The Sushi Box FX Secret Society

[jaibeau]

Are you asking if the tube in the pedal is acting like a tube?

Ok ok, I’m saying as a more present characteristic about the pedal that i haven’t heard discussed. I wasn’t expecting it to be as active I guess. But I’m new to the party so maybe it has. It was enough for me to pull my Mxr bass compressor off the board.

 

[Derek Williams]

Ok ok, I’m saying as a more present characteristic about the pedal that i haven’t heard discussed. I wasn’t expecting it to be as active I guess. But I’m new to the party so maybe it has. It was enough for me to pull my Mxr bass compressor off the board.

To be fair, I don’t think it’s exactly what is typically referred to as “tube compression”, which I believe only really happens with a tube amp. But as the tube starts to saturate, your signal will be compressed as well, which is probably what you are hearing.

 

[jaibeau]

To be fair, I don’t think it’s exactly what is typically referred to as “tube compression”, which I believe only really happens with a tube amp. But as the tube starts to saturate, your signal will be compressed as well, which is probably what you are hearing.

Ok, good info. I also meant I’ve played through amps with a tube pre and they did nothing like this pedal does.. the compression and overtones are way more present than I was expecting

 

[Sushi Box FX]

Super quick December batch update:

I was able to get all the enclosures finished over the weekend with the assistance of my powdercoating apprentice. Circuit board assembly is underway and I expect to get a good deal done in the coming week. Every month I do a couple extra enclosures to have on hand in case I want to build extras, and a couple orders this month matched up with enclosures I already had on hand so those builds are moving a little faster and will be shipping soon.

There are a few boards that stock was low on and I'm still waiting for those to be delivered, but they shipped over the weekend so I should see them soon. Target date for finishing everything and shipping is still mid next week, I'll keep updating as things progress.

 

[lomo]

Great. The powder coating angel looks to be a keeper, and the colour of her coat would make for a great pedal finish

 

[Sushi Box FX]

Great. The powder coating angel looks to be a keeper, and the colour of her coat would make for a great pedal finish

It is a pretty neat color, I'll look around.

I wasn't planning on having her involved, but she asked if she could help work on enclosures, so I jokingly told her to go clean out the powdercoat gun and change colors. She disappeared and I figured she had gone off to play, then I went to the garage and saw her trying to figure out how to take the gun apart So I gave her proper PPE and we got some work done.

 

[bassbrad]

@jaibeau tubes do give a bit of a bounce or squishy feel when playing especially if you are pushing the input just he right bit that has a similarity to compression.

@Sushi Box FX the Garage Sale Slampegg Bee mini tube has arrived and is a brilliant addition to my recording setup, handily replacing the decent Zoom Ampeg B15 model in the GCE3 I had been using.

@SoulReflection there is really no fair comparison, the Slampeg Bee feels like playing into a tube amp which the Zoom GCE3 does not and the ability to control the input gain and the interaction of the tone stack are far more organic, the sound of the SB is delicious hand brewed coffee the Zoom is like vending machine coffee.

 

[XLunacy]

Ok ok, I’m saying as a more present characteristic about the pedal that i haven’t heard discussed. I wasn’t expecting it to be as active I guess. But I’m new to the party so maybe it has. It was enough for me to pull my Mxr bass compressor off the board.

Exact same observation here, I used to run the MXR comp as an end of chain limiter, but found that after adding the UA I don't seem to need it as much as I did before; it is disabled for the time being, and everything sounds better with the UA I'm keeping a dual band FEA comp early in the chain though.

 

[Sushi Box FX]

the sound of the SB is delicious hand brewed coffee the Zoom is like vending machine coffee.

I'll add that to my "quotes I need mounted on my wall" list, thanks Brad

 

[jaibeau]

Exact same observation here, I used to run the MXR comp as an end of chain limiter, but found that after adding the UA I don't seem to need it as much as I did before; it is disabled for the time being, and everything sounds better with the UA I'm keeping a dual band FEA comp early in the chain though.

