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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society

Cool thread....I tune in and it's part pedal pedagogy, part foodie reviews, part pathology report.......I am trying to resist ordering More, and the fact that the site wouldn't allow me to select a HW More has hitherto made that a shade easier....is it a glitch?
HW More doesn't exist, I've only done an SMD version of it. If a HW version were to be made it would have to be in the same size enclosure as Dr. Wattson.

From September on, there will only be a choice between simple and full colored artwork on raw aluminum, or will other finish options exist?
Raw aluminum (with clear powdercoat over the artwork) will be the only option from September onward. I'm actually thinking about reducing options further and only doing simple, but adding some additional simple artwork to them (like I used to do when I laser engraved everything) and making it the only choice. More on that when decisions have been made. I'm trying to not only reduce the amount of time I spend working on boxes, but also trying to reduce the number of mistakes it's possible for me to make. I don't often send people the wrong artwork, but it has happened a couple times.
 
Sonically they stack well, with the exception (so far, I’m still pretty fresh with these two) of when the DW has the gain cranked, and I hit the input hard with a hot LR. It can do that overly compressed thing. BUT THATS NOT WHAT I CAME HERE TO POST. I’ve made a very interesting and gloriously useful discovery. I was getting that pesky PSU whine with both on the board. Went away when either one was unplugged. Then I had the inspiration to try a Buffer Buster after the LR, and great gotchama if the whine didn’t just disappear. It’s a miracle I tell ya, a miracle!

after LR, before DW.

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UPDATE: While the Buffer buster definitely achieved the goal of eliminating PSU noise between the LR and the DW, I found a better solution. I inadvertently had my Dr. Wattson on a two pedal daisy chain. Putting it on isolated power also eliminated the PSU noise, no Buster needed now.

Since my board is in constant flux, daisy chains became problematic, keeping track etc. So I installed a third PSU under my Gator board, an Eventide branded Cioks. Now, not only do I have everything isolated, I'm also running the HXFX off the Cioks.
 
HW More doesn't exist, I've only done an SMD version of it. If a HW version were to be made it would have to be in the same size enclosure as Dr. Wattson.


Raw aluminum (with clear powdercoat over the artwork) will be the only option from September onward. I'm actually thinking about reducing options further and only doing simple, but adding some additional simple artwork to them (like I used to do when I laser engraved everything) and making it the only choice. More on that when decisions have been made. I'm trying to not only reduce the amount of time I spend working on boxes, but also trying to reduce the number of mistakes it's possible for me to make. I don't often send people the wrong artwork, but it has happened a couple times.

I'll be honest. This saddens me. The awesome colors were what drew me to SushiBox in the first place because they didn't look like every other pedal out there. I currently have white, green, orange, red, full color, and a raw/simple. Even my SushiBox pedals don't look like any of my other SushiBox pedals. I understand though. I may have to get something in Rainbow's End to signify the end of the rainbow so to speak.

And what does this mean for Fluffy Kitten? I keep that one on display just because of the awesome artwork!

I assume you've already tried pre-finished enclosures? You'd probably have issues with cutting the cooling slots I'd guess.
 
@Sushi Box FX

How different is the tone stack in the UA compared to the DW?
UA tonestack is a Fender style, DW is a Hiwatt style. They're both treble-mid-bass stacks, but that's where the similarities end. Fender stacks you can set to around 2-10-2 and get a "flat" response, but there's no way to get a flat response out of a Hiwatt stack, it will always have a pronounced mid-bump.

so are the new underground accelerators going to have a tone stack bypass switch?
Yup, all Underground Accelerators starting this month (July batch) will come standard with teh tone stack bypass switch.

I'll be honest. This saddens me. The awesome colors were what drew me to SushiBox in the first place because they didn't look like every other pedal out there. I currently have white, green, orange, red, full color, and a raw/simple. Even my SushiBox pedals don't look like any of my other SushiBox pedals. I understand though. I may have to get something in Rainbow's End to signify the end of the rainbow so to speak.

And what does this mean for Fluffy Kitten? I keep that one on display just because of the awesome artwork!

I assume you've already tried pre-finished enclosures? You'd probably have issues with cutting the cooling slots I'd guess.
I know, and it's been a tough decision. Obviously nobody buys pedals 100% for the looks (aside from Fluffy Kitten), but the looks have always been important, and I want people to be able to express themselves. But it continues to be a huge drain on my time, and is frankly the least enjoyable part of building for me, not to mention the part where I'm most likely to mess up and have to re-do things.

I've tried pre-coated enclosures, but you nailed it, the CNC milling process isn't very gentle, and it's too easy to get scratches all over the enclosure before they even get to the workbench. Also if I mess up a print on a raw enclosure I can wipe off the artwork with acetone and re-print, but if I mess up on a powdercoat enclosure, I have to sand the whole top off, re-apply the powdercoat, then re-print.

Fluffy Kitten will remain the one exception. Due to an agreement I have with the artist, Fluffy Kitten has always only been available as full color over white, and it will continue to be only available in full color over white.
 
I'll be honest. This saddens me. The awesome colors were what drew me to SushiBox in the first place because they didn't look like every other pedal out there. I currently have white, green, orange, red, full color, and a raw/simple. Even my SushiBox pedals don't look like any of my other SushiBox pedals. I understand though. I may have to get something in Rainbow's End to signify the end of the rainbow so to speak.

And what does this mean for Fluffy Kitten? I keep that one on display just because of the awesome artwork!

