The BRX 10.2 is only available as a 4 ohm cabinet. Or, did I misunderstand your question?
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The "210 Cab Recommendation" Light is Lit!
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The BRX 10.2 is only available as a 4 ohm cabinet. Or, did I misunderstand your question?
I use a MB Traveler 102P and dig it. It compliments my 1x15 cab well and does a great job of holding it's own in smaller rooms where the 15 isn't needed. It's light weight, easy to handle and sounds good.
Got a bass playing friend who uses two Acme "B" 2x10 cabs. Those things will peel paint off the walls.
Got a bass playing friend who uses two Acme "B" 2x10 cabs. Those things will peel paint off the walls.
A certain amount of tone is dependent upon cabinet dimensions, just as some of it is dependent on floor-coupling etc. Compare it to a double bass. The electric double bass has virtually no tone of its own, it is dependent upon pickups & electric amplification. But a 3/4 size instrument resonates nicely and can be heard well; it also has most of its frequency response in the mid-bass region so it cuts through a bit. Perfect for a jazz trio. A full orchestral double bass, otoh, is not good for the trio but awesome with an orchestra.
Anyway, for me the 2x10 doesn't do it. It cuts through well enough, but does not provide enough bottom for a pop or rock band. If you are providing sound to a board then you might be OK, but on its own it is not enough. IMO ya gotta be willing to move a good 4x10 and/or 1x15. Fortunately those are getting lighter in weight as time rolls on... and speaking of rolls, don't forget that small collapsible handtrucks can make your job much easier.
Anyway, for me the 2x10 doesn't do it. It cuts through well enough, but does not provide enough bottom for a pop or rock band. If you are providing sound to a board then you might be OK, but on its own it is not enough. IMO ya gotta be willing to move a good 4x10 and/or 1x15. Fortunately those are getting lighter in weight as time rolls on... and speaking of rolls, don't forget that small collapsible handtrucks can make your job much easier.
I'm really happy with my Eden 210XST's. Not the absolute lightest at 59lbs, but REALLY efficient, great low end, and cut through every mix so far. With the TH, it's a one loader for every gig, and often without my cart!
BTW... I probably will be adding a new Aggie 112 to match the TH soon, more because of the number of different gigs and rehearsals I do.
Bob C said:
It is available in an 8 ohm cab. You have to call and special order it direct from carvin. I talked to a rep to confirm this. Was just wondering if it is worth the money to match it or leave it how it is with my avatar 210 8 ohm on top of the 4 ohm 410 carvin.
I have a 4 ohm Epifani Performance 2x10 that I use with a Genz Neo-Pak head... Great cab although it's one of the larger 2x10's I've come across.
Nice old school sound with ceramic drivers.
Nice old school sound with ceramic drivers.
I have an old Epifani t-210 4 ohm cab that I couple with an Aguilar Toneammer 500 and use on almost all of my gigs - with a rock cover band and also with a funk/disco band - Plenty of bottom and loudness - nice small light package.
I have an epifani 2-12 and I have not used it for a year - and I've done outdoor gigs, large weddings, small clubs, medium sized rooms as well, an the ban ploays pretty loud sometimes -
Occasionally the Tonehammer will "clip" (the light comes on), but the cabinet handles it just fine.
I have an epifani 2-12 and I have not used it for a year - and I've done outdoor gigs, large weddings, small clubs, medium sized rooms as well, an the ban ploays pretty loud sometimes -
Occasionally the Tonehammer will "clip" (the light comes on), but the cabinet handles it just fine.
Your current cabs are a good match - the 4ohm 410 will be getting double the amp output and there are twice as many speakers in it as your 8ohm 210.
Each of your six drivers are getting roughly the same level to work with and should be well balanced.
It is not necessarily bad to mix cabs from different manufacturers - if you like the sound then great.
I'm assuming your amp is safe down to a load of 2.67ohms - that's where you're at with your current setup.
+ 2 SVT 210; I have two that I have been using with a Markbass F500 and they really sound terrific. To my ears it's the perfect cab. I also love the fact there is no tweeters in them. Highly recommended.
4 years later, here's a follow up on this thread...
I still have the Epi, I bought two SVT210AV cabs and an MB800 head (now I have the 200, 500 & 800 set) but now four years on I have a new dilemma. I posted a couple of comments in other threads about concerns I have over using the MB800 at 4 ohms with speakers only rated at 200 a piece. I've been VERY careful with stage volume, but I am beginning to move into new genres that will require a little more variation in my sound and make those speakers work a little harder, and I'm getting nervous.
Since I love the form factor of the stacked Ampeg line array (I'm 6'4" and with these stacked I can actually hear myself) I'm toying with swapping out the 10's in the Ampegs for a set of Eminence SC-10 16's, this would increase my wattage capability for both speakers from 400 to 600 watts and make me less worried about blowing them out with the MB800 (I have been using the MB500 for sanity sake, but I prefer the FET pre on the MB800.)
Anyway, I find myself in the same pickle as I was four years ago, I need: two 210 cabs stacked, around 800 watt headroom, ultra lightweight (under 35 lbs) and cost effective (and yes, I know the "bassist's equation": light/loud/price - pick two)
I have been preening over a couple of Barefaced Two10s (my silver bullet to this situation) but it would be $1800+ for them and who's got that kind of money!?!
Suggestions welcomed and encouraged!
I still have the Epi, I bought two SVT210AV cabs and an MB800 head (now I have the 200, 500 & 800 set) but now four years on I have a new dilemma. I posted a couple of comments in other threads about concerns I have over using the MB800 at 4 ohms with speakers only rated at 200 a piece. I've been VERY careful with stage volume, but I am beginning to move into new genres that will require a little more variation in my sound and make those speakers work a little harder, and I'm getting nervous.
Since I love the form factor of the stacked Ampeg line array (I'm 6'4" and with these stacked I can actually hear myself) I'm toying with swapping out the 10's in the Ampegs for a set of Eminence SC-10 16's, this would increase my wattage capability for both speakers from 400 to 600 watts and make me less worried about blowing them out with the MB800 (I have been using the MB500 for sanity sake, but I prefer the FET pre on the MB800.)
Anyway, I find myself in the same pickle as I was four years ago, I need: two 210 cabs stacked, around 800 watt headroom, ultra lightweight (under 35 lbs) and cost effective (and yes, I know the "bassist's equation": light/loud/price - pick two)
I have been preening over a couple of Barefaced Two10s (my silver bullet to this situation) but it would be $1800+ for them and who's got that kind of money!?!
Suggestions welcomed and encouraged!
Yeah, it'll probably be hard to find all that in a cost effective solution. I wanted a similar setup so I had Don at LDS build me two vertical 210s. Specs are 16" wide x 26" tall x 16" deep, 8ohm, 450 watts, 45ish lbs. I use these two with a GB Streamliner 900.
I didn't go with the neo speakers because it would've added about $300 extra to the total cost but that would've kept the weight down in the 35lb range.
First of all, @BigEarl, incoming PM.
Secondly, amp headroom isn't a bad thing. Just be careful that you don't drive the speakers too hard. I wouldn't swap speakers unless it's necessary (a blown speaker or you're hearing your drivers being pushed too hard on a regular basis). If it ain't broke (yet).....
My two cents.
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Moreso than brand I'd consider 2-2x10's or 2-2x12's. 1 2x10 is great for a cafe or coffee house, but a decent club gig IMO requires at least 2-2x10's. I know we live in a world now where people just want to hear a little bass, but I still like to be heard and felt. There are many viable options out there. Let your pocket be your guide.
