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This guy is a monster

#41
Clowncatcher said:
The amount of people argueing here is unbelievable. First of all the dude just wanted to know how he was slapping so fast. No one asked for opinions. Secondly, I agree that the clip was nothing special and the tone wasnt great but when somone here shows me a clip of themselves doing the same thing then I will listen to them when they talk about that bass player as if he is below them. (I would also like to make a personal opinion that I think speedslapping is a very overused and overated form of playing and I wish bassists would stop trying to slap 500 notes a second just to look like they are impressive. It doesn't suit most styles of music and it causes the bass to sound less melodic which in my opinion makes lead playing quite dull and repetitive. There are some great bass solos which don't use slapping. Look at Teen Town or any other WR stuff. Jaco rarely uses slapping and he is quite possibly the most musically talented bassist ever) By the way I'm not saying I know a lot about music. I'm just a noobie compared to most people here but calling that video crap is a bit much considering I could find a handful of bassists who couldn't play that. I'm not saying musically its a great piece and as I said earlier I am not a huge fan of speedslapping but it takes skill to do that and I would be willing to bet money that if i went up to 1000 people on the street and asked them to play something as impressive as that, I wouldn't get a lot of people who could. Anyway I'm done now so feel free to flame me all you like, as I said I'm not claiming to be an expert it's just a personal opinion. :rolleyes:
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That's the beauty of the web... "No one asked for opinions"...


followed by unsolicited opinions.
:D

Welcome to TB... where hypocrisy is second nature.
 
#44
joeyzaza said:
He's not playing Greg Howe's music, that's one of his own tunes, Greg only plays one of his tunes on the DVD, along with another, which is just another cover of Proto Cosmos. As for the technique, you're saying it's something else than what the other guy said, who is right and who is wrong?
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Open-hammer-pluck is a variation of old school slap and pop. Rather than just slap, then pop, slap an open string, hammer on with the left hand then pop. Voila, 33.3% more notes for approximately the same amount of effort. Actually, just check the Victor Wooten link above, he explains it (and can do it!) a lot better than most.

Is that the maturity curve beginning anew, then?:smug:
 
#50
crhoton said:
That was terrible. It wasn't double thumping, BTW, it was open hammer thumping. Much different techniques. The timing, tone, and technique were all bad. I would be interested (and surprised) to see where in print or on video you saw Dennis Chambers say that this guy was one of his favorite bassists to work with. Dennis has worked with everybody, and there is no way this guy is anywhere near the top. I know people are saying that maybe THIS clip was just bad, but if he was that good, there wouldn't be a clip that bad!
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+1 A sloppy mess! If you think that's good turn on the blender for a while. LOL
 
#59
davetakis said:
i've said it before and i'll say it again," how do you argue art?"
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Actually, that's what we had to do for four straight years in art college :D

The main way you judge art is by how well the artist has accomplished the tasks he set out to do beforehand, and by the manner in which he tried to get there. You often have to look at peers of the artist working in the same genre, as the artist himself is often too byased and will change what they stated their intentions were if confronted with criticism (i.e. backpedalling).

I didn't like what he did too much, and I can base my critique off of his intentions. He obviously meant to play a lot of notes, so whether that's wanking in someone's mind or not, he succeeded there. He intended for the notes to vary and have different tones- you can tell that by the motion of his left hand and the number of different frets he's trying to play. He failed there in my mind because it did come across muddy, and the number of notes combined with the similar tone of them didn't register well as note variations. He appeared to be trying to play very rhytmically based on his playing with slap/pop (a traditionally rhythmic method of playing) and interplay with the drums. I think he didn't do great there in some parts as it seemed he was going too fast to keep a steady rhythm and missed the beat a few times.

Can I play that fast/well? No. Will Dennis Chambers ever ask me to play with him? Not a chance in hell. Does that have anything to do with me being able to say I don't like it? Not in the least. (this isn't directed at davetakis- just the other folks who seem to think ability is the only justifier for critique).
 

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