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They play well together too!Looks great next to the morning glory sparkle
I have been using tech 21 gear for years started with a bass driver I bought off Craigslist for 80 bucks I didn't even know these things existed. I've used so many different things over the years and no matter what I use I always end up coming back to my sansamps. It's funny because I've had all kinds of different versions whether it's the fly rig or some of the newer stuff but I end up always going back to the simple basic versions. I'm waiting on the new Elite, can't wait to play with that.
Nice rig! I really wish the VT Bass 500 was still in production (I understand why it’s not) and kinda mad at myself for not snagging one when I had the chance.
So I’m a long time user of a v1 BDDI, and I love it.
I also have a v1 VT Deluxe and a v1 Flyrig.
I have the opportunity to get an RBI for a decent price.
I don’t really use rack gear but I was thinking that a mid control with the original Sansamp tone might be nice to have.
Is this just GAS?
Would it be better just to get a newer model BDDI?
I feel like I already have some of this covered with the flyrig and the VT deluxe but inquiring minds want to know.
I also have a v1 VT Deluxe and a v1 Flyrig.
I have the opportunity to get an RBI for a decent price.
I don’t really use rack gear but I was thinking that a mid control with the original Sansamp tone might be nice to have.
Is this just GAS?
Would it be better just to get a newer model BDDI?
I feel like I already have some of this covered with the flyrig and the VT deluxe but inquiring minds want to know.
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Hey there. Ive tried the RBI many times. Its a great pre but imo and experience, they do not sound the same as a bddi. I read on a previous post from tech 21 confirming what I always thought. "Based on".go with the v2, I have several as well as v1s
I'd like to know where the HPF is set on the VTDI as well. It seems terribly high. It's way thinner sounding than plugging directly into my board with the HPF set to 60hz.
If I was doing it again (I have a v2 BDDI), I'd get the Dug Pinnick version with the compressor included.
this is the curve i got comparing blend 100% and everything else noon, no bite or cabsim, to the direct signal (not the bypass sound i have to say).
seems just like slightly tilted towards highs in general with that slight bend at around 40hz. this could be a hpf, but its certainly not responsible for what you (and myself) are hearing when comparing it to the direct sound. there is a thread about the vtbass DI with lots of measurements that have way more accuracy than mine. i don't remember if there was more than the two i found just now but maybe this is helpful...
this is about the non di version i believe, but it's a great thread and might be of interest to some...
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Hello there. I’ve been playing about ten years with Delixe version and then switched to old bass attack because it was cheaper. Then I was playing with digital amp modelers and I wasn’t happy because of tweaks and connectivity which was available with Sansamp. I can’t wait for a new elite version and got a Para driver which now sits in my board. I’ve tried it live and it suits my Thunderbird well. I see many people like mid tweaking but for me main thing is a rumble filter. It gives me massive lows which I didn’t like at first, but soon enough I’ve found that guitar players like when my instrument is boomy and fits sub territory.
the rumble filter actually cuts a lot of lows when engaged (pressed in). is it possible that you mixed that up?
Oops. I meant that this filter is a main difference. When I turned unit on I thought that there’s too much low end and engaged rumble filter, did low boost and then thought that’s like a Bass Driver but I should try something different, so I’ve turned it off and I have massive low end.
if the voicing is too extreme for you (what i completely understand) you should try to just engage the air filter. in contrast to what the manual says, it actually works close to a "voicing off" switch, because it almost neutralizes the big midscoop and bassboost.
This is what the paradriver looks like with blend control fully clockwise:
and this is what it looks like with blend fully clockwise but with engaged "Air" (you can ignore the stuff above 7khz, i suspect this is just a glitch in my measurement):
you can hear what it sounds like in my video at 13:45:
i hope this helps
PS: no wonder the rumblefilter makes a huge difference. this is what it looked like in my comparision:
This is what the paradriver looks like with blend control fully clockwise:
and this is what it looks like with blend fully clockwise but with engaged "Air" (you can ignore the stuff above 7khz, i suspect this is just a glitch in my measurement):
you can hear what it sounds like in my video at 13:45:
i hope this helps
PS: no wonder the rumblefilter makes a huge difference. this is what it looked like in my comparision:
Thank you. I'll mess with air switch more.
The last pic shows like deep cut in 50 hz, interesting. I'm lacking some presence switch which was avaliable with Bass Driver, but not so much. And of course why should I use para driver like a bass driver if it's a different device?
I see Para Driver as an ultimate device which is very useful in studio. I've tried it with synths, drums. Got a nice results to drive instruments in parallel.
After years of Bass Driver I thought that I don't need those massive subs and it was fine. Few days ago I've used it in live situation (turned off filter, did some mid notch) and sent all to FOH. My bass is an Epiphone Thunderbird which is a dark horse so I add some highs to give it some presence in mix and soundguy said that everything is good but I should just turn down highs. Wow.
Para Driver's curve reminds me of mixed DI for lows + amp presence and some LP filter.
The last pic shows like deep cut in 50 hz, interesting. I'm lacking some presence switch which was avaliable with Bass Driver, but not so much. And of course why should I use para driver like a bass driver if it's a different device?
I see Para Driver as an ultimate device which is very useful in studio. I've tried it with synths, drums. Got a nice results to drive instruments in parallel.
After years of Bass Driver I thought that I don't need those massive subs and it was fine. Few days ago I've used it in live situation (turned off filter, did some mid notch) and sent all to FOH. My bass is an Epiphone Thunderbird which is a dark horse so I add some highs to give it some presence in mix and soundguy said that everything is good but I should just turn down highs. Wow.
Para Driver's curve reminds me of mixed DI for lows + amp presence and some LP filter.
when you don't need the mid knob otherwise, you could set it all the way up to 3khz and by boosting to taste use it as a kind of presence control in this way. especially when "air" is engaged you might not need the mid knob to compensate the midscoop (that's at least what i used the mid knob for most of the time in the para driver...)
thank you. So in all terms if you need tweaking Para Driver is a winner, right? I can’t wait for a new Elite bass driver but it seems that I could stop with Para Driver.
