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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society

You can just call me Greg, it's easier to type!! :D

I will do mate, it's my B'day on Wednesday and I can't see any better way than to do some tube rolling and finally (pun intended:cool:)get the Ampeg sorted as well.

If I like what I'm hearing then possibly looking at Brimar NOS (they seem to get a lot of love especially from Phil at Effectrode) and price wise they are comparable to JJ tubes. The PF50 set I have are from Mike Hill (developed the Marshall 2203!) which I'm 99% sure are JJs that have been extensively tested. Deduced from the fact that they have said that their valves are made in Slovakia.

@Sushi Box FX are these valves suitable for the SH? You searched for 12au7 - Langrex

What a coincidence. My birthday was last week and I just picked up a PF-50T! Loving it so far. Have you noticed an improvement upgrading from stock tubes?

Sorry, little off topic, but I guess I'll add that I was surprised that I like the sound of More through the amp as much as I do for DI. I wondered if adding 2 more tubes from the More would make a difference before the Pre/Power tubes and was happy that you can still hear a real difference in impact, especially on the E string where the low-mid harmonics shine through.
 
Janek couldn't have given better praise to the Finally. Well deserved. Just listening in the mix, when he switches from the JDI (super clean) to the Finally, it's amazing how the tube character comes through. It sounds FAT.
I wonder how overdriven the 12AU7 can get. I'm not interested in full-blown bass OD, I just want some grit.
I put an 12au7 in my v1 Finally. Last night at practice I started to get a hint of breakup at 2 o’clock on the gain setting. It sounded great, even running direct through the pa. I have an extra 12at7 lying around,so I may drop that in to give it a try as well.
 
Just watched the fabulous "Biggest Bass D.I. Shootout Ever" from Janek Gwizdala, I sent him a With Bass In Mind edition Finally v2 and audibly giggled when he said "I don’t think there’s really anything else that comes close to it on the market."

I've had people ask me in the past how it feels to get excluded from conversations about "high-end" gear like Noble and REDDI because of how inexpensive my stuff is, and why I don't focus on high-dollar items to get more clout. The simple reason is that I don't want to. Is my $250 tube D.I. the absolute best sounding thing in the universe? Maybe not. But I firmly believe that it is by far the best sounding thing in anything close to that price range.

When I first started playing guitar (I didn't start on bass), my parents didn't seem to take it seriously and it was considered a phase I would grow out of, so they didn't want to invest in it. I got a hand-me-down acoustic and eventually the cheapest electric and the cheapest amp. If I wanted something nicer, I had to get it myself. I was frustrated that no matter how much I practiced I never seemed to sound good. Would getting a $5000 guitar and a $2000 amp make me a better musician? Of course not. But it would have inspired me to work harder because I would have been able to hear the difference in sound. "Tone is in the fingers" is a great thing to say to people that already have at least mid-grade gear, but for a 12 year-old kid with hand-me-downs and a broken amplifier, it doesn't matter how good your fingers are if the gear isn't doing its job.

So when I design my products, I'm not thinking about how to maximize profits. I'm not using "mojo" components or NOS tubes. I'm using things that I can source reliably and build consistently and quickly. At my day job we call this "design for manufacturability". I value my time both in building and designing, as well as the time and experience it's taken to get me to this level, so I charge what I have to in order to make it worth my time, but I try to keep things priced reasonably because I want EVERYONE to be able to afford it. I believe in my designs and I will always take the same level of care that I believe every "boutique" builder does on every single unit I build, but my goal has always been to be "budget boutique". I don't want to undervalue the work of builders that make high-dollar items, they spend a lot of time on their builds and they make amazing products, but it doesn't have to be high-cost in order to be high-quality.

Anyway. There's my rant for the day. Check out Janek's shootout, it's a fun watch.



I listened to this last night and my main take away is that as bass players we are spoilt for choices!

Having A/B'd the Finally and the Noble you wouldn't guess that one was 5 times the price of the other, when funds allow I'm gonna order up a Finally to keep in my gig bag as a get out of jail free card.

What a coincidence. My birthday was last week and I just picked up a PF-50T! Loving it so far. Have you noticed an improvement upgrading from stock tubes?

Sorry, little off topic, but I guess I'll add that I was surprised that I like the sound of More through the amp as much as I do for DI. I wondered if adding 2 more tubes from the More would make a difference before the Pre/Power tubes and was happy that you can still hear a real difference in impact, especially on the E string where the low-mid harmonics shine through.

Happy Birthday dude! Us Bulls rule!! :hyper:

Being completely honest, this is the second time I've had to change the tubes from new (I tend to crank the power section and tame it with an speaker attenuator so they get some abuse!) and I put in a set from Valve - Tubes for Guitar Amplifiers and they are mostly likely JJs which is what is came with originally i think. It sounded loads better with the new tubes but I'm comparing oranges and apples here.

tHe More definitely adds a little something something to the Ampeg but not quite as noticeable as straight into a class D power amp.

I put an 12au7 in my v1 Finally. Last night at practice I started to get a hint of breakup at 2 o’clock on the gain setting. It sounded great, even running direct through the pa. I have an extra 12at7 lying around, so I may drop that in to give it a try as well.

Let me know how that goes, I wish i had one on hand to roll as well.

