The problem with "blue laws" such as this one, are that they are made by those who are relativly unaffected by it, and couldn't care less about who it does affect. I will never figure out why alcohol and cigarettes are legal, but not marijuana, not even more medicine. But, back on track, we are one of the only countries (possibly the only) with a high drinking limit (21), and a low driving limit (16). Strange. My history teacher told us that the age 18 age was changed because of MADD in the late 1970s. Something about MADD offering money to any state that changed it. Very persuasive thing, money...
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Teenage drinking
- Thread starter Stubb
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I think that the age of 18 here in the UK is a good age for allowing legal drinking. 21 over there in the states does seem a little high I guess, but on the other hand I guess you guys feel 18 is pretty young, so its just what we're used to really!
Me and my family take our yearly holiday to either Florida, or California (and surrounding states) and I always wish I was 21
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Andy
Me and my family take our yearly holiday to either Florida, or California (and surrounding states) and I always wish I was 21
.Andy
The funny thing about the law is: Most teens that drink rarely face reprecussions. It kinda depends on the area, but I live in a small suburb, and being way out here, you can kinda get away with anything. But my cousins in the city complain that they can never have a party, because there are cops always out driving around, and they find out what's going on. And, most college kids that are under-age can easily get alcohol, or they can take a trip down to mexico, where the laws (if any) are rarely enforced. It's a weird situation, but it doesn't look like a law that is going to be changed.
yeah.. down here in salem oregon at my highschool, drinking is somewhat common, but not among the popular kids. It is something that isnt that much of a problem, and all of the kids i hang out with wouldnt think of touching their car-keys after having a drink. The real problem is the over the top consumption of weed, dramamine, and crystal meth.
I know kids who smoke weed who think that ciggarettes, alcohol, and all other drugs are horrible. Wouldnt ever touch them.
I also know kids who come to school all strung out, paranoid, sweating.... it is pretty bad.
well... that was a little off subject, but oh well.
Slick
I know kids who smoke weed who think that ciggarettes, alcohol, and all other drugs are horrible. Wouldnt ever touch them.
I also know kids who come to school all strung out, paranoid, sweating.... it is pretty bad.
well... that was a little off subject, but oh well.
Slick
Wrong Robot said:
You've obviously never had a good vintage Dom, Moet or Veuve Cliquot then....it just dances on your tongue....
DD
DirtDog said:
bah
I had a really nice bottle of champagne with family over some holiday, it was gross, and it was like, fancy+++ I don't know jack about champagne, but if what I had(which was supposed to have been some of the best) is a representation of champagne, then I'll pass.
Although, that doesn't mean I won't try it again in the future, maybe when my taste buds have 'matured' some more.
and actually, the mouth feel was great, but I just couldn't get over the taste.
Johnny BoomBoom said:
Salon - Blanc de Blancs.
And I'm up for making the drinking age in this country 25.
COMMUNIST!jazzbo said:
J/K (obviously
)But seriously all I see that doing is making those 21-25 year olds that drink, lawbreakers.
I doubt you'll see them stop.
And what about those ridiculous 21 birthday rituals where they pound back 21 shots one after another? You want them to pound back 25?! (Hopefully they arent that stupid.)
Peace
Nick
Nick man said:COMMUNIST!
J/K (obviously
But seriously all I see that doing is making those 21-25 year olds that drink, lawbreakers.
I doubt you'll see them stop.
And what about those ridiculous 21 birthday rituals where they pound back 21 shots one after another? You want them to pound back 25?! (Hopefully they arent that stupid.)
Peace
Nick
In my opinion, it has less to do with the drinking age than alcohol education. I would say that 99.99% of teenagers drink simply to get buzzed or drunk. In many countries alcohol, particularly wine, is introduced at a young age, as part of a meal, an experience. When alcohol is appreciated for itself, it's tastes and culture, instead of watching our adults guzzle cheap beer or whiskey, restraint increases. Children are drinking alcohol to rebel and party, when you take the rebellion part out of the equation, the party aspect becomes more disciplined. We, as a society, preach the evils of alcohol, but set no positive example. Only 10% of the US population regularly drinks wine, yet we produce some of the best in the world.
Instead of commercials for really crappy beer, if family's introduce finer alcohols, casually and with restraint, and enforce responsible drinking throughout their children's childhood, then the glamour is gone, and perhaps responsible drinking habits will be learned.
But jazzbo, there's also the Forbidden Fruit phenomenon...
I agree, (e.g. parents have to) practice what they preach. But fact is that teens always have a predilection for stuff they're not supposed to do.
I agree, (e.g. parents have to) practice what they preach. But fact is that teens always have a predilection for stuff they're not supposed to do.
JMX said:
I like what Jazzbo said. Being in Germany and correct me if I'm wrong but you can drink and buy alcohol anytime almost anywhere. In Euorope it's common like Jazzbo said to drink at a younger age etc. Americans get wasted more often becuase it's the forbidden fruit, rebellion, at an early age. A kid starts boozing at 13 years old and doing it not with his/her family it's easier for a younger unmonitored person to become an addict. Most addicts start abusing substances early in thier lives. Not saying Germans don't drink, in fact a German buddy of mine could drink more tahn anyone I've seen, I will mispell this stuff but he had the best liquers I ever had. Mullentrophen, Figling, some drink you knock on the table Klimen Klopher something like that....oh sorry back on the subject but I think culture has a lot to do with it.
While in the subject of teen substance abuse...
I came home from a friends house around 9:40, and i noticed that my front windows were broken out in the front door. I ran to my neighbors house, and called the police. They brought a dog, and searched my whole house, and lo and behold.... My friend was passed out in my garage. The police finally got him to come to, and all he could say was "dude, im trippin" "I hate you.... I love you.... Im trippin love.."
well.... i now know exactley what i am not gonna do...
slicks
I came home from a friends house around 9:40, and i noticed that my front windows were broken out in the front door. I ran to my neighbors house, and called the police. They brought a dog, and searched my whole house, and lo and behold.... My friend was passed out in my garage. The police finally got him to come to, and all he could say was "dude, im trippin" "I hate you.... I love you.... Im trippin love.."
well.... i now know exactley what i am not gonna do...
slicks
Wrong Robot said:
"Good stuff" in almost any category requires experience to appreciate, wouldn't you agree?
