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Things with (basically) no value whatsoever...........

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Before you get on your high horse, this is not intended to start a debate as to what we should have done or should do in the future with regard to recycling and/or repurposing. Thank you.

In the last couple of weeks, I have had the opportunity to walk through a few buildings that are abandoned. Two were old family practice clinics. A few were just old stores that are owned by a friend and are now filled with his "collections". A couple were houses of distant relatives.

As I walked through, I couldn't help but imagine what those places looked like when they were operating.

In one of the clinics there were plaques on the wall that read....

"To Dr. Miller In appreciation for your outstanding treatment of our mother."
"To Dr. Miller in appreciation for curing my chronic cough of more than twenty years."

Both clinics were full of old desks, files, medical equipment, etc.

My friends "collections" consist of furniture, old store equipment, wooden boxes, etc.

These things hold no value to anyone whatsoever. If I were "awarded" the contents of all of these buildings I wouldn't begin to know what to do with the stuff. I don't need it. Nobody needs it. Sure, I could make up uses for some of it. But why would I? Tearing apart an old broken desk to use the wood to help do repairs for some poor family would take a lot more time than running to Lowe's and getting what I need. Nobody needs 14 old rusty file cabinets.... for anything. Heck, it would make more sense to donate a computer to some poor struggling business man to keep files in rather than help him set up half a dozen file cabinets and a paper system. Nobody needs 35 old stained busted clinic lobby chairs..... old metal shelves from an old drug store.....for anything.

How many of you own baseball trophies from your grandfather's childhood? Even if you give a crap about those items, your kids won't care about them at all. How many of you look around homes of elderly relatives and see hundreds of items that nobody on Earth would ever want or need? Little ceramic cats...... old briefcases.... furniture with no special value....... My grandmother's health is failing. There are a couple of small items I want as keepsakes. But if her couch were dropped off at my house right now it would stay in the driveway until someone came to take it away. Heck, the land under her house is worth more without the house than with it.

Even if one were to donate the entire contents of these buildings to charity, the charities wouldn't be able to do anything with most of it. It would cost more to get a desk to Africa than it would to build a desk in Africa. There are no poor people in need of an old busted desk in my area. And it would cost more to transport buildings worth of this stuff to areas of need than it would to find used stuff in their areas. Even if a clinic were in desperate need of an old exam table or otoscope, these wouldn't pass any kind of inspection anyway. So they legally could not use them. They are literally worthless.

I love watching American Pickers. Those guys always leave behind much more than they take with them. They leave entire warehouses of useless, valueless items behind. And with older generations who remember any of this stuff passing on in droves, these items will become even more worthless in the next couple of decades.

The number of humans who give a crap that Vaudeville shows existed at some point in history is already low. Virtually no person on Earth will care, or want any memorabilia from it, in a matter of a few short years.

30 years from now, who on Earth will give a crap about an Elvis souvenir, a vinyl stool from an old soda counter in a drug store, the dashboard from a '74 Nova, any vinyl record at all, any CD at all, any Peavey speaker or amp from the 80s, thousands and thousands of appliances that will no longer keep up with technology or be supported with parts, DVD players, CRT televisions, National Geographic magazines from the 60s, a butter churn from the 1800s, baseball cards of any kind, etc.?

Most things that we consider "collectible" today will hold zero value in a few short years because there is no context for younger generations. My daughters (now 3 and 6) and their generation will probably never hear or read the names Mickey Mantle, Reggie Jackson, Burt Reynolds, Eric Estrada, Norman Rockwell....... They won't know who Robert Duvall is. They won't know what All in the Family or Three's Company is. (There are probably quite a few people on this forum as we speak who have no idea what/who I am talking about.) So why would any of the memorabilia from any of those shows or people matter to them? Sure, some things will be "timeless". But most won't.

Just looking around my office as I type this, I see things that are of great value to me, but will be of no value whatsoever after I am gone. Pictures of, and artwork from, my kids. An AM/FM radio with CD player I use to listen to local radio stations while I work.

My sister died very young (20 years old) in '94. Virtually everything she owned has no value whatsoever to anyone other than those who knew her well. How quickly that happened (in historical terms) is mind boggling. Clothes she wore.... stuff she used daily..... none of that stuff is relevant to anyone today.

(I'm rambling. Sorry.)

Short version: I guess it just blows my mind how many objects I have seen in the last month that, if they were gone, nobody on Earth would care or even notice. What in the world are we going to do with these things over time? Lots of it can not be recycled or repurposed. Somebody will eventually have to deal with these items. Everything will look very different in 50 years. Most of what we see as valuable today will be utterly useless/worthless by then. The way we look at the Civil War today is how they will view WWII through the 60s. The Old West will seem like the days of the cavemen.

It hurts me head to think about. So, I will give it to you and let you dwell on it for me. Thanks. :thumbsup:
 
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how do you feel when Isis destroys another ancient temple? those artifacts don't belong to me, but it hurts just the same!

