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The Star Treks

Of the Star Trek Series

  • Every Series ROCKS!

    Votes: 27 8.2%

  • Every Series has good and bad episodes

    Votes: 163 49.4%

  • Every Series has good and bad episodes except Enterprise, which sucks

    Votes: 28 8.5%

  • Enterprise and Voyager suck

    Votes: 13 3.9%

  • Enterprise, Voyager and Deep Space Nine suck

    Votes: 19 5.8%

  • The Original Series and TOS Movies are the only good Star Trek

    Votes: 38 11.5%

  • Star Trek sucks, geek boy

    Votes: 11 3.3%

  • Star Trek: Carrots

    Votes: 31 9.4%
  • Total voters
    330
#221
Inkdork said:
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I just finished watching DS9 so all I've got left to see is the animated series.

Each series has had highs and lows, but overall I've enjoyed all of them.... I even enjoyed the two most recent movies, but too me those weren't really Star Trek. Too much action and things going boom.
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Ration the animated series for yourself. There aren't many episodes and it's very good, IMO. Campy and silly but with some good stories. They were able to do and show some cool stuff that just wasn't an option with live action.
 
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#224
So, Amazon Prime now has virtually all of the 20th century Star Trek movies available for free. I personally own VI, but thought I'd give III and V a shot.

Two things:

1. Time has not been kind to those movies.
2. Related to number one above, their heavy handed environmental/political message kinda ruins them.
 
#226
Inkdork said:
I was slow to get into DS9. Like I think I watched almost 2 full seasons before i was actually eager to see what would happen next VS just watching to pass the time.

Jake was totally the new Wesley.
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Jake had his moments, but he was a Wesley for sure. "The Visitor" with Tony Todd playing Jake in an alternate future gets me misty eyed every time. At least Jake grows out of his Wesleyness. Wesley apparently gave up on higher plains of existence with the traveler to rejoin Starfleet, or at least did temporarily to attend Riker and Troi's wedding. Wesley stinks.
 
#227
Gorn said:
Jake had his moments, but he was a Wesley for sure. "The Visitor" with Tony Todd playing Jake in an alternate future gets me misty eyed every time. At least Jake grows out of his Wesleyness. Wesley apparently gave up on higher plains of existence with the traveler to rejoin Starfleet, or at least did temporarily to attend Riker and Troi's wedding. Wesley stinks.
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The Visitor had my room all full of dust too. *wipes eyes* but yeah. Jake did outgrow his Wesley-ness way more than Wesley ever did.

I about died when Worf got his happily ever after only for it to be taken away. He's always been one of my favorites.
 
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#228
I would have voted for, the original series rocks. I'm not a fan of the movies, although I like IV when they save the whales. I watched quite a few of the Next Generation. They were entertaining but nowhere near as brilliant as the original, in my opinion. The original series has some really deep ideas and theories but a lot of people can't get past what they see on the screen.
 
#229
Inkdork said:
The Visitor had my room all full of dust too. *wipes eyes* but yeah. Jake did outgrow his Wesley-ness way more than Wesley ever did.

I about died when Worf got his happily ever after only for it to be taken away. He's always been one of my favorites.
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Jadzia's departure from the show was ridiculous. She left for the same reason as Denise Crosby used for leaving TNG: to move on to bigger and better things with their careers. Didn't quite work out for either of them. I liked Ezri but she didn't need to be there.
 
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#231
So Terry Farrell went on to bigger things, like Becker, LMAO

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Denise Crosby was on TWD:

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#233
Gorn said:
Toootally worth missing out on 6 season's and four movie's worth of royalties.
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In fairness, it's possible she thought it was gonna be 6 more seasons of "Wesley Sue Crusherberry saves the day"...

(I do agree she should have stayed around and had faith in the show, which I hold in high regard as I said upthread; just not crazy for Wescentric episodes, and there were too many in season 1...)
 
#234
HaphAsSard said:
In fairness, it's possible she thought it was gonna be 6 more seasons of "Wesley Sue Crusherberry saves the day"...

(I do agree she should have stayed around and had faith in the show, which I hold in high regard as I said upthread; just not crazy for Wescentric episodes, and there were too many in season 1...)
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I guess the idea was to draw in a younger audience but you're right about season one. Wesley was all over the place.
 
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#235
Gorn said:
I guess the idea was to draw in a younger audience but you're right about season one. Wesley was all over the place.
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Makes sense re tapping into the teen market.
I seem to remember something happened in season one (a writers' strike?) that made them use storylines originally meant to be distributed throughout a longer period of time(, and Wes happened to be featured in a number of those).
Also, as I hinted at, Gene apparently really loved the character.
 
#236
HaphAsSard said:
Makes sense re tapping into the teen market.
I seem to remember something happened in season one (a writers' strike?) that made them use storylines originally meant to be distributed throughout a longer period of time(, and Wes happened to be featured in a number of those).
Also, as I hinted at, Gene apparently really loved the character.
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Never heard about that. Apparently the mediocrity of the first two seasons were because of Gene's creative control. Another guy took control in season 3 and it got much better? I have no idea what the details are. I think @Killed_by_Death has mentioned it?
 
#237
Gorn said:
Never heard about that. Apparently the mediocrity of the first two seasons were because of Gene's creative control. Another guy took control in season 3 and it got much better? I have no idea what the details are. I think @Killed_by_Death has mentioned it?
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Found some trace of what I remembered, not sure as its reliability, source for both was somewhere on TVTropes. I was afraid I was gonna have to fumble through Memory Alpha in search of some info.
Why did people hate Wesley Crusher?
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He nearly killed the show in the fans' eyes, by being an Insufferable Genius and an admitted Canon Sue for Gene Wesley Roddenberry. Whenever the other characters weren't praising him undeservedly, they were rudely dismissing him undeservedly, depending on which one would make him look better. Even worse was the 1987 Writer's Strike, which left the network sitting on a ton of unused "Wesley Saves The Day" scripts as most of what they had to work with. (Ironically, these episodes are generally considered So Okay, It's Average, making him marginally more likable when he's the focus character, as opposed to when he's given such a large role in other episodes.
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[Apparently random capitals are hyperlinks to trope pages on original source.]
 
#239
Gorn said:
Jadzia's departure from the show was ridiculous. She left for the same reason as Denise Crosby used for leaving TNG: to move on to bigger and better things with their careers. Didn't quite work out for either of them. I liked Ezri but she didn't need to be there.
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Ugh Yeah. Ezri is alright but yeah. No strong feelings about her. Meh.
 
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