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Yup, my Pyramid Gold flats have been on my short P-bass for over 20 years and I love their sound. When I bought them, they were the same price I paid for the bass.Finally... There are 2 ways to look at the price of things. One is the upfront cost; and by that measure? Yeah, TI's are expensive. But, if you look at the amortized cost - the cost of something, spread over it's expected lifetime? TI Jazz Flats are dirt cheap. Yes, you might pay $100 for a set; but, considering that - with minimal care - they will still sound good after a decade - or MORE? That's a fraction - a very small fraction - of a cent per day. The TIJF's on my '95 Alembic have been on it for almost 16 years, now. They still feel - and sound - great. There are members here, who have gigged regularly for over 20 years, before they had to replace their TIJF's. So...
Bottom line? You can buy cheap - and replace often; or you can pay more - once - and take your time saving your spare change for the next several years - when you might need a new set of TI's....![]()
I've been very interested in the Dogal Hellborg strings (both rounds and flats) ever since I heard of them on Bass the World. I just have not yet pulled the trigger and picked up either one. What have you liked best about the rounds? What have you disliked?I have a set of Dogal Hellborg rounds on one of my fretless five-strings. They are the best roundwounds I've ever played, but they took awhile to get used to after playing flats exclusively for about three decades.
I tip my glass to ya. Cheers!Spare a thought for bass players Downunder. If I wanted the 5 string set JF345, and from a domestic source, I’d have to cough up 195-225aud for the set. Thats 129-149usd or 110-127 Euro
After I got used to the sound of rounds again, I came to appreciate their suppleness, ability to convey subtle nuance, and their uncanny ability to sound in tune all over the fingerboard. They remain one of the few rounds with a sound I don't find immediately objectionable.I've been very interested in the Dogal Hellborg strings (both rounds and flats) ever since I heard of them on Bass the World. I just have not yet pulled the trigger and picked up either one. What have you liked best about the rounds? What have you disliked?
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Are you still playing the Hellborg rounds? Their feel, tonal subtlety and nuance and the uncanny evenness you describe is very seductive. Additionally they are by far the loudest strings acoustically I’ve ever used on a hollow body. I found much of the spark dimmed as they started to die though. Two sets lasted about 5 months each at which point cost began to outweigh benefit and the experiment ended. But after playing TI flats almost exclusively for many years on my main instruments it was an interesting change.After I got used to the sound of rounds again, I came to appreciate their suppleness, ability to convey subtle nuance, and their uncanny ability to sound in tune all over the fingerboard. They remain one of the few rounds with a sound I don't find immediately objectionable.
My wife and I are in our seventh year as full-time RVers. In consequence, I only have room for one bass (and amp) per trip. When we start our next trip in January, I think I'll take my fretless five-string strung with Dogal Hellborg rounds; I haven't taken it on a trip awhile.Are you still playing the Hellborg rounds? Their feel, tonal subtlety and nuance and the uncanny evenness you describe is very seductive. Additionally they are by far the loudest strings acoustically I’ve ever used on a hollow body. I found much of the spark dimmed as they started to die though. Two sets lasted about 5 months each at which point cost began to outweigh benefit and the experiment ended. But after playing TI flats almost exclusively for many years on my main instruments it was an interesting change.
Any chance you still have the set I foolishly sent along with that Ibanez RB630 you bought from me? I should never have sold that bass, or let those strings go! Haha oh well. (I’ve got an excellent #1 Bass now and I’ve moved on from the Ibanez).They are great strings. In addition to giving you terrific tone and playability, they will balance your checkbook, weed the garden and wax your car. My TI Jazz Rounds give me a foot massage after every gig. But the Jazz Rounds are cooler, as everyone knows. I wouldn't expect that from the flats.
All flats last like that though.Rather large initial investment but when you realize they can literally last decades it makes that investment well worth it.
Every time I use Jazz Flats, I end up replacing them every 5 years just because I think it’s time. After 5 years use, there’s no noticeable degrading of performance. I don’t know of any other product that provides this kind of useful life.I’ve been using Jazz Flats for 25 years and I love them. Yes - they’re not a cheap date, but if you weigh how good they sound and feel, plus how long they last, they’re easily worth what they cost.
Any chance you still have the set I foolishly sent along with that Ibanez RB630 you bought from me? I should never have sold that bass, or let those strings go! Haha oh well. (I’ve got an excellent #1 Bass now and I’ve moved on from the Ibanez).
The last set I had purchased cost me $61.96 plus tax in December 2018, ordered from Amazon. I ordered a set from Sweetwater yesterday for $99.99 plus tax. I won’t let this set go so easily!
I’m ecstatic to put a set on my Peavey Fury IV. I genuinely believe TIJFs are some of my favorite (if not my absolute favorite) bass strings of all time.
I had no idea there were a set of flats that were this expensive…what is the deal with these?
Good point on the tariff-added fees for US buyers. I use TI flats on my Fender and TI Versum on my cellos. After "Liberation Day" I bought two sets of Versum that were already in US inventory for about US$213. Now the cheapest I can find are about $275, most dealers charge over $300. Unfortunately for cellists the best quality strings are made in Austria or Denmark.They last for much longer than most strings before going dead. More expensive to buy but cheaper in the long run.
If you're in the US, they're imported from Austria which has always added to the cost (due to shipping costs and one or more distributors each adding their own markups before they reach the retailer), but the current tariff situation has added yet another layer of expense. At Thomann they're more expensive than US strings but not twice as much.
I should add: they have their own tone and feel. If you want classic American style flats you might not like TIJFs.