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Testing the BNA Audio Sealed Neo 1822 Prototype - Insanely long-winded

Thank JGR! He really brought the final design to the table. I just knew what I wanted and had suspicions as to how to get there :)

You're not too far off comparing a good ported 15" based design to this 18" based sealed design. I am fortunate enough that I was able to compare the 1822 to a ported Faital 15PR400...my favorite full range 15" driver to date. We played with a lot of concepts before committing to what we have and we feel very good about what we have :)

I am actually running a Ported Faital Pro 15PR400 now. How would you compare the two in tone and overall output?
 
I am actually running a Ported Faital Pro 15PR400 now. How would you compare the two in tone and overall output?

The tone will be 'familiar' in some ways. The 1822 sounds thicker and punchier. With the two soft dome mid drivers, you'll get more extension in the upper mids/highs. Off axis dispersion should be improved as well.

My favorite thing about a good sealed cab becomes apparent at higher volume. As volume increases, the woofer and ports interact more and note definition starts to blur. A good sealed design sounds the same as the volume goes up.

Hope that helps!
 
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Tom, it's become my go-to. Mark was kind enough to allow me to hang on to it until he builds me one.

Looking forward to leaning on it a bit in March and April with some moderate volume outdoor dates. I'll try it with and without FoH.

I hope it's been taking its vitimins.
 
Dukeorock, have you tried a pair?

I have tried a pair. I also have a proto 218 we've been fooling around with. It's scary, in a good way :) Most of the bands I work with would freak out if I brought two to a gig, so I mostly reserve that for outdoors gigs.
 
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If 1 will out perform a 15pr400 (ported), that would cover most small-midsize gigs IMO. Excited to see things progress!

The 15pr400 is my favorite speaker.

I have a 'reasonable' volume outdoor gig a week from this Saturday. I'll light the 1822 up and see how she sounds pushed. If anything has a chance of putting the beat-down on the above, it should be this.
 
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If 1 will out perform a 15pr400 (ported), that would cover most small-midsize gigs IMO...

I've a/b'd the 1822 against a Greenboy Dually (two 15pr400, ported). Obviously the Dually is gonna go louder. I love the 15pr400. Great speakers! The 18's we're using sound more similar than different. The main tonal difference if we were to compare one 15pr400 with our 18 is;

The 18 is going to sound a little thicker and punchier. It's just a meatier sounding speaker. It also has a higher power rating.

The 15pr400 sounds a bit more airy up top (if no mid drivers are being used). My personal target was to land somewhere between a greenboy Bassic15 and a Fearless F115 (which I've also a/b'd the 1822 against) as far as tone is concerned. I think we hit the sweet spot, personally. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the F115 for upright and the Bassic15 for electric, but we were going for something that worked more to my taste for doubling on a single cab.
 
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I promised that I would circle back around and comment the next time I did an outdoor event at the same place I ran the F115.

Since I'm a black and white, no nonsense kind of guy, let me update the relationship status...........

"The current holder of the cabinet (me) has now become the owner of said cabinet after begging the builder for months. Both cash and gear changed hands. Apparently the builder got tired of asking for his beloved prototype to be returned and recognized that if you build something great, you shouldn't ever lend it out to bass playing friends as the likelihood of it being returned is slim to none. Had the designer/builder built a crappy cab, it would have been returned promptly after the first gig.

The current holder of the cabinet has taught the builder a life lesson. Either build crappy gear to let people test or build good stuff and never, ever lend it out. You're welcome, Mark!

Further, at no point in time has the builder asked me to write, promote, or otherwise hawk his gear. I do so because I love the cab and it's interesting to talk about as its not a normal driver size choice for most musicians."

Saturday I was back at our hop to it event. It's an outdoor event for our community. Typically about 2000 people show up. But Saturday was nuts with over 4000 in attendance.

The band plays at cocktail party volume for an outdoor event. Meaning that if you stand anywhere near the mains your ears are going to ring for days. But you can move 75 yards away and have a relatively normal conversation. No, we did not play at 120dB at 50 yards.

Because of the attendance alone, I did have to grab some FoH. But since we weren't running IEMS the band agreed to flap pants on stage.

Short of an outdoor venue on a massive stage without FoH, this event solidified the 1822 as my primary cabinet for everything, excluding the above.

I used my normal settings on the Streamie to get what I was looking for. Tonally, it was exactly what I was looking for.

