Appreciate the response Jack. That's what I'm thinking.If you don't need the HPF, I'd say go for it. The transformer difference is subtle enough to not be worth caring about.
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Appreciate the response Jack. That's what I'm thinking.If you don't need the HPF, I'd say go for it. The transformer difference is subtle enough to not be worth caring about.
Jack
I have a first run v1 with a Jensen that sounds fantastic so have never felt the need to compare as to my ears it sounds just as nice as my Countryman Type 85 or RNDI with minute differences. I also have a Pedalnetics DIm Stick that sounds fine as well.Is there a general consensus that a Finally v1 can sound as good as a Finally v3?
I know it doesn't have a HPF and the output has some difference to isolate the signal and the unagi transformer. I already have a HPF and my only performance/usage is using IEM's. So would a Jensen sound much different than the Unagi?
Agreed. I've had both and couldn't hear the difference.If you don't need the HPF, I'd say go for it. The transformer difference is subtle enough to not be worth caring about.
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Good advice Micheal, i definitely appreciate it. I have read through most of the thread. Hence my interest. Just wanted to see if anyone had an opinion.Agreed. I've had both and couldn't hear the difference.
Waldo, if you go back through this thread, (and you should, because many of the things you're asking about have been discussed), you'll read that Nathan both chose the LB for V1, and designed the Unagi for V2 and V3, for transparency and full frequency response- not for any noticeable coloration.
If you need the HPF, and it's a good idea for most live performance, simply add a HPF-equipped pedal, like those from Broughton, in front of the Finally V1.
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Mine (V2) says "HPF" in the up position, and "Flat" in the down.Hi, I have a question: is the HPF setting on the Finally activated when the switch is in the up or down position?
The Finally is a fun pedal when you start playing with the gain and level settings. Even more fun when you start rolling tubes!UPS showed up at 7:30 last night. I ended up plugging in my new to me Finally v1 around 8:30. 1st impressions are good. I like how i can adjust the gain and how it reacts to different pedal combinations. I'm looking forward to trying it through the PA tomorrow night at rehearsal.
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That's something that will end up happening I'm sure. Im thinking about trying polar opposites. Something super clean and something high gain. Though it is definitely something I'm not knowledgeable about. There's no better time than now to learn.The Finally is a fun pedal when you start playing with the gain and level settings. Even more fun when you start rolling tubes!
Differences between specific brands of tube will generally be so minimal as to be lost in a mix (but perhaps fun to cork sniff). However, differences between tube types in the 12ax family that have different gain structures (12ax7, 12at7, 12au7, 5751) will be significant and much more worth exploring to see how clean vs dirty you prefer, as well as to adjust how much of its gain curve is on the clean side before the heavy overtones come into play. I have accumulated a bunch of tubes and tried many.......as an eg, the difference between a NOS "vintage" Raytheon 12ax7 and a new JJ 12ax7 disappears when I close my eyes, but popping in any 12au7 and running it cleaner at lower gain changes the character of a sushi pedal.Anyone have recs for NOS tubes to roll?
Mine has a 12ax7wb in it and I do like how it sounds. However I do want to put a 12au7 in soon since that's the tube used in the original design. I'm curious to hear how it sounds with the gain dimed but still having a clean but overtone rich sound.Differences between specific brands of tube will generally be so minimal as to be lost in a mix (but perhaps fun to cork sniff). However, differences between tube types in the 12ax family that have different gain structures (12ax7, 12at7, 12au7, 5751) will be significant and much more worth exploring to see how clean vs dirty you prefer, as well as to adjust how much of its gain curve is on the clean side before the heavy overtones come into play. I have accumulated a bunch of tubes and tried many.......as an eg, the difference between a NOS "vintage" Raytheon 12ax7 and a new JJ 12ax7 disappears when I close my eyes, but popping in any 12au7 and running it cleaner at lower gain changes the character of a sushi pedal.
I concur that this was my experience. I have a collection of vintage and NOS tubes and heard minute to no difference from the stock JJ 12AX7 in my trials. Different values changed the saturation point or amount but the character stayed virtually the same. I liked a 12ax7 in my Finally. YMMVDifferences between specific brands of tube will generally be so minimal as to be lost in a mix (but perhaps fun to cork sniff). However, differences between tube types in the 12ax family that have different gain structures (12ax7, 12at7, 12au7, 5751) will be significant and much more worth exploring to see how clean vs dirty you prefer, as well as to adjust how much of its gain curve is on the clean side before the heavy overtones come into play. I have accumulated a bunch of tubes and tried many.......as an eg, the difference between a NOS "vintage" Raytheon 12ax7 and a new JJ 12ax7 disappears when I close my eyes, but popping in any 12au7 and running it cleaner at lower gain changes the character of a sushi pedal.
How much gain you'll need to push your amp into the dirt zone depends on your amp and how hot your bass output is. Stock More has plenty of gain on tap and IIRC swapping the tube for a 12ax7 increases potential gain to about THIRTY dB!!! All that said, if grit/tube harmonics +/- OD is the goal, an Underground Accelerator or Elementary seem like better options. Either one can drive your amp harder and/or add it's own flavour if desired, for not much more coin than a More. Jus' sayin'Anybody try using a More in front of an amp that already has a tube preamp (I'm sure someone has)? Basically using it to drive the onboard tube to distort more than usual? What was your experience? I've seen people say that the More is pretty clean and that you have to swap out the stock tube with a different one to make it a little dirty. Would doing this be beneficial to drive the existing preamp even more or would the stock tube be fine?