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THE Pedals for the SVT Sound

#41
I was in a band where they had an SVT in the rehearsal space. Its quickness kind of scared me and I didn't love the sound. I on a TB break at the time and these pedals probably weren't even available yet. I'd have bought one of them stat to practice with the preamp at home. Then I could have been a better functioning band member.
 
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hbabels said:
The Ampeg SCR- DI really sounds very SVT like with the scrambler circuit just slightly blended in, I don't like it at more extreme settings. If you pair it with a good subtle drive pedal & it can be very SVT like.
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What about the standalone Ampeg Classic preamp pedal? Is it the same as a SCR DI just without the Scrambler section?
 
#48
NKBassman said:
I find the Broughton SVPre to be a great preamp pedal in general. Whether or not it sounds exactly like a real SVT... I dunno, whatever... icing on the cake. I'm of the opinion that If it sounds good it is good. It's very versatile tone shaper, and IMO/IME the tone is Ampeggy enough to satisfy me.

I personally hated the VT Bass, and didn't think it sounded particularly like any Ampeg amp I've ever heard or used. That was the V1 way back when it was first introduced. Maybe the current version is better, but I'm not motivated to try and find out.
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Haven't tried the VT Bass, but unlike most folks on TB I really didn't like the Broughton SVPre at all - to me it did really weird things to the low end and seemed to cut certain bass frequencies, just enabling it with eq flat made the bass fall out of the mix.

It was a really well made unit tho, & I love the broughton Messenger pre i have (very neutral sounding), and we are all different players with different sounds we are after, so YMMV.

I've always like the IK Multimedia Ampeg emulation in their Amplitube 4 software - when i'm mixing i generally use 75% of a DI signal (after effects) going thru that and 25% of a mic'd cab, it always seems to make the bass fit really well in the mix.

the video's of that Master Effects Super 300 sound great! i wish it was a smaller pedal tho...
 
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thumbslapper said:
Haven't tried the VT Bass, but unlike most folks on TB I really didn't like the Broughton SVPre at all - to me it did really weird things to the low end and seemed to cut certain bass frequencies, just enabling it with eq flat made the bass fall out of the mix.

It was a really well made unit tho, & I love the broughton Messenger pre i have (very neutral sounding), and we are all different players with different sounds we are after, so YMMV.

I've always like the IK Multimedia Ampeg emulation in their Amplitube 4 software - when i'm mixing i generally use 75% of a DI signal (after effects) going thru that and 25% of a mic'd cab, it always seems to make the bass fit really well in the mix.

the video's of that Master Effects Super 300 sound great! i wish it was a smaller pedal tho...
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I love the SV-Pre, but I agree that its EQ is weird and somewhat counter-intuitive. I actually find it sounds best with all three frequencies boosted, and depending on the cab setup I sometimes turn the bass or treble almost all the way up.

Super 300 looks real nice, and the builder is Canadian too! Yet another company to obsess about.
 
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thumbslapper said:
Haven't tried the VT Bass, but unlike most folks on TB I really didn't like the Broughton SVPre at all - to me it did really weird things to the low end and seemed to cut certain bass frequencies, just enabling it with eq flat made the bass fall out of the mix.

It was a really well made unit tho, & I love the broughton Messenger pre i have (very neutral sounding), and we are all different players with different sounds we are after, so YMMV.

I've always like the IK Multimedia Ampeg emulation in their Amplitube 4 software - when i'm mixing i generally use 75% of a DI signal (after effects) going thru that and 25% of a mic'd cab, it always seems to make the bass fit really well in the mix.

the video's of that Master Effects Super 300 sound great! i wish it was a smaller pedal tho...
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no offence, but I've never understood this approach... "I arbitrarily set all my knobs to 12:00 and it didn't sound the way I wanted it to!" That's what EQ is for, no?

Anyway, carry on...
 
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NKBassman said:
no offence, but I've never understood this approach... "I arbitrarily set all my knobs to 12:00 and it didn't sound the way I wanted it to!" That's what EQ is for, no?

Anyway, carry on...
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i found even with the bass boosted it sounded weird to my ears. I had it for 2-3 months and tried a bunch of different settings and behind a couple diff amps (mesa 400+, alembic f1x+amp) but never found anything that worked. I really lusted after it as well when it came out - tried to buy it new a few times which was pretty frustrating (thats true with almost any Broughton pedal tho), finally found one on reverb.

I thought the same thing about the MBD-1 as well - a bunch of folks really love it but it never did anything for me either, so i'm writing the whole thing off as (take your pick):
- ymmv
- every bassist has their own tone they pursue
- same pedals sound different with different efx chains, players & amps
- one mans treasure is another mans trash
- the tone that works is the one that fits in with what other players in the band are doing and the genre you are playing and not the tone that sounds good solo'd
- the One True Bass Tone (™) that exists above all others can only be played by my Genius Fingers (™) thru my Genius Pedalboard (™ again) and any other bass tone ever created is trash and fit only to be used as a foley-in flatulence sound in an Eddie Murphy movie.
- There is no "right" or "wrong" sound, judgement of such can only be done by the creator of said sound.
- There is no crappy bass tones, only crappy people.

-ts
 
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thumbslapper said:
and any other bass tone ever created is trash and fit only to be used as a foley-in flatulence sound in an Eddie Murphy movie.
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thumbslapper said:
the video's of that Master Effects Super 300 sound great! i wish it was a smaller pedal tho...
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i emailed Tim at Master Effects and he told me that he's almost finished with a new SMD version so it just might possibly be in a smaller enclosure. even so, my original version sounds so good i won't be letting go of it.
 
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