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The Bar Business is ROUGH

#102
Jools4001 said:
Oh dear. If you lived in the UK you would take anything the Daily Mail says with a very large pinch of salt, it is the newspaper of the small minded, and is always on some hysterical rant about the country going to the dogs; and this is at the best of times.

Then factor into the equation that the article you quote comes from a long time ago, when Tony Blair was Prime Minister - and he left office in 2007. As Prime Minister of a centre left Labour government, Blair was and probably still is, absolutely hated by the Daily Mail and under the editorship of Paul Dacre, this newspaper would foam at the mouth on a daily basis, whipping up ludicrous stories on scant evidence, in order to discredit the law and order record of a government it despised.

If you look at the article, it doesn't even name the source of the information- it is all according to an unnamed survey and an unidentified "International Crime Report" as if the word "International" bestows some credibility; something the Mail gropes for but usually misses.

Edit: Just reread the article and Labour had been in power for 4 years - so that makes it 2003.
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My favourite Daily Mail headline...

"Benefit Scrounging Terrorist Asylum Seekers Ate My Donkey"

Hmmm. I think they are due a Princess Diana headline.

And now we return to our regular scheduled entertainment...
 
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#106
catcauphonic said:
Did the victim not have some connection to another employee there, albeit loosely, in the bartender? Any word on which side his allegiance lies in this unfortunate (& all too common) event??
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You know, I'm definitely not "in," when it comes to this particular crowd, but that is certainly a valid question. If I can come up with an answer, I will definitely post it here.
 
#108
I think OP's original posting is pretty simple - someone in the PD didn't like the victim, so the PD doesn't do enough to assure the DA has a winnable case. Seen it happen before.

I've told this story before, but I used to have a place that I played that was owned by a husband/wife who loved the band. They sold out to some "rougher" people, and every time I went to the manager's office to collect for a gig, he took his pistol out of the drawer and placed it on the desk while he paid me. My dad and brother were cops, so I borrowed my brother's .45 mag for the next time we played there. Same routine - went into the office and out comes the pistol. This time, I pulled out the .45 mag and put it on the desk right next to his. He looks up and says, "What's with the piece?" I said, "Well, I felt bad that I didn't have anything for show-and-tell last time." I never saw his pistol again after that.

A few months later the place closed when the DEA shut it down because the new owners were running drugs in there.
 
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#110
NWB said:
So again, given the significant dangers of playing in bars along with the generally low pay, does it not beg the question of "why even do it"?
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NWB said:
So again, given the significant dangers of playing in bars along with the generally low pay, does it not beg the question of "why even do it"?
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You know, $100.00 a night on the weekend, and the opportunity to entertain a roomful of people, win the hearts and minds and make a few new friends in the process, is more than enough for me. It beats collecting stamps.

But if I had to deal with a criminal element on a regular basis, it would not make sense.

Fortunately, that is not the case for me and my band in the rooms we play. Indeed, over a 30 year cover band career, I can count on one hand the number of rooms I felt unsafe in, and that the band leader or I had to draw the line and scratch them off our list.
 
#113
electracoyote said:
You know, $100.00 a night on the weekend, and the opportunity to entertain a roomful of people, win the hearts and minds and make a few new friends in the process, is more than enough for me. It beats collecting stamps.

But if I had to deal with a criminal element on a regular basis, it would not make sense.

Fortunately, that is not the case for me and my band in the rooms we play. Indeed, over a 30 year cover band career, I can count on one hand the number of rooms I felt unsafe in, and that the band leader or I had to draw the line and scratch them off our list.
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And then there's that other thing:

Fear is not a motivator in my life.
 
#114
electracoyote said:
You know, $100.00 a night on the weekend, and the opportunity to entertain a roomful of people, win the hearts and minds and make a few new friends in the process, is more than enough for me. It beats collecting stamps.

But if I had to deal with a criminal element on a regular basis, it would not make sense.

Fortunately, that is not the case for me and my band in the rooms we play. Indeed, over a 30 year cover band career, I can count on one hand the number of rooms I felt unsafe in, and that the band leader or I had to draw the line and scratch them off our list.
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That's a very good answer. I think it's still a question that we should ask ourselves before playing bars.
 
#117
ok, just read all the links in the op. sounds like a screw job to me. like maybe the bar owner has the kind of connections that can make something like this "just go away".

if that guy was the mayor's son the whole town would be turned upside down by now.
 

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