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The NBA Playoffs Thread

Embellisher Y'know, for a guy with a rep as soft or a playoff choker, Dirk sure does have a long list of wow-inducing postseason performances.

His best IMO was the 50-point performance against the Suns in Game 5 of the Western Conference finals.

Of course, there is his 37-point, 15-board performance in Game 7 in San Antonio, highlighted by his OT-forcing and-1.

Tonight was as big a must-win as the Mavs have ever had in a non-elimination game. And Dirk delivered 32 points, 19 rebounds, six assists and two blocks.

My beef with Dirk is two-fold, like another MVP winner he can't guard anyone. And despite the fact he puts up big numbers, he doesn't demand the ball in the clutch, and he hasn't consistently hit big playoff shots. He is a classic numbers player, and yes his defensive effort is soft because he doesn't have a position. He's to soft and not physical enough to guard a good four, and he doesn't have the quickness or lateral movement to guard a three. Perhaps his numbers would be a little lower if he worked on both ends of the floor, less MVP's and personal accolades, but more rings.:hmm:

As far as AJ he's been a mixed bag. I actually thought Dallas was better defensively with Harris. Kidd has really lost explosiveness since his injury. AJ did a good job of instilling a team defense mentality in them, something Nelly never demanded. They play reasonably good team defense although in a playoff series, their liabilities show up. Offensively they're biggest problem is they have no post game.

Adam Barkley Burk, I tired to tell you the BadBoys 2 Pistons were down 2 years ago after DWade mauled them. Letting Big Ben walk last year was the nail in the coffin. Neener. As a Heat fan, I have to take solace in that fact with while Miami is the worst team in the league and should be the worst team for another year or two, the Pistons will be beaten every year that they decide to just pencil themselves in for the NBA Finals. The Heat almost beat them the year before they won it and Lebron took it from them last year. Barring their championship season in 04, their run of 5 straight Eastern Conference Finals appearances in beginning to resemble a New York football team from the early 90's.

They are a better team without Bens contract, no question in my mind about that. Big Ben is not half the player he was three years ago. And when you don't contribute on the offensive end it's not enough to just be good defensively, you have to be a stud, and Ben is not that anymore. They are not the "Badboys 2" I like this team a lot, but that team had some genuine offensive studs too, and if not for Bill Lambier getting called for fouling the air about a foot away from Jabbar they would have won three tittles in a row.

This Pistons team will still be in the Conference finals. The Sixers have won their last win of the series, So I was a couple games off. :p No one saw Atlanta beating Boston one game either. But Boston is a very good team too. My biggest concern about the Pistons is still officiating. Like the Bad Boys they don't get a good whistle, unlike the Bad Boys they aren't always good enough to overcome it. Even in tonight's victory I'm left with one question, is it possible for a Pistons guard to get to the foul line after getting mauled on the way to the basket? The concept of building a team with no superstars, may not work in David Sterns Hollywood NBA. :rollno:
 
Well, I have to say, I kind of always liked the Mavs. I like Dirk's game and Avery Johnson is a fellow New Orleanian. However, I've got to say, Stackhouse is an $%&^@#) saying in his comments about Byron Scott. Gee, you think he heard that from Jason Kidd who got Scott fired?? Last time I checked, Kidd hasn't sniffed the finals without Scott. Not to mention Josh Howard and his idiotic comments, what a fool. I think he may have smoked a bit too much evidently.

It works though b/c now I really dislike the Mavs. In the end, I just don't think the Mavs can steal home court from the Hornets to win this series. In fact, I'll stick with Hornets in 5.

Man, I tell you, if the Mavs lose this series, and it looks like they are going to, the big German gets none of the blame this time. Josh Howard has sucked big time. Cannot hit an open shot to save his life.:atoz:
 
Boy the Suns put on a display yesterday! It's about time they made it a series.

Still can't see them coming back from 0-3.

The Spurs have too many offensive weapons.

Big game for the Celtics tonight. I was surprise at how well the Hawks played after their play in games 1 and 2. It did seem that they were getting the benefit of the doubt from the refs one too many times.

I don't think Horford's taunting of Pierce will work out for him, PP will come out gunning tonight.

go C's!

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Even in tonight's victory I'm left with one question, is it possible for a Pistons guard to get to the foul line after getting mauled on the way to the basket? The concept of building a team with no superstars, may not work in David Sterns Hollywood NBA. :rollno:

I look at it this way. The Pistons are a physical team. Their guards are not softies, they are physical on defense too. They have to take it because they dish it out as much or more - I love the Pistons but it's fully deserved and that's just how they play basketball.

Oh yeah.. Go Magic! Another great victory on Saturday.
 
You never know. If the Nuggets can keep guys like Walton, Farmar and Vujacic from playing well they might have a chance at this game. They're not going to stop Kobe or Gasol.

If Atlanta can take two from the Celtics (yeah, you were right), and Golden State could take out the Mavericks last year, there's no reason Denver can't snag one game off the Lakers.
 
I look at it this way. The Pistons are a physical team. Their guards are not softies, they are physical on defense too. They have to take it because they dish it out as much or more - I love the Pistons but it's fully deserved and that's just how they play basketball.

Oh yeah.. Go Magic! Another great victory on Saturday.

