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The Fender Super Bassman 300 thread

#1,881
I've got a Aguilar DB410 home from the local shop to try with my Super Bassman this week as a possible option for a smaller cab than my 610 Neo. No purchases will be happening if I can't sell some other gear sadly

Can anyone here directly compare the Fender 410 Neo to the Aguilar DB410? The DB410 is rear ported - which I like. I think it helps keep the lows under control with a All Tube head such as the SB300. The DB410 is perfect width for the SB300. First impressions at low vol is that is sounds pretty good. However - The DB410 is quite a bit heavier, and also more expensive than the Fender Bassman Pro 410 Neo.

I'll be setting the DB410, Nv412, and 610 Neo up to compare tomorrow. Should be interesting.
 
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Rocksolid said:
I've got a Aguilar DB410 home from the local shop to try with my Super Bassman this week as a possible option for a smaller cab than my 610 Neo. No purchases will be happening if I can't sell some other gear sadly

Can anyone here directly compare the Fender 410 Neo to the Aguilar DB410? The DB410 is rear ported - which I like. I think it helps keep the lows under control with a All Tube head such as the SB300. The DB410 is perfect width for the SB300. First impressions at low vol is that is sounds pretty good. However - The DB410 is quite a bit heavier, and also more expensive than the Fender Bassman Pro 410 Neo.

I'll be setting the DB410, Nv412, and 610 Neo up to compare tomorrow. Should be interesting.
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How did the cabs compare? I'm pretty sold on getting a neo 410 but still open to other opinions.
 
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I did start a separate thread on this: Aguilar DB410 vs Fender Bassman Pro 410 Neo

Below are my thoughts though:

Had a good 2 hours with the DB410, 610 Neo, and NV412 all set up side by side today.

The DB410 really is a great sounding cab. good mids, and tight bottom end. I had the tweeter control rolled back to 9 - 10 o'clock - about the same position I have the tweeter control on the 610 Neo. Using my Super Bassman the treble on the vintage channel was on 2 for the DB410 and 610 Neo, and about 5 with the NV412.

All 3 sound stellar - but it is hard adjusting to a tweeterless cab in these comparisons. You get used to hearing the tweeter, and you switch to the NV412, and the first minute or so it sounds dull - but that cab has a girth about every note, that fills the room without being really loud.

The DB410 I have at home has 2 castors that won't stay in properly - I had forgotten how much I dislike these style castors on cabs. The advantage to rolling your head in on the cab all goes away when you have to lift it off to remove the castors so it you get that coupling from the cab sitting on the floor. I did try it both ways - and this cab certainly doesn't lack with castors still in.

It is a heavy cab - It's like Thor's Hammer! Not that big, but if you are not the right person it is damn near impossible to lift. A 410 does need to be lifted a heap more than a 610 or 412.


I will also add that I think the DB410 is easier to dial in the relationship between your treble setting, and the tweeter attenuator. I found this difficult early on with the 610 Neo. This maybe due also in part that most of my gigs with the Super Bassman thus far have been with the NV412. The NV412 is quite smooth up top when on the Vintage channel, but kick in the OD channel and the Overdrive just sounds so lush thru that cab compared to the Cabs with tweeters.

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The cab closest to the camera is my Berg NV412 with the Fender grill I made for it.
 
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Used the SB300 into just a one Fender Bassman Pro Neo 115 cab on Saturday night at a corporate event. Used our PA so. ..no bass in the FOH. I thought about grabbing my other 115 Bassman Pro Neo cab but as I'd done another gig that afternoon. ...I couldn't be @ssed!!! :D
It did fine. I used my A-C EUT5 jazz 5 with flats. .& altho I had my Ric 4003 work rounds on there as 'back up/alternative bass' I stuck with the Alleva-Copollo as it just sounded SO good with the flats thru the vintage channel.
Pic not from the other night. ..but same rig. ..
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As I said. ...I COULDA done with the extra 115 but it IS fun pushing those 6x6550 power tubes into a bit of power tube grind :woot::bassist:
This rig. ..whether it's the Super Bassman or is the Bassman Pro Neo cab..... just seems to SIT in the mix beautifully. I ALWAYS get compliments on it nearly every time I use it. Plus the girth of each note. ..whether it's B or E string or up on the G string. .... it's simply a joy to get such power from a simply pluck of a note. I can let it ring and it STILL has guts. ... other amps I might have to pluck a few more times on the same note to get the ooomph needed for the band to supply the ass end needed. But the Super Bassman just does it.

Oh and the Fender 'failsafe' worked too. Somehow the speaker lead jack plug rocked itself outta its socket :nailbiting:...... halfway thru a song (luckily it was just as drum solo part started:cool:) ...... maybe I didn't plug it in properly. ..maybe we were tickling so hard it rocked out..... dunno. ..but. .. no bass signal. ..panic. ..checking all leads. ...etc etc. ..FINALLY found it. .... switched to standby & mute. .. plugged it back in. .. bias lights all ok. .. switched back on. ...un-mute and was good to go.
But. .....coulda been catastrophic if it weren't for the failsafe built in.