Incidentally, I was 90% convinced that my Nano board would just have HX Stomp and More, however I'm playing with both the More and Space Heater atm but the combination together through the Stomp is awesome! Those two together with a little EQ to for tone shaping and I'd happily rock up anywhere with that set up.
 
I put an 12au7 in my v1 Finally. Last night at practice I started to get a hint of breakup at 2 o’clock on the gain setting. It sounded great, even running direct through the pa. I have an extra 12at7 lying around,so I may drop that in to give it a try as well.
I like the 12AT7 in mine, just starts to break up at noon with a hot active bass.
 
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Just watched the fabulous "Biggest Bass D.I. Shootout Ever" from Janek Gwizdala, I sent him a With Bass In Mind edition Finally v2 and audibly giggled when he said "I don’t think there’s really anything else that comes close to it on the market."

I've had people ask me in the past how it feels to get excluded from conversations about "high-end" gear like Noble and REDDI because of how inexpensive my stuff is, and why I don't focus on high-dollar items to get more clout. The simple reason is that I don't want to. Is my $250 tube D.I. the absolute best sounding thing in the universe? Maybe not. But I firmly believe that it is by far the best sounding thing in anything close to that price range.

When I first started playing guitar (I didn't start on bass), my parents didn't seem to take it seriously and it was considered a phase I would grow out of, so they didn't want to invest in it. I got a hand-me-down acoustic and eventually the cheapest electric and the cheapest amp. If I wanted something nicer, I had to get it myself. I was frustrated that no matter how much I practiced I never seemed to sound good. Would getting a $5000 guitar and a $2000 amp make me a better musician? Of course not. But it would have inspired me to work harder because I would have been able to hear the difference in sound. "Tone is in the fingers" is a great thing to say to people that already have at least mid-grade gear, but for a 12 year-old kid with hand-me-downs and a broken amplifier, it doesn't matter how good your fingers are if the gear isn't doing its job.

So when I design my products, I'm not thinking about how to maximize profits. I'm not using "mojo" components or NOS tubes. I'm using things that I can source reliably and build consistently and quickly. At my day job we call this "design for manufacturability". I value my time both in building and designing, as well as the time and experience it's taken to get me to this level, so I charge what I have to in order to make it worth my time, but I try to keep things priced reasonably because I want EVERYONE to be able to afford it. I believe in my designs and I will always take the same level of care that I believe every "boutique" builder does on every single unit I build, but my goal has always been to be "budget boutique". I don't want to undervalue the work of builders that make high-dollar items, they spend a lot of time on their builds and they make amazing products, but it doesn't have to be high-cost in order to be high-quality.

Anyway. There's my rant for the day. Check out Janek's shootout, it's a fun watch.


Love hearing your perspective on this. The Finally and Slampegg have been on my radar for awhile. Hope they don't become unobtanium before I can get my hands on them :roflmao:
 
So is the Finally a tube DI, a preamp, or both?
I use mine the way I would use a studio mic preamp, setting the level of tube saturation and level, there is no particular "amp" character from a gain stage or tone section. I use mine in conjunction with other "amp" character preamps as needed for the song or project.
 
You're going to Love it. Received mine last week, placed it on my simple/compact pedal board (Peterson Tuner, Broughton Comp, Nobelium) and gigged it Friday night. It's pretty darned phenomenal. Even FOH guy wanted to know what it was and gave it a positive compliment.
Received two more compliments on my tone last night, I could hear that it was really rich and full. Kinda reminded me of analog vs digital or vinyl vs CD’s, the sound seemed to fill the venue without being harsh or uncontrolled. It’s been a while since I’ve gotten this many compliments…two gigs in a row, compliments after each. The Nobelium may be my smartest pedal purchase ever. Nothing beats good ol’ fashion tubes. Thanks Sushi Box!
 
If anyone out there is looking for a high-quality passive D.I. to throw into your rig, look no further than @Pedalnetics MiniDI, featuring an Unagi transformer.

MiniDI - Pedalnetics

I don't think I'm technically affiliated, but I got him the transformers for these, so maybe I'm affiliated?
 
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If anyone out there is looking for a high-quality passive D.I. to throw into your rig, look no further than @Pedalnetics MiniDI, featuring an Unagi transformer.

MiniDI - Pedalnetics

I don't think I'm technically affiliated, but I got him the transformers for these, so maybe I'm affiliated?
Just ordered one. Thanks @Pedalnetics

I wanted a “new” passive DI to keep in my bag.
 
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If anyone out there is looking for a high-quality passive D.I. to throw into your rig, look no further than @Pedalnetics MiniDI, featuring an Unagi transformer.

MiniDI - Pedalnetics

I don't think I'm technically affiliated, but I got him the transformers for these, so maybe I'm affiliated?
Technically, yours is a conspiracy to commit DUIs - Direct Unagi Injections
 
A question about Finally.......can the HPF be engaged/ left on independent of the pre, or are both bypassed when the pre is bypassed???

If you bypass the pre, it’s a dry thru, no HPF out to amp, but it still affects the xlr out. So I guess yes to your question. I keep everything on.

The Finally v2 gave me the HPF to my amp that I didn’t know I wanted or needed. I had tried a Broughton before and it didn’t do it for me. This one works so that when I have it engaged, I can boost the bass on my Magellan and it thumps without getting overly muddy as long as I don’t boost it way up.
 
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