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Edit: I'm not a linesman, but wasn't Malkin offside when he scored the game winner?
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The 2008 Stanley Cup Playoff Thread
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Blah.
Edit: I'm not a linesman, but wasn't Malkin offside when he scored the game winner?
I wanted to, but got busy doing other things.
One down, three to go with the Flyers. The Pen's are looking better as the plaoyffs move along. I don't think Philly will be able to push us around like they hoped.
-Mike
OK, I saw the Philly/Pitts highlights yesterday morning.
Philly cannot afford to give up soft goals...IMO, the last 3 goals by the Pens fall into my "Mr. Softee" category.
Beautiful backhand on the 1st Pens' goal.
I guess Philly is following the script...lose Game 1 & proceed.
Philly cannot afford to give up soft goals...IMO, the last 3 goals by the Pens fall into my "Mr. Softee" category.
Beautiful backhand on the 1st Pens' goal.
I guess Philly is following the script...lose Game 1 & proceed.
Cept that his glove covered up any evidence that it went over the line.
Sucks about Coburn. I hope he can make it for game 3. Hatch had to play almost a half a game. That has got to be tiring.
Let's Go FLYERS
There was an angle they showed, you can clearly see white line between puck and goalline.
SID GOT ROBBED!!!!!! Any Flyers fan knows it. But, Hatcher got a ticky tacky penalty on that hooking call on Malkin. We scored nine seconds later, so it evened out.
Philly came out and beat us up all night long. I thought they were much more aggressive and physical, which is what scares me. I think this is the kind of team that can beat us up and take the series. But being up 2-0 right now, and winning despite getting our butts kicked makes me believe the series is ours. I really think the veterans are helping the young kids on our team. The acquisition of Hossa is proving HUGE right now.
I like hockey, but not like some of you guys. I follow hockey only because my hometown has a team. I need some help from someone who really knows hockey....how come a guy doesn't pick up his stick after he drops it? Is that against the rules? I saw a Pens defensemen without a stick pick one up and hand it to a team mate. What was that about? Also...why don't the refs stop play when a broken stick is on the ice? At one point, Malkin broke a stick and the broken stick interfered with a couple Pen's shots but no one stopped play.
-Mike
Philly came out and beat us up all night long. I thought they were much more aggressive and physical, which is what scares me. I think this is the kind of team that can beat us up and take the series. But being up 2-0 right now, and winning despite getting our butts kicked makes me believe the series is ours. I really think the veterans are helping the young kids on our team. The acquisition of Hossa is proving HUGE right now.
I like hockey, but not like some of you guys. I follow hockey only because my hometown has a team. I need some help from someone who really knows hockey....how come a guy doesn't pick up his stick after he drops it? Is that against the rules? I saw a Pens defensemen without a stick pick one up and hand it to a team mate. What was that about? Also...why don't the refs stop play when a broken stick is on the ice? At one point, Malkin broke a stick and the broken stick interfered with a couple Pen's shots but no one stopped play.
-Mike
Playing with a broken stick is a penalty. Often, a player will drop a stick, and not want to take a chance on getting called, so it stays on the ice. In the defensive zone, if a defenseman loses his stick, a forward will usually give his up. Referees or linesmen will move/remove the stick when the play moves away from the area the stick is.
OK......that makes sense. So if I see a stick on the ice, and no one is picking it up, it is because it is broken or most likely broken? I'm assuming that if the player were to pick it up, the ref would skate over right away and want to check to see if it is broken, which is why he doesn't chance picking it up? If the player knew for sure it was not broke, then he could pick it up?
-Mike
It takes too much time to bend over and pick up your stick. It also puts you in a vulnerable position taking your eyes off the play when you could make a block with your skate/body. It also leaves you vulnerable to get creamed by an opposing player whilst having your head down.
A player can be handed a stick but it cannot be thrown to him. This action will net you a minor penalty. Unsportsmanlike conduct I believe. The player has to get a new stick under his own power i.e. another players stick being handed to him or physically getting a new stick from the bench. It is a delay of game penalty if you play the puck with a broken stick. Thats why a player will drop it if it breaks.
