Is it possible you were really cranking on the P bass with a pick and overloaded the input? I've done that before, the lows will drop right out if you overdrive the input.
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The basic flaw in the p-bass
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Is it possible you were really cranking on the P bass with a pick and overloaded the input? I've done that before, the lows will drop right out if you overdrive the input.
I just sliced off that section with a scroll saw. Being brass, the pickguard took a few minutes to cut, but now I can access my electronics without taking the whole dang pickguard off.
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In the pocket n' thumpy. So woody, so greasy...
Yeah that's brilliant. Makes it alot easier for sure. I'll be doing that to a couple of my P Bass pickguards in the near future!
To my ears, when you roll the tone control back you are just dimming the higher overtones. When you roll it back on you are just putting them back, not taking away the bottom end or shifting the response.
I've played some large venues but no stadiums so I wouldn't know if this happens at stadiums. I use a classic svt rig that is basically set to flat and have never had this issue with my 63 AVRI.
Hi Spidey
better be careful comparing apples
some are more explosive than others...greetings
Wise
Hi Spidey
better be careful comparing apples
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greetings
Wise
Right back atcha'... (the greeting, not the IEF... Improvised Explosive Fruit)
It's not a flaw in any P bass I've played, but I'd say that the sound John Entwistle wanted out of a bass would not be found in a P bass anyway.
You do get a resonant hump of a couple dBs at the roll-off point so perhaps that was sending his amp into distortion so it lacked clarity in the lows, or that bump exaggerated already existing boundary cancellation or some other acoustic interference from using all those cabs.
Hmmm, i own several basses, as i'm sure many of you do. i just received this less than 24 hours ago:
AVRI '64 (sorry, another 'p' pic)
It came with flats. I plugged it into a vintage Acoustic 126 combo (1x15) and heard some of the most convincing bass guitar lows in recent memory. I typically string all my basses (a wide variety of types) with round wound DR's, LaBella's, Dean Markley's etc. It literally never occurred to me to try flats (since the first wave of Rotosounds landed in my world around '70-'71).
I was pleasantly surprised at the richness and tonal color of the factory flats on a p-bass. I conclude that as much as 33% of tone comes from the type of strings employed. Rounds give a p-bass more 'grind' and flats would give a Ric more thump.
Entwhistles P-bass tone in '69 when i saw the Who perform Tommy during its debut tour was more grind-y (round wounds) through his dual Hiwatt stacks, but never lacked bottom. In fact it struck me as glorious tonally. This was in Detroit's Grande Ballroom about a 1-2000 head venue.
I could certainly qualify for the No P-bass club with my 9 or so non P's. It's my love for the 3 P's that ruins me (lol).
I must admit right here in front of all that the bass love of my life was a 66 P.
Cheers and good times to the 'P' free zone.
AVRI '64 (sorry, another 'p' pic)It came with flats. I plugged it into a vintage Acoustic 126 combo (1x15) and heard some of the most convincing bass guitar lows in recent memory. I typically string all my basses (a wide variety of types) with round wound DR's, LaBella's, Dean Markley's etc. It literally never occurred to me to try flats (since the first wave of Rotosounds landed in my world around '70-'71).
I was pleasantly surprised at the richness and tonal color of the factory flats on a p-bass. I conclude that as much as 33% of tone comes from the type of strings employed. Rounds give a p-bass more 'grind' and flats would give a Ric more thump.
Entwhistles P-bass tone in '69 when i saw the Who perform Tommy during its debut tour was more grind-y (round wounds) through his dual Hiwatt stacks, but never lacked bottom. In fact it struck me as glorious tonally. This was in Detroit's Grande Ballroom about a 1-2000 head venue.
I could certainly qualify for the No P-bass club with my 9 or so non P's. It's my love for the 3 P's that ruins me (lol).
I must admit right here in front of all that the bass love of my life was a 66 P.
Cheers and good times to the 'P' free zone.
The biggest problem I have with the P bass, I don't have one.
I always wondered if Entwhistle would not have been more satisfied with a 4-string Baritone guitar than a bass?
What would you guys consider a good “low end” bass (genuinely curious)?
Another thing to note about John Entwistle is that he was using Roto 66’s. Not exactly the go-to-string for achieving low end.
Another thing to note about John Entwistle is that he was using Roto 66’s. Not exactly the go-to-string for achieving low end.
And of course, in the end, what John Entwistle thought is not important. The important thing is what you yourself think.
Didn't know they made basses, but Entwhistle always seemed to have had at least some healthy sideburns if not a full beard, so he probably did play one of these....
