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THE Pedals for the SVT Sound

#21
Catalinbread sft is close for one type of svt-tone, really good one. For just recorded tone, there’s loads of ways in getting there. The torpedo+vt combo sure sounds good for that.
For live in the room feel and volume, the real thing is hard to beat when cranked. Today I use hx stomp into effects return of either a peavey vb-2 or mesa 400(non plus), using only the power amps(180-225w). Less volume but more heft and bottom than using a v-4b. And it sounds just as great. I’ve tried going into solid state power amps, but it just doesn’t sound as good as when pushing those power tubes. Just my two cents.
 
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Wretched Banana said:
I didn't A/B but I did mess with it, and I don't disagree that it's an impressive piece of gear. I just prefer something with more transparent EQ settings as opposed to working with abstractions like mic positions and IRs emulating specific hardware. I'm not wedded to the Omnicabsim either, any similar device works. To my ears all of these options sounded excellent at different times, but again, I've never A/B'd.
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The Torpedo sounds closer to the sound of a live cab mic’d up in a room, more depth and “air”, especially given the adjustable amount of room sound and different room varieties themselves.

That said, the OmniCabSim and similar variable LPF/HPF pedals are definitely easier to adjust on the fly.
 
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_HunterB_ said:
Anyone who has tried to get the SVT sound with a pedal is probably familiar with the VT Bass pedal from sansamp. In my dealings with it, it gets pretty close to the real deal. However, the incorrect EQ frequencies, very vanilla speaker simulation, and harsh bite switch make it fall just short of “holy sh*t!” levels of excellence for my very picky ears. Enter the Two Notes Torpedo Cab M. For the unacquainted, it’s a cab sim/IR loader with power amp simulation. On its own, it gets a convincing tube amp sound. You can select KT88 tubes which are very close to and arguably better than the 6550s used in SVTs. You can “push the tubes” to get a little grit, and coupled with the 410 SVT cab IR, you’d have a hard time discerning that it’s a digital setup. However, coupled with the VT Bass DI, you essentially have an Ampeg at your feet. Turning the bite and speaker sim switches off on the VT gives you a near perfect SVT overdrive and character when run into the 410 IR, and creating a custom eq on the Cab M using the frequencies found on svt front panels lets you to further refine the sound and allows for better tweakability than the VT DI does. You can even replicate the effect of the Ultra Hi and Ultra Lo buttons. I leave the power amp sim off when using the VT, so you can certainly achieve this sound with another cab sim and separate programmable eq. This is by no means a corporate or paid endorsement of these companies, I just like that the torpedo has everything built in. Hopefully this has been helpful to those who are on a quest to get that classic grunty sound! I’ll continue to experiment and drop any findings in this thread.
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It’s absolutely the most realistic sounding cab sim pedal on the market: the only downside to me is that making tonal adjustments via the front panel instead of the software is very cumbersome.

But in a unit that size, that sounds that good, it’s hard to harp on that fault for long.
 
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_HunterB_ said:
Anyone who has tried to get the SVT sound with a pedal is probably familiar with the VT Bass pedal from sansamp. In my dealings with it, it gets pretty close to the real deal. However, the incorrect EQ frequencies, very vanilla speaker simulation, and harsh bite switch make it fall just short of “holy sh*t!” levels of excellence for my very picky ears. Enter the Two Notes Torpedo Cab M. For the unacquainted, it’s a cab sim/IR loader with power amp simulation. On its own, it gets a convincing tube amp sound. You can select KT88 tubes which are very close to and arguably better than the 6550s used in SVTs. You can “push the tubes” to get a little grit, and coupled with the 410 SVT cab IR, you’d have a hard time discerning that it’s a digital setup. However, coupled with the VT Bass DI, you essentially have an Ampeg at your feet. Turning the bite and speaker sim switches off on the VT gives you a near perfect SVT overdrive and character when run into the 410 IR, and creating a custom eq on the Cab M using the frequencies found on svt front panels lets you to further refine the sound and allows for better tweakability than the VT DI does. You can even replicate the effect of the Ultra Hi and Ultra Lo buttons. I leave the power amp sim off when using the VT, so you can certainly achieve this sound with another cab sim and separate programmable eq. This is by no means a corporate or paid endorsement of these companies, I just like that the torpedo has everything built in. Hopefully this has been helpful to those who are on a quest to get that classic grunty sound! I’ll continue to experiment and drop any findings in this thread.
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Nice. I've been curious about the CAB M for a while now. Is the SVT 410 IR pre-loaded?
I hated the VT Bass, but I love my Broughton SVPre.
 
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Zymba said:
Have you played through it? I couldn't disagree more. It's the single most impressive sounding cabsim (with additional pre/power amp sim, extensive EQ, compression, many mic and mic placement options, 3rd party IR capable and ability to run 2 different cabs simultaneously) pedal I've used.

