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The $199 power cable

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#41
pringlw said:
Nope. Who's to say that the reason he uses them is because they sound better? Maybe he uses them because as he's traveling around the world with his $10k basses and his thousands of dollars of other gear - he just doesn't want to worry about a stupid $5 power cable. So he drops a hundred bucks and never worries about them again.
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So these things are more reliable? I've never had a power cord fail but I use $20 hospital grade one and carry another as a spare anyway.
Covered with $180 still in the bank.

Seriously, why would I spend $200 on a cable that only a dog could hear the difference with?
 
#43
michael_atw said:
You're correct. Buying one doesn't make someone inherently dumb or gullible.

What DOES make someone dumb or gullible is being presented with the busload of research in a forum like this and disregarding it. I'm sure there are more than a few of those types around.
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Truth be told , even the most intelligent can be gulled by a clever con-man. It happens evey day.
 
#48
fourstringburn said:
I been using these for years! They really seem to help. I tried everything thing on the market and lost hope and finally gave up. Then one day while shopping at a Music store, a sales rep suggested that I try these and lo and behold, I finally found the answer to all my problems. Wow I couldn't believe it! After all this time of searching! I Highly recommend these to anyone who is experiencing the problems I've had. Best part is, At a reasonably inexpensive price, How could you go wrong??? Try one today and you will be glad you did and you"ll surely thank me for it! :bassist:
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Ah. You must be Robin :D

Rage1331 said:
Is this an attempt at humour or something?
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Obviously :p
 
#49
fourstringburn said:
I been using these for years! They really seem to help. I tried everything thing on the market and lost hope and finally gave up. Then one day while shopping at a Music store, a sales rep suggested that I try these and lo and behold, I finally found the answer to all my problems. Wow I couldn't believe it! After all this time of searching! I Highly recommend these to anyone who is experiencing the problems I've had. Best part is, At a reasonably inexpensive price, How could you go wrong??? Try one today and you will be glad you did and you"ll surely thank me for it! :bassist:
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Really???????? This reads just like the marketing for these, all kinds of vague references, promises and no specifics.

"They really seem to help"............help with what?
"I tried everything on the market"..........how many power cables are on the market exactly?
"I found the answer to all my problems"..........What problems, and how did this solve them?
"At a reasonable inexpensive price"..............?????????

I hope this was a weak attempt at toungue-in-cheek humor.
If not, I'd like to sell you some very reasonably priced Star Registry, official certificate and all, just $399.99 per Star, PM for more info!!!!!!!!!!
 
#50
I have a Monster Powerline 200 that I use for my GK1001RB. I didn't get it becuase I thought it would sound better. I just realized that I was running a 700 watt amp and that I didn't want to have an issue with a cheap/defective powercord that would cause damage to the amp or any type of hazard. I think that spending $50 on a quality brand power cable (and taking care of the cable) is probably overkill, but it makes me feel secure.

To someone who is spending tens of thousands on super high end gear, I imagine the appeal of this $200 cable is similar.
 
#51
fourstringburn said:
I been using these for years! They really seem to help. I tried everything thing on the market and lost hope and finally gave up. Then one day while shopping at a Music store, a sales rep suggested that I try these and lo and behold, I finally found the answer to all my problems. Wow I couldn't believe it! After all this time of searching! I Highly recommend these to anyone who is experiencing the problems I've had. Best part is, At a reasonably inexpensive price, How could you go wrong??? Try one today and you will be glad you did and you"ll surely thank me for it! :bassist:
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Thank you!! A power cord was exactly what I was missing. No more playing through the PA for me!!! ;)
 
#52
3506string said:
... the power of suggestion, which is extremely potent when it comes to our auditory senses.

If you ever get some spare time, it is useful to find out how our minds process auditory stimuli. Also look up the Mcgurk effect.

Many times when it comes to distinguishing minute differences between similar audio samples or sources, the actual suggestion of difference can be more convincing than any actual difference.
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+10^6. You're absolutely correct.

And a bonus points for mentioning McGurk. That one always freaks out my students when I teach psychoacoustics. :)

The whole "miracle cable" scam seems to be like some sort of zombie that comes back from the dead every few years.


"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool."
- Richard Feynman


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#54
I ended up getting two of these for free (long story) and they're nice, I guess. The funny thing with Victor Wooten being the artist behind the new cable is that you can't hardly hear the difference at all with bass.

We tested it a bunch with an Orange Tiny Terror, and we could hear a SLIGHT difference. Was it very noticeable? No. Were we standing in awe at the greater tone we achieved? No. A slight increase on the low end, and a nice mid. But it's relative at best, as the best we got was a shoulder shrug, and an "Um, I THINK I can hear a difference" from some people. I suppose there are audiophiles out there who would jump on those slight differences, but it's hard to think of 'normal' working musicians spending that kind of money on a power cable. Maybe in a studio, where every last little bit of tonality it worth spending tons of money on?

That aside, let's assume that these idiosyncrasies are noticeable to everyone. One thing they don't mention on the site is that these are extremely annoying! The cable is so thick that it's very annoying to wrap, you cannot coil it to a usable radius, and it won't fit in my guitar case. I have to carry a separate bag just for this cable (which is included with each cable). It's also so thick and heavy, that it doesn't conform to any other shape very well. So when you plug it in, if you need it to turn at any angle, it will strain against the connection points at each end trying to retain it's shape. Meaning that the IEC end wants to wiggle loose from the rear of my SVT. Also - it's only 6' long! An SVT on top of my 810 in a road case is too tall for it to reach from stage drop to my SVT's IEC inlet. Let alone if you have a stage drop you need to share with anyone, and can't keep dangling behind your cabinet all night, shaking around and potentially coming loose. If you're using a rack head, then maybe it would be different. But then, wouldn't this cable being going into a power strip that then gets plugged into a stage drop? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose?

All in all, I lost an SVT's power cable once between shows. I grabbed the power cable from a PC and used that. My SVT did sketch out and sound noticeably bad. However, it doesn't take $200 to remedy that. I bought this 15' power cable ([Invalid or Expired Link Removed]), and it sounds great! I actually run two of these $18 cables; one to my head and one to my PedalTrain. Easy to coil, plenty of length to get to any power source, and they sound great.
 
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metro_area said:
I ended up getting two of these for free (long story) and they're nice, I guess. The funny thing with Victor Wooten being the artist behind the new cable is that you can't hardly hear the difference at all with bass....
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Here's a question.
Knowing what you know, if it came to you wanting to sell one for a good used market price, could you do it without disclosing all you know?

ESP must know all this.
 
#59
Obviously you guys have never tried these cables OR snake oil, because my tone is epic and my little-fuzz is HUGE!!! Now my bass playing reels the ladies in, and the snake oil gives me the size and endurance to get the job done!

Wait, snake oil isnt supposed to do that?

I have to add, HDMI and speaker cables are my favorite sales pitch thus far. Working at Circuit City gave us the time and opportunity to do our OWN comparison tests, and the rule of thumb after that was essentially "If the customer is a douchebag, sell them Monster cables."
 
#60
I had experienced the "thought something was working when it wasn't" before in the studio.

Engineer had me make changes to my active bass that we BOTH "HEARD" while my active preamp was OFF, no possible change could be heard.

We both laugh so hard we had to take a pee break.

"Could you turn up the bass? Yeah, that's it! Now a little mid" :D :eyebrow:
 
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