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The official gym & weightlifting thread! rep #2

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or p90x.com


really good warm up and stretching, and then strength training

you go at your own pace, so you can go slow if you want, _or have to_

or max out.....


either way it kicks your butt


12 dvds you do the workouts at home

al


Is P90X worth the money? Im on a serious workout streak and I want to look good when school starts. I have always been intrigued by P90X.
 
You could probably find out everything you need to by some research on the net and save some money. The great thing about weight training is it's a cheap hobby (well, it can get really expensive, but you can get just as good results with less expense and some research and persistance).

This place is pretty good for excersises:

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With proper technique I hope :)

(deadlifts have to be one of the worst for people ramping up massive weights when they can't do the lift properly)

Absolutely! I had good technique up until 295, when my back started to curve slightly on the way up. The trainer advised me to stop @ 295 because of the slight deviance in form. I'll get it higher, but I need to make sure my form is spot on before continuing. Eh, Rome wasn't built in a day!

ian
 
Absolutely! I had good technique up until 295, when my back started to curve slightly on the way up. The trainer advised me to stop @ 295 because of the slight deviance in form. I'll get it higher, but I need to make sure my form is spot on before continuing. Eh, Rome wasn't built in a day!

ian

Crossfit instructors are nuts about technique. We went to the regional qualifiers and the judges only counted the reps done with proper form. I am crossfit certified and have been doing the crossfit football program since it was introduced (it is like CF with heavy weight). The increased loads help your body accommodate the devastating metabolic workouts. Using your legs and core muscles is crucial to your overall fitness level.

Here are my 1RMs as of a few weeks ago:

Back Squat: 440
Front Squat: 315
Overhead Squat: 255
Clean and Jerk: 235
Dead Lift: 470
Snatch: 190
Press: 180
Bench: 380 (involved in CF football)

Oh... M/27/5'11/190
 
Hey Mohawk, do you squat snatch or split snatch? I can't seem to figure out which one works better for me. I have a pretty strong split jerk, but the catch is a little weird for me, so I am concerned that a lot of weight coming straight from the floor might jack me up.
 
Squat snatch, split jerk.

Just can't seem to get the logistics of the split snatch to work. Must have a great sense of balance to pull that one off I'd think. Have done squat jerk's in the past, but ended up moving towards the split jerk as it's easier (worst reason to do an excersise ever!)

Concerned about the split snatch? (my brain ain't engaging properly today)
 
Right, I am concerned that speeding through the middle and snapping the hips with a maximal load and catching it in the split lunge will cause me balance issues and I may end up hurting something. We have yet to do a 1RM snatch, but I have never done over 190lbs, so I was looking for your opinion since you do oly weightlifting more than me. We did a metabolic snatch workout today with 135 and I switched back and forth, it just seems that catching it in the squat is a stronger position, but I was just curious if I was cheating myself.
 
I'd say you are spot on regarding the balance issue, I really don't see the point in the split snatch, it's harder to do but without much in the way of added benifits.

A benifit I can see with the squat snatch is that it really makes you work on form in getting the bar up. With the split snatch I'd think you have more room for the bar falling a bit backwards or forwards where you'd need to ditch it with the squat. Tho you do loose side to side stability, which, to my mind, is much easier to get right with that lift.

I've not done any snatches in about a fortnight, been working on more strength based excersises as opposed to power based (basically was fed up with my squat being stuck in a plateau).

Still needing to try this CF. Though it does put the $***s in me !
 
Anyone mention this yet? [I did a search and saw nothing.]

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Suspension training will hit every part of your body and seriously kick your --- if you so desire. If you want to avoid alcohol between sets you can fasten the thing to just about anything out back and go at it. Also there's great corrective posture stuff you can do after a day/night of hunching over playing bass.
 
I can't believe how many people squat with bad form where I go! It's driving me crazy when they are loading weight on there and going down like 8 inches from parallel! Finally the coach told them to go down further and most of them couldn't do over 135 in a deep squat when they normally do 185-225! I mean if you only squat down that far you're only going to be strong that far right? On a different note I've been to a couple of wrestling practices, intense. I didn't know I could pull THAT muscle! :) Lots 'o fun though.
 
I can't believe how many people squat with bad form where I go! It's driving me crazy when they are loading weight on there and going down like 8 inches from parallel! Finally the coach told them to go down further and most of them couldn't do over 135 in a deep squat when they normally do 185-225! I mean if you only squat down that far you're only going to be strong that far right? On a different note I've been to a couple of wrestling practices, intense. I didn't know I could pull THAT muscle! :) Lots 'o fun though.

If you do not break parallel, the squat does not count, period. Also, doing half squats is much harder on your knees because they are what stops your downward motion at that angle, rather than the glutes and hamstrings stopping the movement in a full squat. You should try to go ass to ankles with as much weight as you can in order to build your squat up.

Funny story: Being a crossfitter, I can care less about how "big" someone is, they are not functional. I had a roided out body builder approach me and ask me about what I do for my legs (my best muscle group). I told him I do tons of squats, dead lifts, lunges, etc. He asked me how much I could squat and I told him 440 (that is below parallel) and he just laughed. He then told me that he could squat 500lbs. I told him that there was no way which upset him, so we scheduled a squat contest. He could not even get 315 parallel, not even close. I guess that some people feel that if they can break at the knees the squat counts. Good luck in a competition...

Always do FULL squats.
 
In one week of dynamic stretches I went from what I thought was just below parallel to hitting my calves, even had to put the spotter catches further down. Squat is one of the ultimate exercises!

Yup, most people have really tight hip flexors because they sit down for long periods of time during the day (work, etc.) As the hips get tight they pull the pelvis forward which makes the glutes and hamstrings tight as well, stretching and resistance training will help correct this, but you have to go through the full range of motion. You should also try overhead squats and front sqauts, that will really loosen you up!
 
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