I can imagine that even the v.1 VT Bass pedal would sound amazing through the Cab M. @_HunterB_ have you tried any of the 810 sims from Two Notes yet? There are some free options available too. I really liked the free bass pack from Shiftline, which includes an 810.
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I haven’t tried any 810 sims yet but I’d love to. I’ll definitely check shiftline out. I’m actually using IRS from a boutique amp company called Science Amplification. There’s a 610 and a 2x15 I believe. They are fantastic, preferable to the “Fat Mama” to my ears.
 
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NKBassman said:
Nice. I've been curious about the CAB M for a while now. Is the SVT 410 IR pre-loaded?
I hated the VT Bass, but I love my Broughton SVPre.
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Yes it is, and it’s very good. There are plenty of free or cheap third party 810s that are also fantastic. It’s a great pedal. I will agree with others that it’s not quick to adjust in battle, but this is forgivable for its features.
 
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_HunterB_ said:
Anyone who has tried to get the SVT sound with a pedal is probably familiar with the VT Bass pedal from sansamp. In my dealings with it, it gets pretty close to the real deal. However, the incorrect EQ frequencies, very vanilla speaker simulation, and harsh bite switch make it fall just short of “holy sh*t!” levels of excellence for my very picky ears. Enter the Two Notes Torpedo Cab M. For the unacquainted, it’s a cab sim/IR loader with power amp simulation. On its own, it gets a convincing tube amp sound. You can select KT88 tubes which are very close to and arguably better than the 6550s used in SVTs. You can “push the tubes” to get a little grit, and coupled with the 410 SVT cab IR, you’d have a hard time discerning that it’s a digital setup. However, coupled with the VT Bass DI, you essentially have an Ampeg at your feet. Turning the bite and speaker sim switches off on the VT gives you a near perfect SVT overdrive and character when run into the 410 IR, and creating a custom eq on the Cab M using the frequencies found on svt front panels lets you to further refine the sound and allows for better tweakability than the VT DI does. You can even replicate the effect of the Ultra Hi and Ultra Lo buttons. I leave the power amp sim off when using the VT, so you can certainly achieve this sound with another cab sim and separate programmable eq. This is by no means a corporate or paid endorsement of these companies, I just like that the torpedo has everything built in. Hopefully this has been helpful to those who are on a quest to get that classic grunty sound! I’ll continue to experiment and drop any findings in this thread.
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The Broughton SV-Pre is getting a lot of love. I will definitely have to check it out if I can get my hands on one. A better title for this thread would probably be “Some Excellent Options For SVT Emulation” or something like that. I am by no means the expert on this. Thanks everyone for your suggestions.
 
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Aidenn7 said:
to me the old school sound of an svt is 5 parts... the bass.. the attack.. or preboost.. preamp/eq.. the transformer.. powertubes... and the cab..

so to get as close to the sound as possible.. passive p.. Creation audio 4.23mk boost.. master effect 300.. a lighting boy 2020.. and ohmni cab on 810 mode..
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why am I thinking I missed something? maybe the power amp distortion like a Earthquaker Devices Acapulco Gold.. and a broken speaker like fuzz
 
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Jim C said:
I have an SVT and didn't think the Broughton sounded like one no matter what amp I tried it with.
It is a very nice EQ pedal though.
We all hear it differently.
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I find the Broughton SVPre to be a great preamp pedal in general. Whether or not it sounds exactly like a real SVT... I dunno, whatever... icing on the cake. I’m of the opinion that If it sounds good it is good. It’s very versatile tone shaper, and IMO/IME the tone is Ampeggy enough to satisfy me.

I personally hated the VT Bass, and didn’t think it sounded particularly like any Ampeg amp I’ve ever heard or used. That was the V1 way back when it was first introduced. Maybe the current version is better, but I’m not motivated to try and find out.
 
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I think the key with the SV-Pre, as someone mentioned earlier, is that it emulates the SVT EQ section very well, but is fairly clean and "polite" compared to an actual SVT, so you have to add something else to get the sound of power tubes/transformers. I frequently run the Broughton Solarian in front of my SV-Pre, and I also really enjoyed stacking it with the Xotic EP Booster.
 
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Nighttrain1127 said:
One Control Silver Peg Is an SVT in a Box so to speak. And yes I have 2 SVT's and yes I have the Silver Peg. And IMHO it sounds pretty close to a point. Nothing will get you all the way there except an SVT.
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+1
I had been gigging a VT since 2010 and the One Control SSP kicked it off of my board earlier this year.
For the sound I'm going for, it was a no brainer.
YMMV.
 
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I’m actually really impressed with the tones in that video.

JoratioMumbles said:
I recently acquired an Ampeg PF 500. In my research I came across an Ampeg video where Dino was showing you how to dial in an SVT tone with the PF series of amps. I am a jazz guy so never played through an SVT, let alone a cranked one, but from the examples they were giving it sounded pretty close to my ears.

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