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tell me about Super Ferrite pickups...need info...
- Thread starter raul
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Super Ferrite in 6 string EMG45 will be available soon. Just ordered 100 covers. Covers should be in stock in a few weeks. Other designs available in these covers also.
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I asked him about putting the SFs in EMG45 (4.5x1.5" covers) at which point he tracked down a sources for covers. What is your comment supposed to mean?
To anyone interested in this Super Ferrite P Bass
I will sell the pickup for $110 shipped. If no one is interested in a couple of days this set will go up on eBay. Feel free to DM me with any questions. Thanks.
This ready to ship set of 916 SFP are now up on eBay.
Item #
235139111642
There are other pickups listed on the eBay if you would like to take a look at ready to ship guitar and bass options.
Item #
235139111642
There are other pickups listed on the eBay if you would like to take a look at ready to ship guitar and bass options.
An update. My friend and fellow TalkBass'er @GarrettCampbell just finished recording the clips of the 916 Super Ferrite prototype with pole pieces that @Matt Kustom made earlier this year. We plan on A/B'ing it against the stock, 1987 Peavey Super Ferrites that were in my bass, then the in-line split coil prototypes that Matt put into my original Peavey SF covers...and finally, the 916 Neodymium prototype for the SF route. Will post clips and pics soon. Thanks!
You are killing me @Matt Kustom. I was just looking at my EB-0 body this morning and thinking how much I want one of those Neo humbuckers at the neck and route toward the bridge for, potentially, a split, inline Neo SF style pickup for a super EB-3 on crack. You are not helping...
Also @Matt Kustom, considering Peavey T40 pickups are pretty sought after, have a similar form factor and are basically two SF coils (especially the bladed versions)...might be about that time to think about a T40 design. I think we posted something earlier in this thread about the T40s...
Not much online in the way of specs. No coil reads , magnet info. Looks like a Ceramic humbucker with a XL magnet and copper shielding. This is just a guess by looking at pickups for sale. The New options from peavey store on eBay look worse than the original. The new ones for $25 have a brass Baseplate. Brass is no bueno. Does anyone have a sacrificial pickup? Coil reads ? Magnet info? I can take factory apart and send back after getting info as long as the pickup is not potted in something like the SF
Hi @Matt Kustom, from our friend @kodiakblair, here's 8 pages worth of pics and info about the T40s (actually the guitar version, the T60, but they are super similar):
Blade Style Pickup - Ceramic Magnet Orientation - Music Electronics Forum
Few pictures in this one.
Peavey T-60 Super Ferrite specifications - Music Electronics Forum
(the links bring up a security risk when I follow them but I override and the info I want is on those pages)
Bobbins and blades look pretty similar to what you saw when you bored out the SF single coil. It is of note that there are two versions of the T40 (oh god @kodiakblair and @bigtone23 and/or anyone else knowledgeable from the Peavey forum, please correct me where I go astray), the late 70s version with the ceramic mags as the blades and an early 80s version with steel blades like the single coil SFs but with a ceramic mag between both blades.
I have some '78 toasters with no blade showing (ceramic mags as blades) that I'm not willing to have blown up (those are from my birthyear) and one early 80s with steel blades that I may be willing to have you blow up if you know you will get orders out of it...
Nope.
Hazy memory but I seem to recall 'toasters' (late 70's) used ceramic mags for the poles with a steel spacer. Thinking got flipped for blades, steel poles/ceramic spacer.
Mr Lowe, the fella who designed the T-40/60 pickups, said 3750 turns of #42 for the toaster coils; 2.8k each.
Blades must have got slightly more, they average coils of 5.3k.
Thank you so much for the clarification and sharing your knowledge @kodiakblair! It is greatly appreciated!
I’ve been interested in building a lighter more ergonomic tribute to the T40, probably with a P bass body. It would be cool to find some authentic pickups for it. I know Stonewall makes some that fit the T40 but he says they sound a little different. I suppose I don’t mind different, especially because the wiring and pickup locations really make the different in all the tones a T40 can do.
Also, to the weight point @J Posega, the T40 pickups (Toaster and bladed toaster) are both heavy AF as well and add significantly to the weight of the T series basses. Seeing @Matt Kustom's un-mudbucker Neo with the lightweight covers made me think there may be a possibility of a more modern and lightweight T40 replacement pup with those light black 916 covers...wishful thinking but I'm willing to sacrifice my bladed Toaster in the name of science if you folks are wanting these...
Folk swear blind toasters and blades sound different so you'll be in good company
One tip. Use a dual/push-pull pot for the coil tap. Sacrificing full tonal range for coil tap was always a dumb idea.
I'm guessing there's enough info out there to make some pretty close copies without needing to destroy a pair of legit pickups.
From the T40 Infosheet thread here on TB:
And Chip Todd himself talking about winding the pickups on the defunct forum:
Now, I don't know anything about building pickups, but I imagine that all one would need beyond this info is to measure the resistant of each coil.
On the talk of T40 construction, everything about them was chonky. Heavy, fat bodies, huge high mass bridge, hefty pickups, solid metal knobs, weighty tuners. My goal with wanting to build a tribute of sorts is to be able to achieve a similar number of tones with one bass, while trimming the fat.
I've looked at ash P bass and G4 bodies from Warmoth, and their showcase lists every body's exact weight. I'd have to route it myself for the T40 pickup locations, but that's not going to be too hard. Paired with a roasted maple neck, some Hipshot tuners, a high mass bridge, and an alternate wiring scheme to be able to access humbucker and single coil modes with full tone control, I think it would end up a super versatile bass. I think it could be build with almost any splittable humbuckers, but it would be super cool to have pickups that look like the originals.
Is there a preference for either one? Ceramic in coil or Blades? Ceramic in coil with steel spacer is a bit of a odd ball if that's the build. Most ceramic in coil (lane poor , EMG DC ) are just coils with ceramic magnets.. Low wind coils with steel blades and what I'm guessing is a large ceramic magnet is no problem. For the ceramic in coil I'm guessing it is two guitar humbucker size ceramic magnets in coil. If anyone can give me the outside dimensions of the pickup I can guestimate a bit better. The ceramic in coil with steel spacer seems a bit unnecessary. Maybe that's what they switched.
