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The Un-Official Sadowsky SA200 Thread...

Wow, grats! How on earth did you find a new SA200? That is a good score.

And, FWIW, I highly recommend that anyone with an SA200 try it out with two SA410's. One SA410 is nice, the SA410/SA210 rig is really cool, too, and more hi-fi sounding (in a good way). But two SA410's puts the SA200 into wrecking-ball mode! :bassist: :bassist: :bassist:

Tom.

I agree, I definitely like to use two SA410s when at a gig with a full band, much more viable, 1 is a little weak. Still a good full tone, but I have trouble cutting through with two guitars, keyboard and sax.
 
I agree, I definitely like to use two SA410s when at a gig with a full band, much more viable, 1 is a little weak. Still a good full tone, but I have trouble cutting through with two guitars, keyboard and sax.

Yes, adding the second SA410 makes it a great deal louder.
 
I agree, I definitely like to use two SA410s when at a gig with a full band, much more viable, 1 is a little weak. Still a good full tone, but I have trouble cutting through with two guitars, keyboard and sax.

wow,

really? maybe i'm blessed, but i've been ok against two halfstacks. sure, they're not blaringly loud, but their off axis low end can be annoying, and yet, i'm punching thru just fine.

heck, i'm finally getting an SA210 from bikeplate, and hopefully, it'll be even better! call me crazy siked... :cool:
 
Man, I find this weird to read. I have so much headroom left on my hexavalve with 810.


What makes this difference? 8 vs 4 speakers, or 300 vs 200 watts?

Hey, I have a Hexavalve also. One of only 12 that made it into the USA. ....great amp.

Sorry for the OT folks.
 
i'm sure tom might have posted about this somewhere on his blog, but i had some crackling from my sa200 the other night, and was told by my tech, jimmy @ Invalid Link Removed, that i probably have a bum preamp tube.

thusly, had my own little preamp tube shootout. it was totally informal, and frankly, i had just a bit of time before my next gig, so take it for what it is. had my trusty lakland bob glaub w/ stock fralin pickup, SA210 (thx bikeplate!!!), fat switch on, tone controls are usually just noon, along w/ the gain and volume. master to taste. and i replaced just the V1 (and later you'll see the V2), which was the culprit. i'm not sure what was stock. markings on the tube just say "12AX7-C", but that sounds sovtek'ish.

here are some thoughts:

EH 12AX7 - nice midrange, but top a little dull.
Sovtek 12AX7 - not too shabby and very similar to the original sound but a bit more fur ontop.
JAN Philips 12AX7 - scooped mids, steely bottom, airy top end, but overall ok.
RCA 12AX7 - airy top, chewy midrange, full bottom end (ended up being microphonic)
Mullard CV4004 - nice airy top end. impressive steely punch! but slightly bottom end shy compared to the other tubes.
Philips 12AX7 - similar to the RCA, but not quite as rich.
"made in germany" ECC83 - similar to the sovtek

randomly marked JAN 5751 - nice full sound. nice top end.
JAN Philips 5751 - nice thick midrange, but dull top end.

there you go. again, just some random thoughts.

i really love the sound of the RCA. nice rich sound that made fingerstyle easy, but again, it began to make some noise. but if you want PUNCH, the CV4004 is your ticket. it blatantly adds more punch in ways that took me off guard!

in the end, i put the JAN 5751 in V1, and added the CV4004 in V2, which gave me a nice combo of thickness and punch, while still being smooth and even sounding. i dont like too much hair on my sound, but do like that tubey presence.
 
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Hey all,

I just took my sa200 into Savage Audio in Minneapolis to have it looked at. They had never seen one in the flesh before so that was pretty fun. They prompted me to plug it in to an Ampeg 810 and man, even though there was still the crackling issue (less present w/o a tweeter as you can imagine), it sounded WONDERFUL.

The Savage guys just stood there and were silent. The head tech then said, "Whoa - that thing sounds GREAT." He described it as a combo of a 70s SVT mixed with an SWR SM-900 - tubey plushness mixed with that solid state smack.

Cool.

So they're going to give it a check up and retube it. I'm sure it will be my main rig.

I'm excited.

And Joker - I have a NOS Telefunken that I'm going to try in V1. I'll let you know how it all turns out.

Thanks guys,

Ian
 
Hey all,

I just took my sa200 into Savage Audio in Minneapolis to have it looked at. They had never seen one in the flesh before so that was pretty fun. They prompted me to plug it in to an Ampeg 810 and man, even though there was still the crackling issue (less present w/o a tweeter as you can imagine), it sounded WONDERFUL.

The Savage guys just stood there and were silent. The head tech then said, "Whoa - that thing sounds GREAT." He described it as a combo of a 70s SVT mixed with an SWR SM-900 - tubey plushness mixed with that solid state smack.

Cool.

So they're going to give it a check up and retube it. I'm sure it will be my main rig.

I'm excited.

And Joker - I have a NOS Telefunken that I'm going to try in V1. I'll let you know how it all turns out.

Thanks guys,

Ian

nice Ian,

btw, some thoughts about your crackling issue...

i think i'm having the same problem. and ya know what, mine came back! i talked to jimmy, and he said that if the problem still persists when the master is down, its most likely something to do w/ arching on the plate resistor (?). pretty sure that's what he said. if the crackling goes away when you put the master to zero, then it probably is a bad preamp tube.
 
Hey dudes,

So I finally got my SA200 back from Savage Audio and it's GREAT - no more issues. They replaced the power tubes and the 6N1P driver tube and gave it a good cleaning. All is well. I can't wait to check it out on a gig. I'll report back when I do.

But dig this, I love the look of the guts of this amp so much that I had a custom plexiglass top cut for it! So now, you can see the guts of the amp and their glowing hotness all the time! I'm going to have a "lid off" style road case made for it. I'm pumped. Pictures soon.

Ian
 
Hey dudes,

So I finally got my SA200 back from Savage Audio and it's GREAT - no more issues. They replaced the power tubes and the 6N1P driver tube and gave it a good cleaning. All is well. I can't wait to check it out on a gig. I'll report back when I do.

But dig this, I love the look of the guts of this amp so much that I had a custom plexiglass top cut for it! So now, you can see the guts of the amp and their glowing hotness all the time! I'm going to have a "lid off" style road case made for it. I'm pumped. Pictures soon.

Ian

Yes, that is a work of art, for sure! I'm glad that your SA200 is back to full health, and I can't wait to see the photos of that plexi top! :bassist: :cool:

Tom.
 
Alright, so not the best pic - but it'll have to do until I get my space all set up to take the serious Sadowsky Porn pix!!

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It's all thanks to you Mr. Bowlus! I think I first saw the guts of an SA200 from a pic you posted and THAT ALONE eventually made me buy one - truth be told.

After I got it, I was bummed to not be able to see the inner workings, so I thought, "Why not?"

I have 2 Bergantino HS410s that are just longing for the SA200's tubey radness.

Review and pics to come!

Ian
 

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