OTOH,... i hear ya, TF! i live next to an F'n HOARDER and i hate it. they have effectively blighted a scenic 40 acre property. all of their CRAP IS IN DISREPAIR AND USELESS other than the recyclables!
i suggested they hire a backhoe & dumper and they were insulted! :rage::mad::thumbsdown::bawl::vomit::***::banghead::rollno:
 
I really think it depends on the audience. Would anyone be interested in a typewriter that my parent's owned, most certainly not. Though I'd venture to say that if a typewriter owned by Orson Wells were found it would be considered quite the find and be worth some value, whether financially or historically.

I think cultural icons such as Elvis, The Beatles, Michael Jackson, etc. will remain relevant in the same way people still talk about Beethoven, Bach, Vivaldi, etc.
 
Percy Bysshe Shelley:

Ozymandias

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock'd them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
 
Once had an oddball pistol. Was some sort of french army officer revolver complete with holster and shoulder lanyard and in near perfect condition. It was an obsolete caliber for which ammo was no longer manufactured, but could be hand loaded. I took it to a local gunsmith to ask about getting a few rounds made up and while I was there asked him what he thought it was worth.

He said whatever I could get for it was what it was worth. Said if I found a collector looking to add it to their collection it would be worth much more than if I took to the local gun shop. I wound up breaking even on it but about a month later some guy called me about it. He was a collector and the gunsmith told him about the piece and he wanted it. I sent him to the place I sold it and they got more than 5 times what they gave me.
 
Before you get on your high horse, this is not intended to start a debate as to what we should have done or should do in the future with regard to recycling and/or repurposing. Thank you.

In the last couple of weeks, I have had the opportunity to walk through a few buildings that are abandoned. Two were old family practice clinics. A few were just old stores that are owned by a friend and are now filled with his "collections". A couple were houses of distant relatives.

As I walked through, I couldn't help but imagine what those places looked like when they were operating.

In one of the clinics there were plaques on the wall that read....

"To Dr. Miller In appreciation for your outstanding treatment of our mother."
"To Dr. Miller in appreciation for curing my chronic cough of more than twenty years."

Both clinics were full of old desks, files, medical equipment, etc.

My friends "collections" consist of furniture, old store equipment, wooden boxes, etc.

These things hold no value to anyone whatsoever. If I were "awarded" the contents of all of these building I wouldn't begin to know what to do with the stuff. I don't need it. Nobody needs it. Sure, I could make up uses for some of it. But why would I? Tearing apart an old broken desk to use the wood to help do repairs for some poor family would take a lot more time than running to Lowe's and getting what I need. Nobody needs 14 old rusty file cabinets.... for anything. Heck, it would make more sense to donate a computer to some poor struggling business man to keep files in rather than help him set up half a dozen file cabinets and a paper system. Nobody needs 35 old stained busted clinic lobby chairs..... old metal shelves from an old drug store.....for anything.

How many of you own baseball trophies from your grandfather's childhood? Even if you give a crap about those items, your kids won't care about them at all. How many of you look around homes of elderly relatives and see hundreds of items that nobody on Earth would ever want or need? Little ceramic cats...... old briefcases.... furniture with no special value....... My grandmother's health is failing. There are a couple of small items I want as keepsakes. But if her couch were dropped off at my house right now it would stay in the driveway until someone came to take it away. Heck, the land under her house is worth more without the house than with it.

Even if one were to donate the entire contents of these buildings to charity, the charities wouldn't be able to do anything with most of it. It would cost more to get a desk to Africa than it would to build a desk in Africa. There are no poor people in need of an old busted desk in my area. And it would cost more to transport buildings worth of this stuff to areas of need than it would to find used stuff in their areas. Even if a clinic were in desperate need of an old exam table or otoscope, these wouldn't pass any kind of inspection anyway. So they legally could not use them. They are literally worthless.

I love watching American Pickers. Those guys always leave behind much more than they take with them. They leave entire warehouses of useless, valueless items behind. And with older generations who remember any of this stuff passing on in droves, these items will become even more worthless in the next couple of decades.

The number of humans who give a crap that Vaudeville shows existed at some point in history is already low. Virtually no person on Earth will care, or want any memorabilia from it, in a matter of a few short years.

30 years from now, who on Earth will give a crap about an Elvis souvenir, a vinyl stool from an old soda counter in a drug store, the dashboard from a '74 Nova, any vinyl record at all, any CD at all, any Peavey speaker or amp from the 80s, thousands and thousands of appliances that will no longer keep up with technology or be supported with parts, DVD players, CRT televisions, National Geographic magazines from the 60s, a butter churn from the 1800s, baseball cards of any kind, etc.?

Most things that we consider "collectible" today will hold zero value in a few short years because there is no context for younger generations. My daughters (now 3 and 6) and their generation will probably never hear or read the names Mickey Mantle, Reggie Jackson, Burt Reynolds, Eric Estrada, Norman Rockwell....... They won't know who Robert Duvall is. They won't know what All in the Family or Three's Company is. (There are probably quite a few people on this forum as we speak who have no idea what/who I am talking about.) So why would any of the memorabilia from any of those shows or people matter to them? Sure, some things will be "timeless". But most won't.

