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Things You Never Want Recording Engineers To Say...

"Come on in guys, I want you to hear this! The bass sounds fantastic...finally...after we got someone else come in and re-record your parts last night while you were all at home sleeping..."

yes, this actually happens - more than most people know about :eyebrow:

I was reading an article w/ the bass player from Rascal Flats who had to fight to play on his own albums...craziness! (although I must admit I have replayed some parts in my career w/o the player knowing - mostly from the other band members request:eyebrow:)
 
I was reading an article w/ the bass player from Rascal Flats who had to fight to play on his own albums...craziness! (although I must admit I have replayed some parts in my career w/o the player knowing - mostly from the other band members request:eyebrow:)

I've had to do this as well... I was called in to play bass on a record, and the engineer asked me to stick around after the band left. When all was said and done, I ended up retracking almost every guitar part. The band had no idea... :rollno:
 
how could the band have no idea? do they have ears?

Ask the Beach Boys how they felt about Carol Kaye and Glenn Campbell replacing their tracks.

I'm sure paychecks and a continued career in music account for a lot of deafness at mixdown in these situations.
 
how could the band have no idea? do they have ears?

A lot of bands don't listen like we do... All I did was play the exact same parts, just with better timing and better tone. :D

Also, the guitar player had a knack for not being able to play a power chord in tune (death grip)... So, I'm assuming these guys don't pay much attention to anything.
 
Had this happen, recording my blues band live at a slick recording studio, we are killing it on this particular track. Engineer walks in & stops the band with "you have a phone call".
We almost strangled the guy.
 
"Randy (a guitarist friend of the engineer) and I had an idea. Here, listen to it. You'll love it!" The 'idea' was to add a guitar part to a track my band had thought we just finished.......anyway, after the s**t hit the fan, I recut my bass line to incorporate some of Randy's idea (he is an extremely talented guy; just wasn't part of our band).
 
My guitar player is a bit of a renaissance man.

Great player, sings, writes, produces, engineers and looks good too :ninja:

(Rough mixes here) Link Removed

Me being an IT pro, I asked him "What's your backup procedure?"

To my horror he responded "I don't worry about that ****."

I showed up at the next session with an external USB drive and made him promise to copy everything to that and burn it to a DVD as well.
 
I did a session for my band with Johnny Fortune. Our drummer couldn't make it that day so I played drums. After we finished and the bass player left, the engineer had Johnny redo the bass on both songs. So in reality the recordings were just he and I and not the band. Not what I wanted to do although these guys already had a successful track record doing it this way. Well while the tape was rolling on mixdown on the second song the engineer left the booth. Having done my own recording I road the slider on the other bass track and if you listen carefully you can hear it doubled in places. I suppose in this case the engineer had no ears. :)
 
All this talk about replacing tracks makes me not want to record.

nah - it's not malicious in most cases, at least in my experience. feelings can be hurt but most realize they need a good sounding recording, whatever it takes. studio and live are two different animals. I've had to learn to play live the last few years...I couldn't do it at first. so used to studio work.

sometimes it's money. I can lay a part down in a take or two and have minimal editing - that's cheaper than a whole day w/ someone who's not used to doing it, or doubling parts etc. I use a drummer outta Nashville to do most of my drums these days. I know some of the best drummers on the planet! but this guy has GREAT chops and he's dirt cheap - in most cases I get a whole track out of him for about the cost of just setting up a kit in a decent room. that outweighs "feelings" on a big project, and most bands I've worked w/ would agree...
 
"You didn't tell me he was going to be playing a Rickenbacker!"
That is what the engineer said on my first ever time in a studio. Eventually, we got the standard "we'll fix it in the mix".
It was also the first time I had ever heard anyone dis a Rick.
Fishheadjoe
 
nah - it's not malicious in most cases, at least in my experience. feelings can be hurt but most realize they need a good sounding recording, whatever it takes. studio and live are two different animals. I've had to learn to play live the last few years...I couldn't do it at first. so used to studio work.

sometimes it's money. I can lay a part down in a take or two and have minimal editing - that's cheaper than a whole day w/ someone who's not used to doing it, or doubling parts etc. I use a drummer outta Nashville to do most of my drums these days. I know some of the best drummers on the planet! but this guy has GREAT chops and he's dirt cheap - in most cases I get a whole track out of him for about the cost of just setting up a kit in a decent room. that outweighs "feelings" on a big project, and most bands I've worked w/ would agree...

In most cases?
 

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