The Tesla and other Electric vehicle thread.....

[Nedmundo]

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Where do your parents live?

Riverside, CT. There's a Supercharger in downtown Stamford, and others on the Hutchinson River Parkway near the CT/NY border. Early this year I stopped at one of the Superchargers on the Hutch to investigate, and while not ideal they could work. They're a little out of the way, but my bigger concern is crowding because it's such a high density, high traffic area. But the more I think about it, the more I think I should just deal with it, especially when an electric is so ideally suited to the vast bulk of our driving, which is within the Philly metro area.

 

[D M C]

Riverside, CT. There's a Supercharger in downtown Stamford, and others on the Hutchinson River Parkway near the CT/NY border. Early this year I stopped at one of the Superchargers on the Hutch to investigate, and while not ideal they could work. They're a little out of the way, but my bigger concern is crowding because it's such a high density, high traffic area. But the more I think about it, the more I think I should just deal with it, especially when an electric is so ideally suited to the vast bulk of our driving, which is within the Philly metro area.

Just a thought: If your parents have a house or even an apartment, you could plug in at their place while you visit. If all you can do is a standard 110v, 20a outlet, you'll charge at around 5-6 mph; more (double or better) if they have 220v available. If you're driving from Philly to CT, I gotta figure you're visiting for more than a few hours you could add at least 15 to 20 miles to the range figure.

 

[Mosaiques]

Just a thought: If your parents have a house or even an apartment, you could plug in at their place while you visit. If all you can do is a standard 110v, 20a outlet, you'll charge at around 5-6 mph; more (double or better) if they have 220v available. If you're driving from Philly to CT, I gotta figure you're visiting for more than a few hours you could add at least 15 to 20 miles to the range figure.

This. (the car comes with a portable charger that works at 110v or 220v)

Though in winter you'd need the car inside a garage to keep the battery warm enough for a 110v to charge the car. 220v outside in winter is fine -- it will always be be able to charge the car. If you're staying at a hotel when visiting, choose a hotel with EV chargers.

 

[Mosaiques]

If charging at their house isn't possible, you wouldn't necessarily need to find a Supercharger near Riverside. With a long range Model 3, you have enough range that you could charge on the trip back anywhere from Tarrytown down to the Trenton area. Pick a Supercharger based on traffic / ease of access / stalls available.

 

[Nedmundo]

If charging at their house isn't possible, you wouldn't necessarily need to find a Supercharger near Riverside. With a long range Model 3, you have enough range that you could charge on the trip back anywhere from Tarrytown down to the Trenton area. Pick a Supercharger based on traffic / ease of access / stalls available.

Yes, I've thought of that and it's probably the way to go. I wouldn't be able to charge in their garage, which is home to my dad's 2003 Thunderbird. Plus, it's almost as cold as the outside.

I occasionally stay at a hotel up there, and it does have Superchargers for guests.

 

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I occasionally stay at a hotel up there, and it does have Superchargers for guests.

Those are "Destination Chargers" - not as fast as Superchargers, about like charging at home with a good setup. Just FWIW.

 

[Alkali Ike]

I am about to vent over the baffling state of EV development.

The new VW ID.4 crossover was designed from the ground up to be an EV. It's nearly identical in size to a Tesla Model Y. The official EPA range for the RWD version is 250 miles. Anyone who's owned an EV knows that really means about 220 miles because you don't ever drive to literal empty unless your destination is known to have a charger (probably at your house). In the winter it's probably about 180 miles because you're using the heater, defroster, heated seats, wipers, and lights more. Also the battery loses capacity in cold weather.

The ID.4 AWD version has not been given an EPA rating yet but it will undoubtedly be less than 250 miles and all those range conditions will be lower. I need AWD due to where I live.

The Ford Mustang Mach E has a range of 220 miles. Same math applies to the actual range. (Not to mention the thing looks ugly to me).

An Audi Q5 e-tron has AWD and lots of luxury bells and whistles, with a price to match. Official range is 222 miles. Do the math.

The Tesla Model Y AWD has a range of 326 miles. That's about 290-300 real-world. Winter is probably around 250.

Tesla's competitors are hopelessly behind on the range issue. WTH.

 

[Downunderwonder]

I am about to vent over the baffling state of EV development.

The new VW ID.4 crossover was designed from the ground up to be an EV. It's nearly identical in size to a Tesla Model Y. The official EPA range for the RWD version is 250 miles. Anyone who's owned an EV knows that really means about 220 miles because you don't ever drive to literal empty unless your destination is known to have a charger (probably at your house). In the winter it's probably about 180 miles because you're using the heater, defroster, heated seats, wipers, and lights more. Also the battery loses capacity in cold weather.

The ID.4 AWD version has not been given an EPA rating yet but it will undoubtedly be less than 250 miles and all those range conditions will be lower. I need AWD due to where I live.

The Ford Mustang Mach E has a range of 220 miles. Same math applies to the actual range. (Not to mention the thing looks ugly to me).

An Audi Q5 e-tron has AWD and lots of luxury bells and whistles, with a price to match. Official range is 222 miles. Do the math.

The Tesla Model Y AWD has a range of 326 miles. That's about 290-300 real-world. Winter is probably around 250.

Tesla's competitors are hopelessly behind on the range issue. WTH.

