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The Acoustic Club

#23
Pearly Gator said:
The 150's low fundamentals are not as solid as the 220. I attribute this to the interstage coupling transformer in the power amp. The 220 sounds superior in the lows. The power amp uses direct coupled driver circuitry. So, the 150 seems to have more mids and the 220 is able to dial in many different sounds. The 220 can sound quite modern with careful tweaking of the EQ.

Gary
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I'm not a tech but this makes sense. I am always amazed though at just how musical the 150/140 sound. Bass or guitar... it doens't seem to matter. I dont own a 220 but I have a friend who has one and it a good amp. I've got the 320 and 330 which are simply amazing pieces. They manner in which the two channels interact is very cool and they will in fact make you deaf in .5 seconds they get sooo loud! They dont have the overall sweetness of the 150 stuff but make up for it in flexibility and sheer horror.
 
#24
Mikeyd74 said:
I had an Acoustic 220 back when I was in highschool. It was the first REAL amp that I ever owned. I got it used and it was beat to hell. To this day it was the loudest amp I've ever played through. I ended up getting rid of it cuz it was spitting off parts from the circuit board, yet it still kept working. It was obsecenely loud, I think it was rattling the parts off lol. I remember the huge Acoustic cabinet had a single speaker in it and it was larger then an 18" speaker. I don't remember the actual size of the speaker. Anyone know what I'm talking about? The cabinet was the size of an Ampeg refridgerator cabinet. What a weird amp!
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You remember correctly. It wasn't an 18" speaker... it was more like 80". And it was even bigger than an Ampeg refridgerator too. The Acoustic company used a new technology called " Flash Freeze" in their cooling units and many many resturants would buy these by the dozens. Ampeg had the home market for food refridgeration cornered but Acoustic has always been INDUSTRIAL GRADE. Heck, Dennys, Carls Jr. etc wouldn't exist in the southwest if'n it wern't for the outstanding cooling capacity of the Acoustic Fridge that was needed to "beat the heat". In the 72' catalouge you can see the speaker systems being sold right alongside the refridgeration units. They were always a forward thinking company and even though R&R is supposed to be about the sex and drugs, Acoustic knew that in order to compete, they had to be about the freq's and food.
 
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Since I've seen this thread today I've been thinking a lotabout my old Acoustic 220. I think that amp ruined me. I have never had another amp since then that punches me in the chest like that one did. It's probably the reason that I've never been 100% satisfied with any other amp I've ever played. Although my current riig comes pretty close.
 
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bottomend! said:
You remember correctly. It wasn't an 18" speaker... it was more like 80". And it was even bigger than an Ampeg refridgerator too. The Acoustic company used a new technology called " Flash Freeze" in their cooling units and many many resturants would buy these by the dozens. Ampeg had the home market for food refridgeration cornered but Acoustic has always been INDUSTRIAL GRADE. Heck, Dennys, Carls Jr. etc wouldn't exist in the southwest if'n it wern't for the outstanding cooling capacity of the Acoustic Fridge that was needed to "beat the heat". In the 72' catalouge you can see the speaker systems being sold right alongside the refridgeration units. They were always a forward thinking company and even though R&R is supposed to be about the sex and drugs, Acoustic knew that in order to compete, they had to be about the freq's and food.
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The speaker in that cab had to be at least 23 to 24 inches. It also faced backwards if my memory serves me right.
Thanks for all the extra info too!
 
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Mikeyd74 said:
The speaker in that cab had to be at least 23 to 24 inches. It also faced backwards if my memory serves me right.
Thanks for all the extra info too!
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If memory serves me correctly, the speaker would actually would spin on it's axis. As it gained momentum, the centrifugal force would cause the speaker to GROW in diameter from 23" to 24". So, it's actually both and neither dimensions simultaneously. Acoustic knew their stuff, dude.
 
