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The NBA Playoffs Thread

#481
The series isn't over at all. The next three games are in LA, where the Lakers will get the friendly whistle and the Celts won't have the home crowd to get them all fired up. The Lakers haven't really clicked as a team so far yet, and if/when they do the results could be very different... especially in LA.
 
#482
seriously, stop whining about the refs. the lakers will get the same calls in LA...

and i think the series is far from over as well....but go celts!

(i also think its somewhat foolish to say that because boston has lots of good teams right now we are all "bandwagon fans." People love sports up here, we're just very fortunate to have a lot of success at the moment. deal with it.)
 
#484
Beta said:
Van Gundy has coached recently enough to really know players' skills and tendencies. My only gripe is that he, and Mark Jackson, seem to think the rulebook is a meaningless document.
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I really appreciated their dicussion about The Rule Book early in last night's game, when Jackson was insisting that some pansy-ass foul really was a good call "straight out of the rule book" and Van Gundy pointed out that if you were going to go "by the rule book" you would have to call travelling on EVERY SINGLE POSSESSION!
 
#485
Chris Fitzgerald said:
The series isn't over at all. The next three games are in LA, where the Lakers will get the friendly whistle and the Celts won't have the home crowd to get them all fired up. The Lakers haven't really clicked as a team so far yet, and if/when they do the results could be very different... especially in LA.
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Hate to say it, but HUGE +1.
 
#486
burk48237 said:
the C's get an incredible whistle in the Garden.
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Chris Fitzgerald said:
The next three games are in LA, where the Lakers will get the friendly whistle
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I've heard this concept mentioned numerous times, and I still don't quite understand how it works, or how the league can turn a blind eye to it. I completely understand how the home crowd = home team advantage, but how does the home court affect the judgement of ostensibly objective referees?

Is this supposedly a conscious thing? Are the refs literally thinking "ah, I won't call that here, I'll give 'em a break" ?

...or is it more like "ah, I won't call that here because the crowd will rip my head off and key my car in the parking lot" ?

Or is it completely unconscious, something that Just Happens when they get into the home team's venue? And if it always happens, how can the league be in denial?
 
#487
yeah, i don't get how the home teams always seem to get the calls...but then again the superstars get the calls to. do the refs consciously do that? its it THAT hard to be consistent and fair in any location and with any player?
 
#488
Hoover said:
I've heard this concept mentioned numerous times, and I still don't quite understand how it works, or how the league can turn a blind eye to it. I completely understand how the home crowd = home team advantage, but how does the home court affect the judgement of ostensibly objective referees?

Is this supposedly a conscious thing? Are the refs literally thinking "ah, I won't call that here, I'll give 'em a break" ?

...or is it more like "ah, I won't call that here because the crowd will rip my head off and key my car in the parking lot" ?

Or is it completely unconscious, something that Just Happens when they get into the home team's venue? And if it always happens, how can the league be in denial?
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:D
 
#490
Hoover said:
I really appreciated their dicussion about The Rule Book early in last night's game, when Jackson was insisting that some pansy-ass foul really was a good call "straight out of the rule book" and Van Gundy pointed out that if you were going to go "by the rule book" you would have to call travelling on EVERY SINGLE POSSESSION!
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To be accurate, it wasn't Jackson that said the call was straight out of the rule book. It was Mike Breen (the guy in the booth who never played or coached professional basketball).

If Jackson and Van Gundy agree on one thing, it's that they think the refs suck, mostly because those two feel the refs don't have any consistency with their calls.

I don't believe in the concept of a "playoff foul." The rules are the rules, and a foul is a foul, whether it's a preseason exhibition or the NBA Finals. Jackson and Van Gundy say they want consistency, but it's usually right after they go off on how this is the NBA Finals, and whatever was just called shouldn't be a foul.

It's not the referees' fault that NBA players can't play without traveling. Better coaching might cure that problem.
 
#491
Hoover said:
Cute graphic! Of course, it would've been funnier if it had been in response to a post that wasn't completely germane & on-topic!
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Clearly, your post was relevant to the subject; I just found that pic, thought it was funny, and wanted to post it. :) In truth, your post was more of a "Pandora's Box" or "Can O' Worms" post than a hijack.

I've never understood the "home whistle" phenomenon myself, and don't really see it in other sports like I do in basketball.
 
#492
Disco_Gee said:
Yeah the whole thing was a joke. Had the refs actually called fouls against Boston and allowed the Lakers to go to the line it would have been a different game.
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I never want to be the guy that blames the refs, but this last game was a joke. I can think of three times when they didn't get called for fouls, and they even showed replays to back it up. Gasol's lay-up, that went in, but clearly should have been a three point opportunity. The replay clearly showed his hand getting smacked. Koby drives to basket, people reaching in, his arms getting smacked on the way up, and it goes in, then Kobe looks at the ref for a foul call gets none, then reacts and gets a technical. Another time was a clear block, all ball, the Celtics got a foul call in their favor. I'm not saying that this was a deciding factor in the game, but I can't help but imagine that this would have an affect on the morale of the team. Eventually, the Lakers just gave up.

We'll see if the Lakers can recover from a 2-0 shut out. I'd be surprised. :scowl:
 
#495
MakiSupaStar said:
I never want to be the guy that blames the refs, but this last game was a joke. I can think of three times when they didn't get called for fouls, and they even showed replays to back it up. Gasol's lay-up, that went in, but clearly should have been a three point opportunity. The replay clearly showed his hand getting smacked. Koby drives to basket, people reaching in, his arms getting smacked on the way up, and it goes in, then Kobe looks at the ref for a foul call gets none, then reacts and gets a technical. Another time was a clear block, all ball, the Celtics got a foul call in their favor. I'm not saying that this was a deciding factor in the game, but I can't help but imagine that this would have an affect on the morale of the team. Eventually, the Lakers just gave up.

We'll see if the Lakers can recover from a 2-0 shut out. I'd be surprised. :scowl:
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Maki my friend. Step back. Breath deep. Realize you are whining that Kobe didn't get a call. Kobe almost ALWAYS gets a call (although not as much as flop king Dwayne Wade).
 
#497
MakiSupaStar said:
Not just Kobe, the whole friggin' team. Anyway whatever. I'm over it. I feel better.
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So Maki. I'm soon to be 44. I grew up in the era where women in certain publications were, how shall I say, adorned. Is it no violation of man law to prefer ladies to be neatly shorn, even gravitating towards foliage, rather than the young man's preference for smoothness?

BTW. Go Celts.
 
#499
cheezewiz said:
So Maki. I'm soon to be 44. I grew up in the era where women in certain publications were, how shall I say, adorned. Is it no violation of man law to prefer ladies to be neatly shorn, even gravitating towards foliage, rather than the young man's preference for smoothness?

BTW. Go Celts.
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I think you will notice there was a man law addendum in regards to landing strips, if there isn't there should be. Lakers.
 

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