I've seen linesmen pick up broken sticks behind the play, but it is one the linesmen and ref's jobs to not imped play. That's why you won't see them picking broken sticks up off the ice until a whistle, or the play is onside in the opposing zone. Their stance is if you break your own stick; oh well, play on. If it is broken due to a slash, then a penalty is called on the slasher (slashing duh). Also if the slasher (thats a technical term) breaks his own stick in the process he will get called.
Stick breakage is a bigger issue now with the widespread use of composite sticks. The older all wooden sticks broke less often.
I'm not sure if it is outlined here, but you should really take a look at it if you want a better understanding of the rules of hockey. I think that lack of understanding is what makes it hard for most people to get into hockey. Icing and Offsides especially.
http://www.nhl.com/rules/index.html (click on the PDF file)
I've seen some interesting shenanigans concerning broken sticks. Tonight is no exception with Malkin's stick on the ice.
Usually a forward will give his stick to a defensemen, but different sized players play with different sized sticks. I've also seen a left handed player hand a right handed player his stick which is basically useless except that being a hockey player w/o a stick can prove to be awkward. Most guys will only do that to help with balance and feel more natural on the ice.
I found under rule 10.3 on the PDF in the url I gave you. Just for clarification a goalie is the only one on the Ice allowed to play with a broken stick. A situation I have seen before.
Thank you for all the info, much appreciated. I have a good grasp of the rules of hockey, but the stick on the ice thing never made much sense to me. I always wondered why the player would skate around without picking up his stick.
After all, in football, the minute a player drops the football, every guy on the field is trying to jump on it.
-Mike
Yeah, I knew that one. I think it was on the Ottawa series when Letang grabbed a puck out of the air to drop it on the ground, but the ref interpreted it as him catching and throwing it, so he was penalized. I see guys knock down the puck all the time.
-Mike
Again...maybe it's me-
Crosby's 1st goal ('cause he shoulda had a 2nd goal) was 'soft'.
Biron was not hugging the post...as he should have been, right?
I thought Richards' shorthanded breakaway woulda provided a bigger lift than it did.
Philly's Power Play looks pathetic.
Where was Biere last night? IIRC, I heard his name mentioned ONCE.
How about Tom Glavine being drafted ahead of Brett Hull?
Crosby's 1st goal ('cause he shoulda had a 2nd goal) was 'soft'.
Biron was not hugging the post...as he should have been, right?
I thought Richards' shorthanded breakaway woulda provided a bigger lift than it did.
Philly's Power Play looks pathetic.
Where was Biere last night? IIRC, I heard his name mentioned ONCE.
How about Tom Glavine being drafted ahead of Brett Hull?
Yes and no I couldn't tell if he moved of the post slightly thinking pass (wich it was)then the deflection caught him or if he didn't budge and his position was off.
Absolutely!
Overall though the flyers played a much better game than game one.
Aj
OK, I'm still learning the finer points of hockey. Are you trying to make excuses for losing?
-Mike
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I'm with Don Cherry : "When did they paint that goal line? 1972?"
The replays showed that blurry joke of a goal line was more of a factor in waving off the goal than the glove blockage was. I love it when they miraculously find the camera angle that shows it's a goal 5 minutes later. How many freaking cameras can there be on the net? 2-3-4, hell 7? It's a 10 second shot they need to look at, did they forget the camera that showed it going over the line in the replay booth?
Once again the NHL shows it has a LONG way to go to make replay work.
The replays showed that blurry joke of a goal line was more of a factor in waving off the goal than the glove blockage was. I love it when they miraculously find the camera angle that shows it's a goal 5 minutes later. How many freaking cameras can there be on the net? 2-3-4, hell 7? It's a 10 second shot they need to look at, did they forget the camera that showed it going over the line in the replay booth?
Once again the NHL shows it has a LONG way to go to make replay work.
It doesn't really matter guys. It's just two teams from PA fighting for who will be the sacrificial lamb when the Cup returns to Hockey Town.
it's not perfect, but it's probably the best replay system of any of the major sports.
