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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society

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labeledbass said:
I'm going to be wrong with the attenuator idea, An fx Loop would probably be the only way to keep Unity gain when the pedal is off and then on . Is there something in front of the pedal causing this? Is your other Sushi pedal the same non X tube? I'm getting a Wattson by the end of the week, been waiting a long time. @Sushi Box FX is the impedance different between his two pedal or is it the xtra tube doing something. I thought attenuator at first, but it would be super quiet when disengaged, you really would need a FX Loop if you could not remedy the problem before the pedal
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It's just the Dr Wattson that is high output, it's a "proper" preamp, with an output level sufficient to drive a power amp. Mine is a "mini tubes" but I don't believe that makes a difference. I can get the Slampegg at unity in whatever gain position I like, but the Doc is just too hot.

In Nate's words:

Dr. Wattson is definitely the highest output preamp I make. London Underground is loud, but not that loud. Sunnday Drive is fairly loud, louder than London Drive I think, but maybe a little less than Dr. Wattson.
 
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labeledbass said:
Are you planning on adjusting it every time you engage the pedal? Fx loop with makeup gain would make it one click and done, albeit more expensive. Looks like I'm going to be in the same predicament
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I'll be using the Dr Wattson as a character pedal (for entire songs, not as a boost), and will set the attenuator once to adjust to match the overall level of my pedalboard. I will have to switch both on/off. The Fx Loop, if I get one, will have other purposes :)
 
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Btbp said:
I've been in and out of the thread, I may have missed the @Sonicblaze demo of the Robot Butterfly options, or is it pending?
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Sushi Box FX said:
An excellent question, I believe it's still pending. @Sonicblaze any updates on that?
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I apologize guys, I'm having a heck of a time getting Reaper to behave with my output/input. I've been taking Sushi's demo clip to feed-out through the Robot and back in, and it's been ignoring the loop and just feeding the output straight back in.
If I don't get it fixed today, I'll snag a second laptop and just use totally different devices/stations for each function.

But this does open a good question: @Btbp what would you want to see from a multi-fx demo perspective? Are you alright with audio clips and me just messing with knobs, or do you want a sexy hand-model video so you can see what knobs do what?
 
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Quick update on the SVT (which I've given the working title of "Svetlana"): The midrange frequency selector was giving me trouble. Ampeg uses a custom 4-tap inductor which I was able to emulate by using multiple single inductors, so we'll see how that sounds. But they also use a 5-position rotary switch, which is not common in any size that really works for me, so I'm using the same 8-position rotary switch I use on Robot Butterfly and I've added 3 more frequencies to the selector. Now to see if this thing will fit in the box :p
 
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Sushi Box FX said:
Quick update on the SVT (which I've given the working title of "Svetlana"): The midrange frequency selector was giving me trouble. Ampeg uses a custom 4-tap inductor which I was able to emulate by using multiple single inductors, so we'll see how that sounds. But they also use a 5-position rotary switch, which is not common in any size that really works for me, so I'm using the same 8-position rotary switch I use on Robot Butterfly and I've added 3 more frequencies to the selector. Now to see if this thing will fit in the box :p
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Based on that 5-position rotary, are you using the schematics for the SVT-CL?
 
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Pedalnetics said:
I apologize guys, I'm having a heck of a time getting Reaper to behave with my output/input. I've been taking Sushi's demo clip to feed-out through the Robot and back in, and it's been ignoring the loop and just feeding the output straight back in.
If I don't get it fixed today, I'll snag a second laptop and just use totally different devices/stations for each function.

But this does open a good question: @Btbp what would you want to see from a multi-fx demo perspective? Are you alright with audio clips and me just messing with knobs, or do you want a sexy hand-model video so you can see what knobs do what?
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Totally understand and no pressure. I thought I might have missed something, I took a kyuukei from the thread for a bit.

I'm sure I'm not the only who would interested in this so others can chime in

For me, nothing fancy, simple audio clips.

I have my own 8 of the 16 that I would like to hear demoed, especially those (like Modulated Reverb, Shimmer Reverb, etc.) that are not as cut and dry (like Chorus, Phaser) where words only go so far so as to describe what they actually sound like, and for bass.

Plus whichever, if any, have been since added to the list per the webpage, if they have been "I have a large number of patches that haven't been thoroughly tested and when I finally get around to testing them I can add them to the list as well." .

I had my list but I have to dig it out......
 
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Sushi Box FX said:
Quick update on the SVT (which I've given the working title of "Svetlana"): The midrange frequency selector was giving me trouble. Ampeg uses a custom 4-tap inductor which I was able to emulate by using multiple single inductors, so we'll see how that sounds. But they also use a 5-position rotary switch, which is not common in any size that really works for me, so I'm using the same 8-position rotary switch I use on Robot Butterfly and I've added 3 more frequencies to the selector. Now to see if this thing will fit in the box :p
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kranahan said:
Based on that 5-position rotary, are you using the schematics for the SVT-CL?
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@Sushi Box FX I thought you were doing SVP-CL pre, how hard, if at all possible, could you add the Ultra Low selector on the SVP-CL (and I mean the 1-5 rotary, not button on the head). There's a couple "voices" in there that basically sum up a lot of Ampegs main rock models, especially 1 and 3
 
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Sushi Box FX said:
Yessir. Most reliable one I could find, figured it would do the trick.
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I guess we'll have to see how it sounds! As you probably already know, vintage ones are waaaaay more sought after. Although I do like the gain and master set up on the CL. You can dime the Master and use the gain for volume so you get power tube saturation at any volume.
 
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kranahan said:
I guess we'll have to see how it sounds! As you probably already know, vintage ones are waaaaay more sought after. Although I do like the gain and master set up on the CL. You can dime the Master and use the gain for volume so you get power tube saturation at any volume.
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One could, if say, they made a pedal that emulated the power stage of a tube amplifier dot dot dot dot
 
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labeledbass said:
@Sushi Box FX I thought you were doing SVP-CL pre, how hard, if at all possible, could you add the Ultra Low selector on the SVP-CL. There's a couple "voices" in there that basically sum up a lot of Ampegs main rock models, especially 1 and 3
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Alas I don't have an enclosure design yet that can handle 4 tubes, or a reliable way to power it. I'd have to make sure my high voltage supply could handle the load.

kranahan said:
I guess we'll have to see how it sounds! As you probably already know, vintage ones are waaaaay more sought after. Although I do like the gain and master set up on the CL. You can dime the Master and use the gain for volume so you get power tube saturation at any volume.
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Of course, but the only vintage schematic I could find (1971) used a ton of tubes. Four 12AX7, a 12DW7 and a 6C4 just in the preamp. The CL is just a pair of 12AX7. The voicing is similar, they just slimmed it down.
 
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