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Thanks to The Owl

Looks like I'm number 8! Matches my number of basses, collection of over 30 some years. More cosmic balance stuff I guess. Now, it's only a matter of time before they will each have a chance to sing through my New Acoustic Rig (input Split into 2 x B200H heads, 1 to a B410, the other to a B115). I'm like freakin' with anticipation as to how some of them are going to sound. For grin's I threw a Gibson SG (re-issue of the old EB-O I have) at the B200H with B410 and B115 at the local GC the other day. Once again, I was astonished...we are talkin' the infamous "thunder mud" bass here folks and it sounded like heaven, poor guy workin' there had to have me bring the volume down...oh well. But until then I'll hush up and just visit here from time to time to see if anyone else has discovered the New Acoustic Sonic Phenomena...I expect I'll see this place grow quite nicely...:cool:

Enjoy All!

Bassmore
 
#32
Ah...thanks for the reminder to get my 470 head fixed!

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#34
I went to GC yesterday with the intention of messing around and going back home. I saw the Acoustic stack and had to plug it in. I used a passive MIM J bass and the sound was so incredibly good I bought both the Bass and the Acoustic B200H. I am in love with Acoustic; the tone is incredible add me to the list please!

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Dan
 
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Mikeyd74 said:
I stopped at Guitar Center a couple of days ago and messed around with the B200H as well.
WOW!
I thought my next amp would most likely be a Markbass, I think I changed my mind.
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I hadn't even read or looked into Acoustic before going so I had no preconceived notions and that thing just blew me away. I love the tone so much, I can't stop playing it! I'm glad I'm not the only one.


Dan
 
#37
bottomend! said:
You remember correctly. It wasn't an 18" speaker... it was more like 80". And it was even bigger than an Ampeg refridgerator too. The Acoustic company used a new technology called " Flash Freeze" in their cooling units and many many resturants would buy these by the dozens. Ampeg had the home market for food refridgeration cornered but Acoustic has always been INDUSTRIAL GRADE. Heck, Dennys, Carls Jr. etc wouldn't exist in the southwest if'n it wern't for the outstanding cooling capacity of the Acoustic Fridge that was needed to "beat the heat". In the 72' catalouge you can see the speaker systems being sold right alongside the refridgeration units. They were always a forward thinking company and even though R&R is supposed to be about the sex and drugs, Acoustic knew that in order to compete, they had to be about the freq's and food.
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bottomend! said:
If memory serves me correctly, the speaker would actually would spin on it's axis. As it gained momentum, the centrifugal force would cause the speaker to GROW in diameter from 23" to 24". So, it's actually both and neither dimensions simultaneously. Acoustic knew their stuff, dude.
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Am I the only one who doesn't know what the hell is going on here? What are you talking about? I'm trying to understand what you are saying. :confused:
 
#40
Templar,

Sweet lookin' 470! Back in the day (late 70's, early 80's) I had an opportunity to play through a fellow bassists Acoustic at a party. Sadly, I can't remember what model or anything....good party...but I couldn't forget how freakin' awesome it sounded. The thing was so full and loud it was like petting a dragon and took hardly any right hand effort at all. The thing was just eager to take whatever you played and then send out in huge full tonal waves. A world of difference from my Sunn Concert head (even going into 2 x Ampeg B25B cabs) where no matter what I always seems to be having to rake the crap out of my bass with my right hand just to be heard. The Acoustic, however, was like scarey and fun at the same time, hopefully when I get this new Acoustic rig together it will be the same kind of experience. Anyways, looking at your 470, I noticed all the A and B switches on the front. Did (does) it allow you to split the incoming signal into the 2 channels and send them to two different cabs and have independent EQ? Does it have a crossover? Or are those basically "either or" channels? I was curious because I have heard horror stories about Bass Bi-Ampping in general (not Acoustic) where some guys would put high quality crossover gear in the path somehow and although they still had plenty of power, just by doing so, they inadvertantly lost all their mids! My "simple" thought with having two independent heads (B200H's ) going to two different cabs (1 x B410 (highs & upper mids) and 1 x B115 (lows and lower mids) and only sharing the input signal was that I should not have that problem. Is my thinking here correct? Any suggestions on this are welcome.

Thanks again all, :bassist::bassist:

Bassmore
 

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