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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society
- Thread starter kranahan
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So I apologize in advance for possibly tainting the reputation of SushiBox FX with my technical ignorance, but Seth of Night Owl Industries just accused me of slander on Reverb. I pulled the listing and will be keeping the Westie, but does his description of the Westinghouse sound correct?:
"Plate voltage on an ef86 is 220 volts, which is not present anywhere in this pedal. They just stole my voltage tripler, and allowed for 12v input, which still maxes it out at 36v, so the description is slanderous to my product."
"Plate voltage on an ef86 is 220 volts, which is not present anywhere in this pedal. They just stole my voltage tripler, and allowed for 12v input, which still maxes it out at 36v, so the description is slanderous to my product."
That is incorrect. I use a "nixie style" SMPS, which is capable of 400V but that I have limited to 235V or so, depending on version. In retrospect it was inconsiderate of me to mention the Edison in my advertising and I regret that, but Westinghouse is not an exact clone of Edison, I do use a high voltage SMPS for the plate voltage instead of the voltage tripler.
On that note, if anyone is looking to sell their Westinghouse and doesn't want to deal with Reverb, I will take back any Westinghouse for 100% store credit. I never meant to offend or discredit Night Owl, and I'm sorry others are facing the brunt of his accusations instead of me.
Accusing pedal users of slander? Classy guy.
Edit : pros and cons of builders basing things on others is clearly a valid discusson, done properly.
Edit : pros and cons of builders basing things on others is clearly a valid discusson, done properly.
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I'm not encouraging argument by any means, but this is a voltage reading (240.4VDC) from the inside of my personal Westinghouse. I don't expect that he would ever want to talk to me, but I would be happy to share my schematic if he ever did.
I get where he's coming from. I'm sure he's upset about me cloning his pedal, it's technically legal and there isn't anything you can do besides politely ask people not to. But it was absolutely wrong of me to mention the name of his pedal in my advertising and I regret doing that. I've already edited my listings on the website to be more careful of that. I don't condone attacking users that are selling pedals secondhand, he could have gone about that in a much more friendly way, but I understand why he is upset, and it is completely my fault.
Hes not stupid, he knows how to contact you, going after the end user is well, it paints a picture for sure. Hopefully this resolves without any hurt feelings
Sorry for the trouble. I used the phrase “non-starved plate” in my product description which may have set him off.
You actually aren't the first one for him to come after, it seems like this morning was when he first discovered the existence of the Westinghouse, and now I guess he's going after every one he can find, just like Bill Finnegan did with all the Klones on eBay.
Ah, yup. I type too slow so I take forever to get replies done. Well put.
Maybe he was hungry and out of food, makes me grouchy too.
He could at least get his facts straight before attacking.
My final comment on all this, which of course I do hope gets sorted out positively for all folks involved:
Space Heater rocks!
Space Heater rocks!
Speaking of. So is the October build the updated space heater? I forget exactly what the updates are for all the pedals but The new one maybe has a trim pot so the output volume can be a little less? Or am I way off base there I’m not sure? I know these were covered in the thread somewhere but I don’t remember…
Also, no drama… But I do love my Westinghouse. Sorry Nathan it’s not coming back to you
Alright, this is the last post you all are getting out of me tonight, and pedals aren't getting finished if I'm onTB all night 
Really the biggest update I made is one I've kept a pseudo-secret while I evaluated if it was going to be something I move over to 100% or not, but I have alluded to it as "improved manufacturability". Building pedals takes time. Building more pedals takes more time. One of the most tedious and time-consuming parts of pedal building is populating circuit boards. When I first started I did it by hand, then moved on to solder paste stencils and a reflow oven. This was approximately 10x faster than doing it by hand. The only way I could build them any faster was if I used a pick-and-place machine. Unfortunately even the most affordable pick-and-place machines, which are too small for my uses, start at $3k, which is a big investment.
So in June I started looking into having my boards assembled by pick-and-place at an outside factory, and conveniently the company that makes my circuit boards offers this service. So I spent June and July converting every single one of my designs into a format that I could have sent for pick-and-place, and starting in August every single build (aside from Echosaurus, Robot Butterfly, and Lab Rat X) was made on a pick-and-place board.
The factory doesn't stock all of the components I need so every board has 2-6 (depending on the circuit) components I have to add myself, but this is a huge time savings for me, and has allowed me to produce the same number of pedals with even better consistency in less time. Every single board gets inspected by me before it goes in the box, and every single pedal still gets tested before it gets shipped, but the soldering of the boards themselves is so much better now that robots are doing it instead of me.
Anyway, I'm going to go finish a bunch of pedals now. Talk to you guys later. Here's a
neat video of a pick-and-place machine for those that haven't seen it. They're neat.
September and onward is getting the updated Space Heater. The new Space Heater has an internal "ATTEN" trimpot to limit the output so you don't have to keep your volume at 8:00 in order to avoid melting faces.
Really the biggest update I made is one I've kept a pseudo-secret while I evaluated if it was going to be something I move over to 100% or not, but I have alluded to it as "improved manufacturability". Building pedals takes time. Building more pedals takes more time. One of the most tedious and time-consuming parts of pedal building is populating circuit boards. When I first started I did it by hand, then moved on to solder paste stencils and a reflow oven. This was approximately 10x faster than doing it by hand. The only way I could build them any faster was if I used a pick-and-place machine. Unfortunately even the most affordable pick-and-place machines, which are too small for my uses, start at $3k, which is a big investment.
So in June I started looking into having my boards assembled by pick-and-place at an outside factory, and conveniently the company that makes my circuit boards offers this service. So I spent June and July converting every single one of my designs into a format that I could have sent for pick-and-place, and starting in August every single build (aside from Echosaurus, Robot Butterfly, and Lab Rat X) was made on a pick-and-place board.
The factory doesn't stock all of the components I need so every board has 2-6 (depending on the circuit) components I have to add myself, but this is a huge time savings for me, and has allowed me to produce the same number of pedals with even better consistency in less time. Every single board gets inspected by me before it goes in the box, and every single pedal still gets tested before it gets shipped, but the soldering of the boards themselves is so much better now that robots are doing it instead of me.
Anyway, I'm going to go finish a bunch of pedals now. Talk to you guys later. Here's a
neat video of a pick-and-place machine for those that haven't seen it. They're neat.
Is it me or is that a shaging sweet guitar?
Also the only things keeping me from pining overly for one of these are a) I recently got a Fuzzrocious Lil Fella and it's fun and b) I don't have the juice to run two tube pedals on either of my pedalboards. ...yet.
That's a good thing bc I have a poopie ton of other things to spend money on, including other Sushi pedals. CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON.
Luckily for you Fluffy Kitten is a solid state pedal, 10ma or so required. It started as Nathan saying he'd do it as an April fools joke...and now here we are
