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The TB Non-PC club!
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Burning a flag being racist etc. Can be described as technically being non-politically correct. But if you keep going down that road it would get to the stage where anyone who obeys any sort of rule or law is being politically correct. To me there is a big difference. Most of what I see as politically correctness is just sugar coating of reality to make it more palpable for everyone. Re-jigging words that have throughout history being used in common vernacular just to make 1 person feel a little more comfortable. It's needless alterations to terms that never needed altering. That for years never caused offence to anyone until the political correct era appeared.
Same sex marriage instead of gay marriage.
Differently abled instead of disabled.
Fire fighter instead of fire man
Chairperson instead of chair man
Flight attendant instead of stewardess
the list can go on and on and has more and more obscurities.
Changing these words to avoid hurting someone's feelings
Is a million miles away from someone burning a flag which to me is not being politically incorrect but being deliberately hateful or purposefully instigating a negative reaction.
Originally Posted by IotaNet
Agreed.
Lot's of people who describe themselves as "anti-PC" get riled up very fast when someone burns the American flag.
I do not see how burning a flag is expressing the first ammendment and free speach. But thats just me.
Agreed.
Lot's of people who describe themselves as "anti-PC" get riled up very fast when someone burns the American flag.
I do not see how burning a flag is expressing the first ammendment and free speach. But thats just me.
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Maybe this will help:
In Texas v. Johnson, the court stated that "if there is a bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is that government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea offensive or disagreeable."
Does that clear that up?
Special limited freedom being my favorite.
I also like the idea that PC is a liberal thing... because no one else has sacred cows
For example, liberals are up in arms about what "NOT" to call gay marriage.
That much I knew big guy. But I see nothing in the first amendment that says Burning something is a form of speech. Speech is vocal. At least IMO. However ymmv and the gmdv.
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances
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So there is no free speech on the internet since it's not mentioned and it's not spoken?
Having more than one set of morals can be taxing.
So there is no free speech on the internet since it's not mentioned and it's not spoken?
Having more than one set of morals can be taxing.
No you see, this is communicating, we are speaking via written words. But if you want to be technical, there is limited free speech on the internet. Not to bash the site, but it is a good example of limited free speech. There are quite a few things we can't say here without getting in trouble for it.
And I don't have more than one set of morals, I've always been against burning the flag. I'm a prior Marine and defended it/country. So yeah, to see someone burning the flags really irks me. Many people died for under protecting that flag. But thought I hate it, these people DO have the constitutional right to do it and far be it from me to be a hypocrite and try to change legislation to stop them, because it is protected under the first amendment. So they do have a right to do it. But just because they have that right, doesn't mean I have to like it.
This isn't the internet, this is just one site on the internet.
You realize that they have a constitutional right, the right to free speech is where they got it.
If you look at it from your POV, mute people wouldn't have the right... except possibly by sign language. "Speech" in this case is about "voicing" whatever you want... and you don't need a physical voice to do it.
I don't see how being PC or not has anything to do with free speech. To me PC is just a sugar coated re-interpretation of something. So that no one gets offended. You end up saying that same thing just in a more round about and generally far to sensitive to everything way. So your freedom of speech hasn't been restricted just redirected.
I just shouted a bunch of non-pc expletives at my screen. That's the way I roll. All passive-aggressive up in the house. WOoot!
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I'm offended by people who get offended about other people getting offended, especially about things that don't matter in the real world anyways. Yes, anyways.
Does that make me anti-PC?
Does that make me anti-PC?
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I bought my most recent desktop computer at a store called PC Club.
Unfortunately that location closed, so I suppose it's now the non-PC Club.
Unfortunately that location closed, so I suppose it's now the non-PC Club.
They don't.
Which is why I generally advocate breaking everyone's fingers that disagrees with me.
I'm telling you right now, that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard....read...oh, nevermind. I'm gonna print this thread up and burn it.
Mike
