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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society

@Btbp @letsgethandsome Here's round 1 of Demos. Everything but 2, Arpeggio & Modulated Delay. Arpeggio needs it's own simplier loop, and MD sounded wrong to me, I'm thinking somehow I recorded a Flanger instead to that file.
First track is the demo loop I fed through it.
All the other tracks are labeled of what effect they were. The mix knob is ~65%, so favoriting the effect sound coming through. Through the demo, I play with all 3 of the control knobs (@Sushi Box FX is working on remembering what knobs did what to get that to me). So you will hear some pretty gnarly stuff because really, you'd normally not be messing with knobs while playing that much; changing delay parameters while playing creates some fun artifacts of the delay length/timing changing, and obviously pitch effects arn't in-key across the whole sweep :) (and once or twice I overdrove my input and it got gritty, I'll be rerecording those too)

Thanks for this. Those pitch effects are trippy!
 
Thanks for this. Those pitch effects are trippy!

The whole thing kinda made me feel wobbly
For the straight Pitch Shift effect, each control knob controls its own pitch. So really, it's 3 pitch shifts in 1 patch. I may have been having a bit of fun with that one to fully show the range sweeps.

Round 2 recordings I plan to find a setting for each I love, and record just that. But I know either way, someone would have wanted the other: record the best vs demo all the tweakability, that's the one pain for MultiFX units.
 
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I like how you added the outline, or contour, can't tell which, to the letters, layered nice as well - what software do you use?
Thanks :) It's an outline, I use CorelDraw for my artwork.

For the straight Pitch Shift effect, each control knob controls its own pitch. So really, it's 3 pitch shifts in 1 patch. I may have been having a bit of fun with that one to fully show the range sweeps.

Round 2 recordings I plan to find a setting for each I love, and record just that. But I know either way, someone would have wanted the other: record the best vs demo all the tweakability, that's the one pain for MultiFX units.
Not that you would know this because I didn't give you that list of controls like I said I would :sorry: It's actually two pitch shifts, the middle knob blends between the two. On guitar I usually use it as an octave up and an octave down, with the blend around 9:00 so I mostly get octave down but a little bit of the octave up. I like to run it after a fuzz, with the octaves more balanced it gets a nice organ-esque sound.

And I will get the list together soon, maybe tomorrow, so you actually know what all the controls are for these effects :P
 
I promised I'd report back on further testing with the Edison, and I had a chance to dig into that further last night. I feel a bit bad about posting about the Edison in @Sushi Box FX's thread, but seeing as how the Westinghouse isn't out yet and there's been healthy discussion about the Edison so far and several people seem to be curious...

As I suspected, I didn't quite have the Edison at unity the first time, which is why it was really affecting the way the C4 sounded when it was Edison > C4. With the volume matched much better this time, I plugged the C4 and Edison into my Stomp's FX loop to easily play around with order and made a quick audio loop at the front of the Stomp's signal chain. That made it easy to test the order of effects with the Edison before and after different different things.

Recording into Cubase, I also noticed something curious... It appears that maybe the Edison has some HPF characteristics going on, or maybe that's just the characteristics of tube compression? (I don't have a ton of experience with tubes) Check out the screen grabs below to see what I'm talking about. While other effects weren't as drastically compressed as the Filter, this phenomenon was pretty standard across effects aside from the synth. Surprisingly for how big the sound is, the C4 seemed less affected by the Edison's compression as it already seemed to have a similar compression on it's own. (?... just looking at the visuals anyway)

Summary:
I do have preferences regarding signal order and ideas for use, but I'll refrain from expressing any preferences on order so it doesn't color anyone's personal opinion... I'll just say that I do like the tube warmth that the Edison adds, and it seems like it could be nice almost anywhere in the signal chain, so I do think I'm going to stick with the Westinghouse for my March order!

5sg.

1 - Clean bass (main audio loop)
2 - Bass > Edison
3 - Envelope Filter
4 - Edison > Filter
5 - Filter > Edison
6 - Octaver
7 - Edison > Octaver
8 - Octaver > Edison
9 - Light Overdrive
10 - Edison > Drive
11 - Drive > Edison
12 - Dimension Chorus
13 - Edison > Chorus
14 - Chorus > Dimension
15 - C4 synth
16 - Edison > Synth
17 - Synth > Edison



01-bass.jpg


02-Edison.jpg


03-filter.jpg


04-edison-filter.jpg


05-filter-edison.jpg


06-C4.jpg


07-edison-C4.jpg


08-C4-Edison.jpg
 
I promised I'd report back on further testing with the Edison, and I had a chance to dig into that further last night. I feel a bit bad about posting about the Edison in @Sushi Box FX's thread, but seeing as how the Westinghouse isn't out yet and there's been healthy discussion about the Edison so far and several people seem to be curious...

As I suspected, I didn't quite have the Edison at unity the first time, which is why it was really affecting the way the C4 sounded when it was Edison > C4. With the volume matched much better this time, I plugged the C4 and Edison into my Stomp's FX loop to easily play around with order and made a quick audio loop at the front of the Stomp's signal chain. That made it easy to test the order of effects with the Edison before and after different different things.

