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The Mike Lull Club

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Vic said:
IMHO, PTC's are most useful if you have a preamp that is boost only, such as the Aggie OBP-1 or a Sadowsky. Otherwise, they're still useful, but it's much more at a nuance level, as it's now just a matter of liking the specific effects it has better than the effects of cutting the treble control on the preamp. They are noticeably different, and it has to do at least mostly with the way the capacitance introduced by the PTC reacts with the inductance of the pickups.

IMHO, I don't miss a PTC on an active bass that has a treble cut, but if the preamp has a PTC as a feature, I use it because it can be fun just to have another sound to play with.

On a bass that has no ability to cut treble otherwise, however, including a passive bass, I wouldn't own one without a PTC. There are simply times when I absolutely must tame the high end, tho rarely for all songs, so I don't want to have to keep messing with my amp to get that done.
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I went ahead and ordered the PTC from Roger... It's a cheap enough thing that if it wasn't as useful as I'm hoping it would be ok... My buddies from the Schroeder GTG all love the Lull but wished it had a PTC so we'll see what it really does.

The other temptation is a D-Tuner for the B string.... I don't think I'll ever have use for it but it would be cool to have.
 
#412
You know what, speaking of the 70's position J p/u... I've read that a PJ setup is not as snappy as a JJ with both pickups on, it has a rounder more supportive tone - will a 70's position J bring back some of that snap?

I asked JRB about his M5V w/ PJ and the "more supportive tone" part was his description...
 
#413
YCBass said:
You know what, speaking of the 70's position J p/u... I've read that a PJ setup is not as snappy as a JJ with both pickups on, it has a rounder more supportive tone - will a 70's position J bring back some of that snap?

I asked JRB about his M5V w/ PJ and the "more supportive tone" part was his description...
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IMHO the above is true, and the answer to your question is yes.

The P pickup is a much bigger sound than the neck pickup on a J, and at least IME, a PJ has always sounded bigger and "rounder" (as you say) than a straightup JJ.

Opting for the 70's placement on the bridge pickup in a PJ will bring some of that focus and aggression back, BUT, it comes at a small price. It thins out the solo'd bridge pickup enough that some folks who'd otherwise like the solo'd bridge pickup sound, might not at least strictly solo it on a 70's placement bass... they might need some extra bass or mids added from the preamp where they didn't before, or they might need to blend some of that P back into the mix to fatten it up a bit.

IMHO, this is not a big deal, but it is a diff to be considered.
 
#414
Fellow Lull-a-bites,
I'm going to drop an Audere preamp in my Modern 5 and set the Sadowsky preamp aside. The Sadowsky is a great preamp but I'm used to 3 bands (and more) of tone controlling gadgets on my bass so I'm going to make the move. I'm thinking the Audere 4-band with the Z-mode switch is going to give me a ton more tones to work with over the venerable 2-band boost-only Sadowsky.

My installer, Pete Skjold, is moving out of state so I have to nab him before he leaves. :hyper: Hopefully that will work out.:D

Whenever it is I get the thing installed, I'll let you know what I find.
 
#415
Basso Gruvitas said:
Fellow Lull-a-bites,
I'm going to drop an Audere preamp in my Modern 5 and set the Sadowsky preamp aside. The Sadowsky is a great preamp but I'm used to 3 bands (and more) of tone controlling gadgets on my bass so I'm going to make the move. I'm thinking the Audere 4-band with the Z-mode switch is going to give me a ton more tones to work with over the venerable 2-band boost-only Sadowsky.

My installer, Pete Skjold, is moving out of state so I have to nab him before he leaves. :hyper: Hopefully that will work out.:D

Whenever it is I get the thing installed, I'll let you know what I find.
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Whoa, where's Pete headed off to?
 
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Basso Gruvitas said:
Yeah, I have that PM on file, but I can't see making any changes. I really dig that M5.:bassist:

That PJ5 that Vic mentioned sounds very cool though.
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If you insist...
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#420
Vic said:
IMHO the above is true, and the answer to your question is yes.

The P pickup is a much bigger sound than the neck pickup on a J, and at least IME, a PJ has always sounded bigger and "rounder" (as you say) than a straightup JJ.

Opting for the 70's placement on the bridge pickup in a PJ will bring some of that focus and aggression back, BUT, it comes at a small price. It thins out the solo'd bridge pickup enough that some folks who'd otherwise like the solo'd bridge pickup sound, might not at least strictly solo it on a 70's placement bass... they might need some extra bass or mids added from the preamp where they didn't before, or they might need to blend some of that P back into the mix to fatten it up a bit.

IMHO, this is not a big deal, but it is a diff to be considered.
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Thanks for the Quote YCBass I do think it's more supportive, And I think Vic has a good point about this. I like having the 60's spacing because when I want more edge I solo the back pickup or at least favor it. Also keep in mind that with a PJ you have to have (I think so anyway) HumC pickups, which to my ears makes a bigger difference (compared to the SC) as far as cutting through then the position. So no matter what I think it is a trade off. You will miss that JJ tone but the P pickup is just very cool.

As a side note this week I am taking my two Lull's to their biggest gig yet, Red Rock's Denver, CO. Hopefully I will get a pick of them on the big stage.
 
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