Comparing to the F115, the best way I can describe it is that the 1822 was meatier/thicker. And it should be with an 18. In addition, I found the tone slightly softer at the edges / on the highs. It's not syrupy or overly thick. I had plenty of edge for both fingers and pick and had zero trouble fight for thump or getting buried in the mix. I heard every single note.

To be clear, until I got this cab, the F115 was my second favorite cab of all time. I am in no way belittling it in any way. It's a fantastic cab.

That said, I play a lot. I want to plug in and go. I don't want to fiddle with EQ, regardless of running the Streamie or the Reiner.

For reasons which I am unable to explain, the 1822 seems to be far more forgiving in terms of EQing (ease of EQing similar to my DuallyT). And I freely admit that this could be due to my EQing ignorance and not anything to do with the cab. I'm a bass player, not an audio engineer. I want incredible bass tone and I dont want to twiddle knobs through the first two sets trying to find it.

I feel like I have nothing to whine about in terms of tone. Three fantastic basses which cover me. A big boy rig and an all other rig, and all parts are interchangeable!

Im a very happy guy.
 
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View attachment 832239 View attachment 832240 I promised that I would circle back around and comment the next time I did an outdoor event at the same place I ran the F115.

Since I'm a black and white, no nonsense kind of guy, let me update the relationship status...........

"The current holder of the cabinet (me) has now become the owner of said cabinet after begging the builder for months. Both cash and gear changed hands. Apparently the builder got tired of asking for his beloved prototype to be returned and recognized that if you build something great, you shouldn't ever lend it out to bass playing friends as the likelihood of it being returned is slim to none. Had the designer/builder built a crappy cab, it would have been returned promptly after the first gig.

The current holder of the cabinet has taught the builder a life lesson. Either build crappy gear to let people test or build good stuff and never, ever lend it out. You're welcome, Mark!

Further, at no point in time has the builder asked me to write, promote, or otherwise hawk his gear. I do so because I love the cab and it's interesting to talk about as its not a normal driver size choice for most musicians."

Saturday I was back at our hop to it event. It's an outdoor event for our community. Typically about 2000 people show up. But Saturday was nuts with over 4000 in attendance.

The band plays at cocktail party volume for an outdoor event. Meaning that if you stand anywhere near the mains your ears are going to ring for days. But you can move 75 yards away and have a relatively normal conversation. No, we did not play at 120dB at 50 yards.

Because of the attendance alone, I did have to grab some FoH. But since we weren't running IEMS the band agreed to flap pants on stage.

Short of an outdoor venue on a massive stage without FoH, this event solidified the 1822 as my primary cabinet for everything, excluding the above.

I used my normal settings on the Streamie to get what I was looking for. Tonally, it was exactly what I was looking for.

Comparing to the F115, the best way I can describe it is that the 1822 was meatier/thicker. And it should be with an 18. In addition, I found the tone slightly softer at the edges / on the highs. It's not syrupy or overly thick. I had plenty of edge for both fingers and pick and had zero trouble fight for thump or getting buried in the mix. I heard every single note.

To be clear, until I got this cab, the F115 was my second favorite cab of all time. I am in no way belittling it in any way. It's a fantastic cab.

That said, I play a lot. I want to plug in and go. I don't want to fiddle with EQ, regardless of running the Streamie or the Reiner.

For reasons which I am unable to explain, the 1822 seems to be far more forgiving in terms of EQing (ease of EQing similar to my DuallyT). And I freely admit that this could be due to my EQing ignorance and not anything to do with the cab. I'm a bass player, not an audio engineer. I want incredible bass tone and I dont want to twiddle knobs through the first two sets trying to find it.

I feel like I have nothing to whine about in terms of tone. Three fantastic basses which cover me. A big boy rig and an all other rig, and all parts are interchangeable!

Im a very happy guy.

I'm so glad it worked out that well for you, John! This makes me happy :)
 
Not as happy as me !

Really looking forward to the 218 test. More importantly, I want to see a test of DuallyT or 218 versus twin sealed 1822's. I could just own 2 identical cabinets and be ready for any gig I'll ever play.

I should have a Dually at wired up this week. I LOVE those cabs! I keep my first sealed 218 proto at the shop with a Mesa M9 for testing stuff, so they'll be side by side soon enough. At that level, I don't think there's 'better,' just different. I can think of about 10 cabs at least these days that are truly world class (from a few different designers). Picking the best one for you is really just subtle differences for various goals. Priority words like "punchy," "smooth," "edgy," etc., to suit what a particular player is going for. Then you get into size/weight priorities. Lots of folks with lots of styles. I think that's awesome :)