Recording into Cubase, I also noticed something curious... It appears that maybe the Edison has some HPF characteristics going on, or maybe that's just the characteristics of tube compression? (I don't have a ton of experience with tubes) Check out the screen grabs below to see what I'm talking about. While other effects weren't as drastically compressed as the Filter, this phenomenon was pretty standard across effects aside from the synth. Surprisingly for how big the sound is, the C4 seemed less affected by the Edison's compression as it already seemed to have a similar compression on it's own. (?... just looking at the visuals anyway)

Summary:
I do have preferences regarding signal order and ideas for use, but I'll refrain from expressing any preferences on order so it doesn't color anyone's personal opinion... I'll just say that I do like the tube warmth that the Edison adds, and it seems like it could be nice almost anywhere in the signal chain, so I do think I'm going to stick with the Westinghouse for my March order!

5sg.

1 - Clean bass (main audio loop)
2 - Bass > Edison
3 - Envelope Filter
4 - Edison > Filter
5 - Filter > Edison
6 - Octaver
7 - Edison > Octaver
8 - Octaver > Edison
9 - Light Overdrive
10 - Edison > Drive
11 - Drive > Edison
12 - Dimension Chorus
13 - Edison > Chorus
14 - Chorus > Dimension
15 - C4 synth
16 - Edison > Synth
17 - Synth > Edison



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Great post!

I tended to like the Edison first before the effect in all scenarios except the Chorus and C4. There I liked the Edison second.
 
Thanks :) It's an outline, I use CorelDraw for my artwork.
Sweet! Its a good program, focused for specific areas, but you're knee deep in said areas. Does your UV printer play nice with it? or is it create/export/import kind of thing? still pondering the UV, all my printer friends say if you don't clean the darn things every day, of general use, it could land in trouble. I do clean my lasers but not every day, wondering if they make something that cleans itself, to a degree.
 
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Sweet! Its a good program, focused for specific areas, but you're knee deep in said areas. Does your UV printer play nice with it? or is it create/export/import kind of thing? still pondering the UV, all my printer friends say if you don't clean the darn things every day, of general use, it could land in trouble. I do clean my lasers but not every day, wondering if they make something that cleans itself, to a degree.
The software that controls the UV printer is a bit clunky, I'm sure a nicer printer would have better software. The best results I've gotten have been exporting my artwork from CorelDraw as a PDF, which the printer software can open and retains scaling. I have to export all the text as curves though, it does weird things when I try to keep text in the files.

I promised I'd report back on further testing with the Edison, and I had a chance to dig into that further last night. I feel a bit bad about posting about the Edison in @Sushi Box FX's thread, but seeing as how the Westinghouse isn't out yet and there's been healthy discussion about the Edison so far and several people seem to be curious...

As I suspected, I didn't quite have the Edison at unity the first time, which is why it was really affecting the way the C4 sounded when it was Edison > C4. With the volume matched much better this time, I plugged the C4 and Edison into my Stomp's FX loop to easily play around with order and made a quick audio loop at the front of the Stomp's signal chain. That made it easy to test the order of effects with the Edison before and after different different things.

Recording into Cubase, I also noticed something curious... It appears that maybe the Edison has some HPF characteristics going on, or maybe that's just the characteristics of tube compression? (I don't have a ton of experience with tubes) Check out the screen grabs below to see what I'm talking about. While other effects weren't as drastically compressed as the Filter, this phenomenon was pretty standard across effects aside from the synth. Surprisingly for how big the sound is, the C4 seemed less affected by the Edison's compression as it already seemed to have a similar compression on it's own. (?... just looking at the visuals anyway)

Summary:
I do have preferences regarding signal order and ideas for use, but I'll refrain from expressing any preferences on order so it doesn't color anyone's personal opinion... I'll just say that I do like the tube warmth that the Edison adds, and it seems like it could be nice almost anywhere in the signal chain, so I do think I'm going to stick with the Westinghouse for my March order!

5sg.

1 - Clean bass (main audio loop)
2 - Bass > Edison
3 - Envelope Filter
4 - Edison > Filter
5 - Filter > Edison
6 - Octaver
7 - Edison > Octaver
8 - Octaver > Edison
9 - Light Overdrive
10 - Edison > Drive
11 - Drive > Edison
12 - Dimension Chorus
13 - Edison > Chorus
14 - Chorus > Dimension
15 - C4 synth
16 - Edison > Synth
17 - Synth > Edison



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That was SUPER helpful, thanks for putting that together :) I haven't had much time to play lately, let alone do demos, so I appreciate the time you put into that :)
 
Great post!

I tended to like the Edison first before the effect in all scenarios except the Chorus and C4. There I liked the Edison second.

This is pretty much where I ended up as well, but I'll need to mess with the Westinghouse/C4 order a bit more. The initial idea was to use the WH at the front of my chain to adjust for varying levels among basses, but I do like the sound of the Edison after the C4 quite a bit better. I do have a Symmetry before my C4 that I've been using for that purpose though, so maybe the "compromise" is comp > C4 > WH > [signal chain]? :)

Really interesting to see the visual on that. With the Tesla tube that I had in mine, the low end bloomed and gave the impression of a bigger low end. That may not have been true in the end!

Right? I was a bit surprised by the visuals as well.

That was SUPER helpful, thanks for putting that together :) I haven't had much time to play lately, let alone do demos, so I appreciate the time you put into that :)

Happy to post it! Diving into it last night really helped me make the decision to stick with the Westinghouse for my March order (I'll submit a change order through your site, as it's currently a PA placeholder). Figured I'd post here, because there has been a lot of discussion about the Edison/Westinghouse. Looking forward to hearing how the voltage control affects the sound of the WH!

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