XLR has a separate volume control on the side, like Neptunium. Level knob on top is just for the 1/4" out.
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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society
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Ordered! Very excited! Although UK customs will probably screw me and make me wait!
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Well I had every intention of getting all the orders shipped out around 4PM today, then I fell asleep on the couch at 2PM and woke up at 6:15, and our post office closes at 6:00. I guess I should have slept until noon after all. But I will get everything boxed up and get shipping notices out this evening and drop everything off first thing in the morning.
Despite falling asleep on the couch for 4 hours, I've had a productive day. 40 units of Neptunium are now complete, time to box them up and start shipping.
I think you've just proven that more rest will in fact increase your productivity. That said, I vote you take afternoon naps on the couch more often
Oh no !!!
The Nanny naps age is reached.
I think I remember a long time ago that started happening to me.
Congrats to anyone ordering a Neptunium! I think you will be super pleased. I snagged an Underground Accelerator to try out, pretty stoked for that.
Hi Sushi gang!
I'm looking at adding either Elementary or Underground Accelerator to my bento - but I find it hard to grasp the difference. I've tried to search here, but there's a lot of posts...
I'm looking at using it as an always-on preamp, where drive isn't important, but tone-shaping is.
Any pointers to their flavour?
I'm looking at adding either Elementary or Underground Accelerator to my bento - but I find it hard to grasp the difference. I've tried to search here, but there's a lot of posts...
I'm looking at using it as an always-on preamp, where drive isn't important, but tone-shaping is.
Any pointers to their flavour?
Biggest difference is their EQ. Elementary is flat at noon, UA is flat with mids max and treb/bass at min (I.e., you can't boost mids with the UA's EQ). I haven't played an elementary, but the UA works really well as a clean fender-ish preamp, and having the ability to toggle the tonestack off is a nice bonus for flexibility.
Edit-not sure what happened with the quote ???? but my response is the last paragraph directly above.
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Elementary is never flat, it has a permanent scoop around 300Hz.
Hey SB brethren!
Quick question. Has anyone who is super happy with their basic Bass tone from the instrument tried a MORE like this:
Bass > MORE > DI (of your choice)
As my larger board seems to get ever more large...am thinking of planning a great sounding small board. (Generally don't need to use pedals to EQ add tone to my Bass much).
Thank you!
Quick question. Has anyone who is super happy with their basic Bass tone from the instrument tried a MORE like this:
Bass > MORE > DI (of your choice)
As my larger board seems to get ever more large...am thinking of planning a great sounding small board. (Generally don't need to use pedals to EQ add tone to my Bass much).
Thank you!
That’s my main sound. I go :
Bass > Tuner > Empress Bass Comp > C4 > More > HX Stomp > Nobelium
Most of the time, the C4 and HX Stomp are bypassed. Switching on the C4 for synth tones, and HX Stomp for saturation/chorus for a few songs. But most of the time, I only use the comp, the More, the Nobelium.
I see.
So, it seems like the UA can only boost T and B and only cut M, while the Elementary can boost/cut all of them?
Would you say this makes Elementary a bit more flexible as a tone shaper..?
(Speaking of, I think my dream Sushi pedal for my specific use case would be:
- Active EQ and HPF from Venus Z (and always-on),
- Maybe a gain knob, to control the saturation.
- Only jack in, out and power.
- Size of UA/Elementary/etc.
)
Maybe I'll see if I can find the money to buy both the UA and Elementary, and sell off the one I don't end up using.
(I live in Norway, so returns are expensive, heh.)
Both eq are passive, so freq can only be "boosted" relative to each other. IMO, UA is more flexible because 1)it can actually get pretty flat and 2)even when not flat, a flip of the toggle can change it from flat to sculpted. All that said, although overthinking it can become somewhat of a rabbit hole, either one will be tweakable to your liking, unless you NEED active eq with a mid boost. I get that from my amp head elsewhere in my chain if/when needed. Also....in light of shipping costs to a Fiord near you, if you want maximum flexibility, consider the 2 channel beasts that can provide 2 different foot switchable eq curves and/or 2 different degrees of tube saturation. Dreamcatcher gives you a UA (blue channel) and a higher gain, unique circuit. Detective gives you both high and lower gain variants of the HiWatt inspired circuit.....but both do take up more space and eat more electron flow. No bad choices there. Even if you pick the one you simply prefer the esthetics of, the sound will make it a winner. I can make mine overlap a lot. The only reason I have >1 is that I have 2 boards and a micro pedal case; they each feature 1 sushi preamp .
The difference in sound is more than how the EQ works. The fact that one is Fender-ish (UA) and the other is based on a Hiwatt (Elementary) makes for a very different tone even with the EQ flat-ish on most.I see.
