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The Fender Bassman 100T thread

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#401
Tim1 said:
Which is why I think the 610 is such a great cab - it will cover the big stages comfortably and still is easy to shift and doesn't look OTT on a small gig.
OTOH I am tempted to add a 410. Aren't we naughty boys? :D
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Indeed. :)
A 410 and a 610 would be awesome. But... realistically I can't afford a 610, another 410 is enough of a stretch. Plus I love the look of stacked 410's. I'd probably look for excuses to take the 2nd cab even when I didn't need it.
If I could have what I want I'd take my 100T/410 Neo, add a 610 Neo, and a Super Bassman/810 Neo just in case.
 
#402
Tim1 said:
Which is why I think the 610 is such a great cab - it will cover the big stages comfortably and still is easy to shift and doesn't look OTT on a small gig.
OTOH I am tempted to add a 410. Aren't we naughty boys? :D
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I saw a 610 in person today and it was bigger then what I was expecting. Combined with the head it would look a bit big on a small stage. I am contemplating load in with just the handles on top? My 610 came in busted up, so I had to return it. I cancelled the sale and am going to think this through. Thanks UPS!
 
#403
scotch said:
Not a/b directly, no, but I have played through all 3. Total apples/oranges situation! The 2 Aggies are very similar (naturally), built for power and headroom with huge bottom. The Fender 100t is built purposefully with less power so you max out headroom quicker. I like both types, but this is like comparing a Hummer to a VW Bug- both get the job done fine, but are 2 totally different ways to 'bring home the groceries'!

I'm curious what specifically you're looking to contrast?
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Tone. Not looking for a comparison b/w the 750/751.
 
#404
God I sound like such a shrilly fan-boy over this amp, but today pretty much put to bed any concerns I've had over going with a low powered tube amp. I got to play my first good sized gig with FOH support at a big hot rod show this afternoon. And it was in a huge un-airconditioned warehouse-sized garage that was at least 90 degrees inside. The 100T/410 Neo sounded so freaking good and tight. I actually wound up running a little lower than the non-FOH gigs we've played so far, even though this stage was 3 times or more bigger than we've played. At the other gigs I've ended the night with channel and master volumes on 6. For this gig I ran at 5 on channel volume and 6 on master. It performed in the heat with no problem at all. The fan didn't even come on until the 3rd set. Despite what the "watts-is-watts" crowd on this forum says, I've never owned any SS rig of under 250-300 watts that could've handled this gig with the ease the 100T did. I'm questioning if my GK 800RB/dual Harke 410XL rig could've handled it any better, or as well.
 
#405
Good news.
I'm wondering if this amp bench tests at higher than 100w, as many of you are saying it's loud for 100w?
I wonder if it's 130 or so?? I also know there ain't much difference between the 100 & 130w, just interesting as many are saying it's a very powerful sounding amp.
Has anyone compared this too other 100w tube amps- V4BH, older Bassmans, etc
 
#406
Hi Rod, I don't know if it bench tests higher, but I have directly compared it with an old Bassman 100 and it clearly has way more clean headroom. The old model went into tube overdrive way earlier - might have something to do with the tubes of course, but this is consistent with my original impressions based on my memory of the several Bassmans I owned in the seventies. This amp is way more useable.
 
#407
Is the 100t 100 watts RMS? and either way can someone help to understand RMS(Root mean squared) and pros and cons if there is a such thing? I think it means that if its 100watts rms it puts out all of the 100 watts and if its 100watts non rms then it puts out less then 100 most of the time. im i somewhat correct? just ordered my 100t!!
 
#408
RMS is a rating of an amp's average output power prior to a certain amount of distortion. It's probably the most accurate real-world power rating. Some manufacturers use other methods such as peak power ratings, which make their amps appear more powerful than they are. If you're looking at solid state amps, the output power varies with the impedance of the cab, so a manufacturer might rate output power at 2 ohms to make the amp look more powerful. But the majority of cabs are 4 or 8 ohm, so a solid state amp rated 200 watts rms at 2 ohms will be around 100 watts with a 4 ohm cab, and as little as 50 watts with 8 ohms.
Tube amps have the same output power regardless of impedance, but have to be set to match your cab. Not all tube amps can drive all impedances.
When you're comparing amps, be sure it's the same rating - rms, peak or whatever - and the same impedance on ss amps.
 
#411
I have just realised that the 410 neo is a sealed cab while the 610 neo is ported. I had automatically assumed that the 410 was ported like the 610. Hmmm. Really makes me curious about the 410, the 610 is great but I have always liked sealed cabs with tube amps. Even more GAS............
 
#414
Turlu has posted on the "New Fender Bassman" thread that his 410 is sealed which got me thinking, them I read it somewhere else. Could be a little confusion somewhere, as it seems umlikely to me that the 610 and 810 would be ported and the 410 sealed. Still....
 
#418
its held on with industrial velcro most likely and a thin flat head screwdriver can pry it loose carefully....but a good flashlight aimed thru the grill should let you see if there is 2 round ports in the face.
 
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