I assume you've already tried pre-finished enclosures? You'd probably have issues with cutting the cooling slots I'd guess.
I understand where you and where @Sushi Box FX are both coming from on this issue. I hope to be able to get future pedals with artwork as I find the Finally the ugly duckling in my SushiBoxFX collection. I also value my early custom color, laser etched boxes just that much more.

Also the MORE ought to have a big knob, A BIG KNOB, A MORE BIGGER KNOB! Just saying.
 
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Raw aluminum (with clear powdercoat over the artwork) will be the only option from September onward. I'm actually thinking about reducing options further and only doing simple, but adding some additional simple artwork to them (like I used to do when I laser engraved everything) and making it the only choice. More on that when decisions have been made. I'm trying to not only reduce the amount of time I spend working on boxes, but also trying to reduce the number of mistakes it's possible for me to make. I don't often send people the wrong artwork, but it has happened a couple times.

Good call. Choosing your design from the knob and LED color to the design artwork and powdercoat is merely a nice-to-have option. Other brands do one design and that's it - this still leaves room for limited edition runs.
 
Also the MORE ought to have a big knob, A BIG KNOB, A MORE BIGGER KNOB! Just saying.
I've changed the stock knobs on many of the pedals that I own...
For the More you could do this, which is similar to a regular Sushi Box knob, just much wider...
Or this, which is in between the two sizes, but with a bunch of different color options!
 
Also the MORE ought to have a big knob, A BIG KNOB, A MORE BIGGER KNOB! Just saying.
I am planning to go up in size a little for More's knob, but I haven't really committed to one yet. Probably won't go HUGE, but bigger.

Never thought I'd see the day when SushiBox was just like everybody else :)
And it certainly wasn't my intention. My original goal was to find a turnkey supplier and contract out building of my SMD designs, then I would continue doing handwired builds myself, but I would reduce the number of builds I personally do each month and allow more custom options. So you could have the externally built "stock" SMD pedals, or the "custom shop" pedals still handbuilt by me.

This plan fell apart when I discovered how difficult it is to find a turnkey supplier willing to work with tubes. Most of the companies I talked to just said they don't deal with tubes, the one I was able to get a quote from said they could build Dr. Wattson for $320 per unit. That wouldn't be the end price for the customer, that's what it would cost me per unit for them to build it. So obviously I didn't go for that as price is always going to be a sticking point for me. I want pedals at prices that I would personally be willing to pay for a pedal.

I would still like to work toward this eventually. True custom builds are a huge time suck, but I still loved doing it. I love letting the pedals be a further canvas for expression of the player, and that's why I had a dozen colors available for so long. But Sushi Box is still trying to decide what it wants to be when it grows up, and my non-business brain is being forced into making business decisions. I love building things, I hate deciding things.

Anyway, I could keep rambling, but that pretty well covers what's going on in my brain about this stuff. Everyone likes customization, I like customization, but I'm trying to sleep more.
 
I am planning to go up in size a little for More's knob, but I haven't really committed to one yet. Probably won't go HUGE, but bigger.


And it certainly wasn't my intention. My original goal was to find a turnkey supplier and contract out building of my SMD designs, then I would continue doing handwired builds myself, but I would reduce the number of builds I personally do each month and allow more custom options. So you could have the externally built "stock" SMD pedals, or the "custom shop" pedals still handbuilt by me.

This plan fell apart when I discovered how difficult it is to find a turnkey supplier willing to work with tubes. Most of the companies I talked to just said they don't deal with tubes, the one I was able to get a quote from said they could build Dr. Wattson for $320 per unit. That wouldn't be the end price for the customer, that's what it would cost me per unit for them to build it. So obviously I didn't go for that as price is always going to be a sticking point for me. I want pedals at prices that I would personally be willing to pay for a pedal.

I would still like to work toward this eventually. True custom builds are a huge time suck, but I still loved doing it. I love letting the pedals be a further canvas for expression of the player, and that's why I had a dozen colors available for so long. But Sushi Box is still trying to decide what it wants to be when it grows up, and my non-business brain is being forced into making business decisions. I love building things, I hate deciding things.

Anyway, I could keep rambling, but that pretty well covers what's going on in my brain about this stuff. Everyone likes customization, I like customization, but I'm trying to sleep more.

Oh I get it!

What about this....do the change where everything is raw/simple. Then each month, offer 1 different color option. Not sure if that would make things easier while still offering some variety.
 
Something Fuzzrocious has is a custom option where a small hooman applies chaotic swirls of paint to the enclosure, with further handpainted art for labeling optional.

Not to steal the idea outright, but if the occasional unpredictable custom option were offered (like a "surprise me!" sort of thing), it might be relatively fun to do, it would by definition never involve redos, and could have a similar effect of having at least a small trickle of one-off pedals into the world. All at the creator's whim, of course.
 
Oh I get it!

What about this....do the change where everything is raw/simple. Then each month, offer 1 different color option. Not sure if that would make things easier while still offering some variety.

Not to steal the idea outright, but if the occasional unpredictable custom option were offered (like a "surprise me!" sort of thing), it might be relatively fun to do, it would by definition never involve redos, and could have a similar effect of having at least a small trickle of one-off pedals into the world. All at the creator's whim, of course.
I have thought about something like this. I still have all the sparkly and translucent powders from the before times, I've considered having a "dealer's choice" option where I pick a color each month and throw it on.
 

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