So, it seems like the UA can only boost T and B and only cut M, while the Elementary can boost/cut all of them?
Would you say this makes Elementary a bit more flexible as a tone shaper..?
(Speaking of, I think my dream Sushi pedal for my specific use case would be:
- Active EQ and HPF from Venus Z (and always-on),
- Maybe a gain knob, to control the saturation.
- Only jack in, out and power.
- Size of UA/Elementary/etc.
Maybe I'll see if I can find the money to buy both the UA and Elementary, and sell off the one I don't end up using.
(I live in Norway, so returns are expensive, heh.)
There is an excellent review on the Elementary on the tube by two blokes. From that review my takeaway was that it has a nice mid scoop (as mentioned by the sushi chef a few posts back) but heft authority in the lows and a stingy push in the high minds. All in all I thought it was a bit more rock oriented and sounded brilliant in that review. But maybe some Elementary owners can provide first hand insights. The Elementary is high on my wish list.
I don't have an elementary, but it's the same circuit as the blue channel in my Detective. It sounds great, but its eq is less flexible than the UA because there's no getting around its mid scoop. It excels when the upper register is prominent. I think any of these preamps can sound great in almost any musical setting depending on how they are set and what else is in the chain. There are differences, but in a mix, in the end, it's simply thick, tasty bass
Thanks for your responses!
Yeah, I've seen all videos I could find on both pedals on YouTube. But an issue is that I haven't seen them together, and that most people don't give you the clean tone to compare with.
I'll probably end up being pretty happy with either! But I have had a Fender Bassman (135) as my main amp in the past, and been very happy with it – and I don't play rock (more muted P-bass with flats-stuff). So maybe the UA is the better bet for me?
I do have room for "one overdrive and one preamp" on my board – so I did consider using those two slots for one larger Sushi box. However, when I purchased my chorus pedal from Analogman, I also added a Sun Face to the order, thinking I'd give it a go, and maybe sell it to my band-mate. But "sadly" I kinda dug it for bass, so I think that will take up the "drive slot".
So that's why I looked at the UA and Elementary (with an added bonus that they can saturate a bit if I want an alternate drive sound).
(To give some more context to my signal chain: My board has outgrown the power my Noble can provide, so I'm selling it and seeing if I can recreate some of the sound in other ways. Which amp I use vary so much that I'm not basing my sound on the amp – I want to do it all from a compact pedalboard. But I also want to run things in stereo this time around! I did consider going for 2x Finally under the board (2x Neptunium isn't practical). But what's currently leading is going for a Sushi Box pre as an always-on tone-shaper up top plus a Lightning Boy 23Fe, and then end up in a Walrus Audio Canvas Stereo DI. That one is supposed to be pretty sterile (so that's why I'm trying to add some flavour with 23Fe and Sushi), but it's very compact, and importantly: Can sum the thru signal.)
Yeah, I've seen all videos I could find on both pedals on YouTube. But an issue is that I haven't seen them together, and that most people don't give you the clean tone to compare with.
I'll probably end up being pretty happy with either! But I have had a Fender Bassman (135) as my main amp in the past, and been very happy with it – and I don't play rock (more muted P-bass with flats-stuff). So maybe the UA is the better bet for me?
I do have room for "one overdrive and one preamp" on my board – so I did consider using those two slots for one larger Sushi box. However, when I purchased my chorus pedal from Analogman, I also added a Sun Face to the order, thinking I'd give it a go, and maybe sell it to my band-mate. But "sadly" I kinda dug it for bass, so I think that will take up the "drive slot".
So that's why I looked at the UA and Elementary (with an added bonus that they can saturate a bit if I want an alternate drive sound).
(To give some more context to my signal chain: My board has outgrown the power my Noble can provide, so I'm selling it and seeing if I can recreate some of the sound in other ways. Which amp I use vary so much that I'm not basing my sound on the amp – I want to do it all from a compact pedalboard. But I also want to run things in stereo this time around! I did consider going for 2x Finally under the board (2x Neptunium isn't practical). But what's currently leading is going for a Sushi Box pre as an always-on tone-shaper up top plus a Lightning Boy 23Fe, and then end up in a Walrus Audio Canvas Stereo DI. That one is supposed to be pretty sterile (so that's why I'm trying to add some flavour with 23Fe and Sushi), but it's very compact, and importantly: Can sum the thru signal.)
Hey, thanks for the reply Averell! What Bass do you use? I ask because I'd be using a Passive P Bass, so the MORE would be like a first in line buffer for my signal as well. I'm guessing that the main difference is just some depth to the sound?
I'm tempted to pick up one of the new MORE...I can't lie hahahaha