Just looking around my office as I type this, I see things that are of great value to me, but will be of no value whatsoever after I am gone. Pictures of, and artwork from, my kids. An AM/FM radio with CD player I use to listen to local radio stations while I work.

My sister died very young (20 years old) in '94. Virtually everything she owned has no value whatsoever to anyone other than those who knew her well. How quickly that happened (in historical terms) is mind boggling. Clothes she wore.... stuff she used daily..... none of that stuff is relevant to anyone today.

(I'm rambling. Sorry.)

Short version: I guess it just blows my mind how many objects I have seen in the last month that, if they were gone, nobody on Earth would care or even notice. What in the world are we going to do with these things over time? Lots of it can not be recycled or repurposed. Somebody will eventually have to deal with these items. Everything will look very different in 50 years. Most of what we see as valuable today will be utterly useless/worthless by then. The way we look at the Civil War today is how they will view WWII through the 60s. The Old West will seem like the days of the cavemen.

It hurts me head to think about. So, I will give it to you and let you dwell on it for me. Thanks. :thumbsup:


It's funny isn't it? How cheap some stuff is that repurposing old things is more expensive than just buying new. In Grandpa's day that was unheard of. Course he didn't have to take out a loan to go to the grocery store for milk and eggs either....

Me and my wife were talking about the value of old buildings a few days ago. How instead of revitalizing an older neighborhood like they would in Europe, people just move away and all that's left is blighted buildings that look like they used to be neat places. I can't criticize , I did it myself looking for better schools and lower crime.
 
For years my wife and I had this old couch. It had come from my paternal grandparents' house before they died and the story was that my great-grandfather had brought it over from Ireland, back before WWI. Nobody else in the family wanted it, so we took it, thinking of it as this connection to the "old country" or whatever. The thing was massive, heavy, consumed a lot of space, and was ugly and uncomfortable. We were poor and in grad school and then non-tenured academics and kept moving the monstrosity from one rental to another. Finally, about the fifth move since we got the thing, we were going into a smaller space to save money, and realized - there is no way this thing is going to fit unless we get rid of furniture we actually use and like. Nobody else in the family actually attaches any sentimental value to it. Why are we killing ourselves to move it? So we took it to the dump and let it go. It felt liberating.

I used to like the idea of a cozy Victorian space cluttered with sentimental doodads. Our house is still full of all kinds of weird little stuff. But my feelings are very different now. If you can shed it, shed it. Clutter is just a hassle.
 
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I think it would be cool to have a large property full of old cars, like they always encounter on American Pickers. But I'm realistic, it's not for me. We're just too efficient at making and selling stuff nowadays. Ancient civilizations left behind their broken pottery but it was all on a smaller scale.
One thing's for sure, there are a lot of underutilized buildings and unused farmland in this country.
 
Nice OP Twofingers. Made me think. I remember being at an estate sale once watching people step on photos and other things that the previous owners valued. Made me thing about my life and the junk we collect. I am not a hoarder and neither is my wife but I went back through my stuff and got rid of a lot of it. It felt good to lighten my load.
What good is porcelain figure that sits in your closet and never comes out. I kept it because my mom said it reminded her of me. I never looked at it except when it was in the way. I got ten bucks for it at a garage sale. It was a France Hook piece and some people collect those. Mostly old people. I wouldn't have known about that if my mom didn't tell me.
 
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People like this keep the nation's economic engine turning...


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It pains me to see people's garages filled with so much useless stuff that they can't even fit a car into it.
Me too.

I wonder if it's legally a fire hazard in some cities, counties or states. If a fire breaks out in one of those crammed garages, I imagine it would be hard to put out, and it won't necessarily stay confined to that house. The neighbors of these extreme hoarders might have a reason for concern.
 
I read about half, that's pretty good, right? I don't know now if I'm even on topic but I have a burning desire to put out there one of the most painful useless item discards I ever had in my life...

Ya see, back in around 1990, Digidesign came up with this "affordable" digital audio recording thing called Session 8. It was one of, if not THE first digital recording piece of machinery. And it cost a little less than $4000. Ya needed a scuzzy drive to record the music on, and that was only an additional $1000. For one gigabyte. Then you needed a DAT player to mix it down to, another $1000, and well... long story short, I bought it all and within 3 years it was obsolete. I still have the DAT recorder, but tossed the Session 8 and hard drive on one snowy evening a few years later. I stood there watching the snow covering it, knowing there was nothing I was ever going to be able to do with it. Didn't even want to give it away....

You can do way more now with a $30 interface and free software than you could with my $6000 worth of crap.

Ahh....
 
Burn it all down until nothing is left but the metal and take that to the metal recycler.

Use the recycling money as down payment on a self-storage business and start making a living off this problem.

Use your income to go out and buy useless stuff your grandkids will have to throw out.

Welcome to America!

Ha! Both concise and effective. Double points.
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