Love this amp! :hyper:
 
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rodl2005 said:
Used the SB300 into just a one Fender Bassman Pro Neo 115 cab on Saturday night at a corporate event. Used our PA so. ..no bass in the FOH. I thought about grabbing my other 115 Bassman Pro Neo cab but as I'd done another gig that afternoon. ...I couldn't be @ssed!!! :D
It did fine. I used my A-C EUT5 jazz 5 with flats. .& altho I had my Ric 4003 work rounds on there as 'back up/alternative bass' I stuck with the Alleva-Copollo as it just sounded SO good with the flats thru the vintage channel.
Pic not from the other night. ..but same rig. ..
20141001_091824_zpszcp4dmdt.jpg
:bassist:

As I said. ...I COULDA done with the extra 115 but it IS fun pushing those 6x6550 power tubes into a bit of power tube grind :woot::bassist:
This rig. ..whether it's the Super Bassman or is the Bassman Pro Neo cab..... just seems to SIT in the mix beautifully. I ALWAYS get compliments on it nearly every time I use it. Plus the girth of each note. ..whether it's B or E string or up on the G string. .... it's simply a joy to get such power from a simply pluck of a note. I can let it ring and it STILL has guts. ... other amps I might have to pluck a few more times on the same note to get the ooomph needed for the band to supply the ass end needed. But the Super Bassman just does it.

Oh and the Fender 'failsafe' worked too. Somehow the speaker lead jack plug rocked itself outta its socket :nailbiting:...... halfway thru a song (luckily it was just as drum solo part started:cool:) ...... maybe I didn't plug it in properly. ..maybe we were tickling so hard it rocked out..... dunno. ..but. .. no bass signal. ..panic. ..checking all leads. ...etc etc. ..FINALLY found it. .... switched to standby & mute. .. plugged it back in. .. bias lights all ok. .. switched back on. ...un-mute and was good to go.
But. .....coulda been catastrophic if it weren't for the failsafe built in.

Love this amp! :hyper:
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The Super Bassman Is a tough head to beat. I like using a Speakon cable into the cab's input jack, with a 1/4" adapter cable to the Speakon from the SB to the cab. There's no maybe hooked up with a Speakon Jack.

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west al said:
The Super Bassman Is a tough head to beat. I like using a Speakon cable into the cab's input jack, with a 1/4" adapter cable to the Speakon from the SB to the cab. There's no maybe hooked up with a Speakon Jack.

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Don't quite getcha here? ?? No speakon on the SB300.... are you meaning a jack to speakon converter. ..even so. .....???
 
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rodl2005 said:
Don't quite getcha here? ?? No speakon on the SB300.... are you meaning a jack to speakon converter. ..even so. .....???
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I'm sure it was my error in rushing setting up. ... not taking care of double checking the speaker plugs. I've never had this happen b4.
I've run it with an 8 ohm load with the amp set on 4 ohms b4 once iirc :nailbiting:
But all was /is well There's meant to be a circuit breaker or summink built in to the Fender tube amps to stop the amp seeing the no load situation. ....it obviously worked. Thank f.... :rolleyes: I mean ......gawd!:D
 
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I see where you are going with this, but you still have a 1/4" jack, but with the adaptor you have posted it would be hanging - which to me is even worse.

I use a 1/4 to speakon cable where needed, but if I was going to use an adaptor it would be like this with the 1/4 into the back of the amp, and the speakon connector which in dangling is actually locked in:

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Rocksolid said:
I see where you are going with this, but you still have a 1/4" jack, but with the adaptor you have posted it would be hanging - which to me is even worse.

I use a 1/4 to speakon cable where needed, but if I was going to use an adaptor it would be like this with the 1/4 into the back of the amp, and the speakon connector which in dangling is actually locked in:

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I use a twist tie to hold it into a knot. It's not accidentally being pulled out.
 
#1,893
Still surprises me that big tube amps like this, that need to have a load connected, don't come standard with Speakon, whereas smaller class D amps, which you can run without a load, do.

On another note, I'm picking up my Super Bassman this afternoon, and grabbed a 410 Neo last weekend. Have also now just finished reading this entire thread (what a mission!). Thanks to everyone who's contributed. There's been a lot of great information shared here that I'm looking forward to putting into practice.

Photos to come shortly

Ryan.
 
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Down_Low said:
Still surprises me that big tube amps like this, that need to have a load connected, don't come standard with Speakon, whereas smaller class D amps, which you can run without a load, do.

On another note, I'm picking up my Super Bassman this afternoon, and grabbed a 410 Neo last weekend. Have also now just finished reading this entire thread (what a mission!). Thanks to everyone who's contributed. There's been a lot of great information shared here that I'm looking forward to putting into practice.

Photos to come shortly

Ryan.
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I know what you mean about not having Speakon combination jacks on the head. I think you'll be glad you went with the Super Bassman / Bassman 410 Neo though. I really like my Super Bassman / Bassman 410 Neo. Best of playing with your Bassman setup.
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rodl2005 said:
I've seen various reasons why no speakon.... one being is only 300w. .some micro amps are 5,6,7,8,900w
I personally don't mind regular 6.5mm jack plugs. .. the problem I listed earlier is the 1st I've had in oooooh I hate to think how many years. .. probly 40 near :banghead:
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I agree about the watts being lower, but the load still has to be covered on most tube amps. A Speakon is a positive connection, no accidental disconnections with a Speakon. 48 Years here.
 
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Down_Low said:
It's glorious!! Band practise was cancelled tonight so have only had a chance to play at low volume at home so far. But it's everything I remember from previously playing a 100T, and so much more! The band is headlining a show on the weekend, you know I'll be giving the Bassman a good run at that.

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Yeah! Now that's an amp. Congrats man.
 

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