JohnK_10 nailed it. In the new layout, a top/fifth vent slot just shows more tube socket unfortunately...
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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society
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Exactly that. When I did the latest redesigns I needed more room on the circuit boards for the larger components so I came up with the new "upside-down tube" layout to maximize available space, and that shifted the location of the tube. I could have moved all the slots down instead of just getting rid of the top one, but in most cases that starts to interfere with the labeling of the pedals, and I consider that to be more important than showing the most amount of tube. Sorry
The exception for the single-tube pedals is Finally, which was already so tightly packed that I didn't have room to turn the tube upside down.
Graphic representation of the above. Left was the latest version before the redesign, this unit was built around May 2024; right was designed this past summer and built last week. And not for nothing, but the design on the right took a lot more work and as an engineer I'm incredibly proud of it.
Hmm...for some some reason I dig that sexy dial on the More.
A visual for how much awesome sauce you need to deliver?
What is the default tube in recent versions of the UA? I was swapping a bunch of tubes between this pedal and a Traynor Darkhorse (that uses a 12au7 as a power tube) and don’t remember what I started with.
I believe the UA has always shipped with a 12AX7 by default, as has the majority of Sushi Box pedals over time... some of the few exceptions that don't come stock as an AX include the WBIM version of the Finally (which comes with an AU), and the MORE (which uses an AU and an AT)
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I guess if you hung me up by my feet from the ceiling I wouldn't care if I could look out of 4 windows or 5 windows either.
All the Sushi Box pedals look great anyway, and now we can easily spot what model it is by the tube slots.
Cheers
Mick
Correct, the only things that I don't ship with 12AX7s are the WBIM version of Finally (12AU7) and More (12AU7 and 12AT7).
If I replace the 12ax7 in my Finally with an 12au7 (like in the WBIM version), should I also adjust the internal trim pots?
Depends on where you currently keep your knobs. If you typically have the knobs (particularly the gain) turned down pretty low, you'll probably be fine and you'll just end up bringing the gain knob up. If you tend to need a really strong output like if you're pushing a power amp or something, sure you might need to bump the trimpots up a little.
The intention of the trimpots wasn't to be a "bias" for the tubes, it's just supposed to make the controls on the face feel more natural and useful. If you can't turn the volume up past 9 o'clock without feeling like it's too loud, you can adjust the trimpot to get a better sweep of volumes on the external knob.
JazznFunk
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Revisiting this after a month and change, when it went on the back burner after getting walloped by Helene.
Even after tube-swapping the MORE with new Mullard tubes (detailed above) the issue remained, even after adding a power conditioner to my setup and running all power supplies off of it. As a last resort, I routed everything differently to put the MORE at the very beginning of the signal chain, to remove all other elements of noise or interference from elsewhere ahead of it. After hours of play and burn in..... the issue didn't occur, which confirms why I didn't seem to be experiencing it when the MORE was totally removed and used alone, off my board. There is still something that is microphonic with the pedal, since I can hear it thru the amp when I tap on the chassis, but the 'squeal' issue is not there. Something else on my board apparently wasn't playing nice. I suspect it's some element of noise that was getting amplified even more by the MORE, but wasn't the MORE itself. I know folks like to play around with pedals in different areas of their signal chain. It seems whatever my issues are, the MORE likes to be the first thing in line.
I had a similar issue with MORE and a BassDude with the Emma Discumbobulator v3 envelope filter.
When the MORE or Bassdude was placed before the Emma, there was an odd interaction that produced some squeeling. Even when using separate isolated power supplies on 2 different outlets. If I placed the MORE or Bassdude after the Emma, there was no issue.
The Emma is the only pedal that I've had this happen do, no issues when running those before an Iron Ether XD, Broughton Joshwah, or 3Leaf Proton.
I asked Nathan about it, and he was stumped. On their own they were great, no issues, but when placed before the Emma, squeel city. The Sushibox pedals weren't the issue, they play nicely in every other scenario.
I work in IT, and had an issue once where an HP printer didn't like a Cisco switch. Countless hours troubleshooting, replacement network card for the printer, switch worked fine with other devices on the same port. Finally put a dummy switch in between them and it started working. Some sort of incompatibility between the chipsets on each device. Some things just aren't meant to be explained.
“For every mystery, there is someone, somewhere, who knows the truth. Perhaps that someone is watching. Perhaps… it's you”
There's no mystery why certain tube pedals make certain sounds. It's the tube gnomes inside the tubes whining and complaining.
Life is full of those perplexing Dicumbobulations, Life is not a game of perfect but more problem solving.
That knob on the MORE is very cool.
The new MORE has only 4 slots per side so a big knob won't even cover the slots, unless you get an even bigger knob.
Yes it is. And if your goal is to still get the Sansamp sound to FOH, you’re in luck. The Bass driver sends its emulation signal out the xlr and 1/4 out. So 1/4 into Finally, Finally xlr to FOH and you get the Sansamp sound plus the tube sound together. Win.
The only trick is if you also go to an amp and don’t want the Sansamp sound to amp. You could still use the parallel out of the Sansamp, but then you wouldn’t get the tube sound from Finally. If you don’t care about the tube sound from Finally, you’re good. You could run the Finally in front of the Sansamp and use its xlr out, but I didn’t think that sounded as good.