I feel I’m doing the UA an injustice by putting ANY compression in front of it now- that’s why the MXR is already sold on here. The push and pull feel of it is just to valuable to manipulate- output definitely doesn’t need it either… iMO

 

[_Tay_]

Lurked the forum for years but finally signed up to say I've joined the Sushi club! Just got a garage sale Space Heater on the way. Excited to see what it's like on my board and planning to have it at the end of chain. I'm hoping it will add an extra dimension to my tone, hard to gauge on videos but the one I found comparing different tubes sounded good!

 

[gtirard]

Lurked the forum for years but finally signed up to say I've joined the Sushi club! Just got a garage sale Space Heater on the way. Excited to see what it's like on my board and planning to have it at the end of chain. I'm hoping it will add an extra dimension to my tone, hard to gauge on videos but the one I found comparing different tubes sounded good!

I guess it was my video Glad if it's useful.

For info, I made the video with my G&L L-2000, which have very hot pickups and active electronics. After recording the video, I tried with a passive bass, the behaviour of the SH was super different, so the SH is very sensible to the level of the signal it receives.

In your case, since you intend to have it at the end of your signal gain, il will depend a lot on the output volume of the pedal you have before it.

Anyway, if you are looking for a warm clean tone, you may need to lower the ouput of the other pedals, and/or swap the tube.

Have fun.

 

[_Tay_]

I guess it was my video Glad if it's useful.

For info, I made the video with my G&L L-2000, which have very hot pickups and active electronics. After recording the video, I tried with a passive bass, the behaviour of the SH was super different, so the SH is very sensible to the level of the signal it receives.

In your case, since you intend to have it at the end of your signal gain, il will depend a lot on the output volume of the pedal you have before it.

Anyway, if you are looking for a warm clean tone, you may need to lower the ouput of the other pedals, and/or swap the tube.

Have fun.

That's great, thanks for the info! I have an active bass without very hot pickups. Have quite a few pedals before it so will look forward to experimenting with it.

 

[SoulReflection]

What are the differences between Slampegg reg and X?

 

[JackFawkes]

What are the differences between Slampegg reg and X?

The original model used 6N21B sub-miniature "pen" tubes that can only be found as Soviet surplus and can only be replaced by soldering.
The X model was redesigned to use common, easily swappable 12AX7 tubes (or any other standard 9-pin 12A_7 tube).
If I recall correctly, the 6N21B requires a bit more current to operate, runs a bit hotter, and pushes a little more midrange than a 12AX7 does.
Oh yeah, and the 6N21B has a voltage gain of 75, while a 12AX7 has a gain of 100... on paper, a 6N21B makes the gain characteristics of the Slampegg closer to a B-15N while a 12AX7 will make it closer to a B-25... but if you swapped a 12AX7 for a 5751 it'd theoretically put your gain structure closer to that of a B-15N again.

 

[Mayo Fan]

What are the differences between Slampegg reg and X?

The X is regularly available while the non-X mini tube versions are all discontinued.

 

[SoulReflection]

The original model used 6N21B sub-miniature "pen" tubes that can only be found as Soviet surplus and can only be replaced by soldering.
The X model was redesigned to use common, easily swappable 12AX7 tubes (or any other standard 9-pin 12A_7 tube).
If I recall correctly, the 6N21B requires a bit more current to operate, runs a bit hotter, and pushes a little more midrange than a 12AX7 does.

Thank you!

 

[SoulReflection]

The X is regularly available while the non-X mini tube versions are all discontinued.

Thanks...as you can see, I am still learning!

 

[Mayo Fan]

Thanks...as you can see, I am still learning!

There's a lot to learn when jumping on the SushiBox wagon. The great thing about señor Sushi being a one man band is that he develops new iterations or completely new designs quite often. That can make it a bit more difficult to keep up with the jargon used in this thread.

That raises a question, who has time to spare to start a SushiBox wiki listing all past and current models?

 

[SoulReflection]

There's a lot to learn when jumping on the SushiBox wagon. The great thing about señor Sushi being a one man band is that he develops new iterations or completely new designs quite often. That can make it a bit more difficult to keep up with the jargon used in this thread.

That raises a question, who has time to spare to start a SushiBox wiki listing all past and current models?

Don't look at me...I know next to nothing .