I'm not sure their any more physical as the Spurs or the Celtics.

Speaking of the Celtics, the Pistons don't look so bad after tonight's Celtic loss to Atlanta. One of the things people forget is that the East teams work on defense, it makes even the lower seeds tougher in the playoffs. The West has two terrible defensive teams and one mediocre one in the playoffs. In the meanwhile Joe Johnson looked like Lebron against the Pistons only far smoother. It was a sick coming out party.:rollno:

In a way I'm not surprised, although I think the Celtics are a better team then the Pistons, the one edge the Pistons have is playoff experience. The Celts role players don't have it, and it really shows away from home. Wether or not they'll have it by the conference finals (if they get there) is still an open question. Before tonight I would have favored the Celts, because of the business like way they've played so far. But they didn't look very business like tonight.:D
 
Man, I tell you, if the Mavs lose this series, and it looks like they are going to, the big German gets none of the blame this time. Josh Howard has sucked big time. Cannot hit an open shot to save his life.:atoz:

I know some people will still point to Dirk, but I thought he played better than the rest of that team. Stackhouse mouthed off about how bad of a coach Byron Scott is and then did nothing (while Byron Scott is going to be named Coach of the Year before Game 5), Josh Howard admits to smoking weed then plays like he is high, and Jason Kidd gets so torched that he resorts to a ridiculous dirty foul that could have seriously injured Jannero Pargo (IMO, he should be suspended). I guess I"m having trouble like you seeing how Dirk and AJ are the biggest problems this team has!!
 
I guess I"m having trouble like you seeing how Dirk and AJ are the biggest problems this team has!!

I think the issue has been that the Mavs have jettisoned younger players in favor of name veterans who are at the end of their respective lines.

I don't think Avery Johnson was consulted on the Kidd trade. I can't see how he'd be in favor given that it makes them worse defensively. The Mavs PG has to guard, potentially, Tony Parker, Chris Paul, Allen Iverson and Deron Williams- none of whom are regarded as slow. If you have Terry guard them, Kidd will be stuck on bigger shooting guards. He's really going to guard Ginobili or Bryant?

I agree that the blame for the Mavs' troubles belongs somewhere other than on Dirk or AJ. I think it's unfortunate that the team they have now is nowhere as interesting to watch as the team that made the finals two years ago.
 
Ironically, I think the successes of the early 1980's Celtics has haunted that team ever since. Because among the many things that the Bird-Parish-McHale gang could do exceedingly well, the most impressive -- and the one that subsequent Celtic squads have never been able to figure out how to do -- was their ability to come from behind and squeak out a win in the last seconds. Literally, seconds. Down by 7 with 0:04 left on the clock? Not a problem.

We have a running joke at home: Whenever my wife walks by the TV and sees a game that's pathetically beyond hope (like down 15 points with less than 0:01 remaining) she says to me "your old Celtics could do it."

Whoever owned the secret of that skill forgot to pass it on to the new kids in green.
 
Alright! Magic put the first round away. First time in 12 years, oh dear. But they get the rest of the week off and hopefully we'll see them match up against the 76ers in the 2nd round.

Elsewhere, I'm anticipating a Cavalier vs Celtics 2nd round.
 
This Pistons team will still be in the Conference finals. The Sixers have won their last win of the series, So I was a couple games off. :p No one saw Atlanta beating Boston one game either. But Boston is a very good team too. My biggest concern about the Pistons is still officiating. Like the Bad Boys they don't get a good whistle, unlike the Bad Boys they aren't always good enough to overcome it. Even in tonight's victory I'm left with one question, is it possible for a Pistons guard to get to the foul line after getting mauled on the way to the basket? The concept of building a team with no superstars, may not work in David Sterns Hollywood NBA. :rollno:

I'll agree but add that Rasheed Wallace could have been the best power forward ever if he wasn't such an idiot. He is still probably top 5 in my eyes.

Talk about a good whistle, Pau Gasol pushed over Marcus Camby (never seen him flop) and then dunked and nothing got called. The refs are determined to help a team that doesn't need any help whatsoever. I see the Lakers winning this year.
 
Bruce Bowen is the dirtiest player in the league. I can't stand him. The rest of his team is only slightly better.
Bah, I like the Spurs. For the past couple years, people have been slagging them as "boring" and unathletic" and picking the oh-so-trendy Suns to beat them--that didn't work out once again this year.;) And while some of the stuff Bowen does crosses the line, in my opinion, they're simply an excellent defensive team overall--and that's what wins in the playoffs most of the time. Finally, I've been a big Duncan fan since college, the guy's still awesome.

ETA: I have no ties to San Antonio, either. I'm a Magic fan. Sooo nice to see them actually win a series!
 
Bah, I like the Spurs. For the past couple years, people have been slagging them as "boring" and unathletic" and picking the oh-so-trendy Suns to beat them--that didn't work out once again this year.;) And while some of the stuff Bowen does crosses the line, in my opinion, they're simply an excellent defensive team overall--and that's what wins in the playoffs most of the time. Finally, I've been a big Duncan fan since college, the guy's still awesome.

ETA: I have no ties to San Antonio, either. I'm a Magic fan. Sooo nice to see them actually win a series!

I saw what they got away with last season. I'd call it dirty.