Tesla is way ahead of the game in developing battery tech.

Nobody yet knows from where the electricity to charge the batteries is supposed to come. All still a shell game for players.

 

[Fishheadjoe]

350HP outboard... I have to wonder how long it will last at various rpms....
Really cool though!

Fishheadjoe

 

[Alkali Ike]

GM to Cadillac dealers: If you're not on board with the brand being 100% electric within a few years, we'll buy you out now. 150 dealers took the buyout, ranging from $300K to $1M.

Cadillac dealers are jumping ship rather than upgrade for EV sales, report says - Roadshow

As Cadillac gears up to become a manufacturer of electric vehicles, it's reached a point where it needs to start preparing its dealer network for the change. This means lots of costly and mandatory upgrades to their facilities for franchised dealers unless GM gives them a way out of their franchise agreements.

According to a report published Friday by the Wall Street Journal, that's precisely what GM is doing. Specifically, GM is giving Cadillac dealers a choice between giving up their ability to sell any Cadillac and taking a buyout, or investing hundreds of thousands of dollars into an uncertain future.

Currently, there are around 880 Cadillac dealers in the US, and based on WSJ's reporting, as many as 150 of them have taken GM's buyout for dollar figures ranging from around $300,000 to as much as $1 million.

 

[yodedude2]

^^ 17% of the dealer network gone..yikes! the times, they are a-chargin'

 

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GM to Cadillac dealers: If you're not on board with the brand being 100% electric within a few years, we'll buy you out now. 150 dealers took the buyout, ranging from $300K to $1M.

Cadillac dealers are jumping ship rather than upgrade for EV sales, report says - Roadshow

As Cadillac gears up to become a manufacturer of electric vehicles, it's reached a point where it needs to start preparing its dealer network for the change. This means lots of costly and mandatory upgrades to their facilities for franchised dealers unless GM gives them a way out of their franchise agreements.

According to a report published Friday by the Wall Street Journal, that's precisely what GM is doing. Specifically, GM is giving Cadillac dealers a choice between giving up their ability to sell any Cadillac and taking a buyout, or investing hundreds of thousands of dollars into an uncertain future.

Currently, there are around 880 Cadillac dealers in the US, and based on WSJ's reporting, as many as 150 of them have taken GM's buyout for dollar figures ranging from around $300,000 to as much as $1 million.

Yup, the dealership model is dying, faster than expected, even...

 

[S-Bigbottom]

^^ 17% of the dealer network gone..yikes! the times, they are a-chargin'

Ever heard anything good about Cadillac in the last 20 years? Except the looks of the Escalade?
Notice that you do not see old models on the road? Even 10 year old models?

Them Dealers probably wanted out for a long time.

When someone says, "It is the Cadillac of (item)." used to mean it was top of the line.
When someone says that to me I think, "Then it is a polished turd."

I know many that have had their Cadillac's with tons of problems, then the engine goes. They all dumped them after a few years of ownership and will never go back.

 

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Well well my Tesla Model 3 is busted, towed off to the shop (dead 12v system). I should be more upset than I am. The fact that my little $TSLA investment just pushed me over the top into "two comma" territory makes me a lot less upset.

 

[Mike N]

Ever heard anything good about Cadillac in the last 20 years? Except the looks of the Escalade?
Notice that you do not see old models on the road? Even 10 year old models?

Them Dealers probably wanted out for a long time.

When someone says, "It is the Cadillac of (item)." used to mean it was top of the line.
When someone says that to me I think, "Then it is a polished turd."

I know many that have had their Cadillac's with tons of problems, then the engine goes. They all dumped them after a few years of ownership and will never go back.

The Escalade is nothing more than an overpriced Tahoe, imo. The rest of the Cadillac lineup is rather unimpressive to me and has been for years.

Last good thing Cadillac did was the 500 cubic inch engine. 500+ ft/lbs of torque at 2800 rpm and 100 lbs lighter than a 454...... what's not to like about that??

 

[Stewie26]

Great video interview with Jay Leno on Tesla and other electric vehicles. Man, he nailed it.
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[Stewie26]

Wow...what's up with the Tesla stock? It has hit an all time high this morning and has gone up over a thousand percent in the past nine months. Who would have known.

 

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Wow...what's up with the Tesla stock? It has hit an all time high this morning and has gone up over a thousand percent in the past nine months. Who would have known.
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The latest run up is likely due to S&P inclusion causing mandatory index tracking fund purchases, and current stockholders just aren't selling for cheap. Now the big boys want in, but they've got to pay to play...

 

[bluesblaster]

The Escalade is nothing more than an overpriced Tahoe, imo. The rest of the Cadillac lineup is rather unimpressive to me and has been for years.

Last good thing Cadillac did was the 500 cubic inch engine. 500+ ft/lbs of torque at 2800 rpm and 100 lbs lighter than a 454...... what's not to like about that??

At this little drag strip we used to go to years ago there was a guy that stuffed one of those 500 ci caddy motors into a smaller GM sedan body, it went quite well as I remember

 

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At this little drag strip we used to go to years ago there was a guy that stuffed one of those 500 ci caddy motors into a smaller GM sedan body, it went quite well as I remember

I used to know a guy who took one of those and shoehorned it into a yellow '67 Chevelle SS.