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Thomastik Jazz Rounds - amazing

Hm. Interesting. Well... I cannot say it WASN'T a defective string, but it definitely did not strike me as defective - just dumpy. It went on fine, tuned to pitch correctly, never had any obvious drop in pitch as if the core had been compromised in any way. Looked fine throughout the life of the string while it was installed on the bass.

Can you tell me more about how the string you had was defective? Were there any visual signs, or other, beside crummy tone that made you believe it was borked?

Well, there was nothing visual that I recall; it was just the sound. When I put the set on, I followed my usual practice of putting one string on at a time, playing it a little bit, and retuning before putting the next string on. I usually go from low to high, but this time I went from high to low, so the .136 was the last one on.

The first five strings (I had the 6-string set) all seemed to make sense and sounded like they belonged together. But when I got to the low B, I thought, this can't be right. [johnmcenroe] "You cannot be serious!" [/johnmcenroe] It was quiet, thumpy, dull, and dead, unlike the rest of the set.

There was a guy around on one of the music forums, I forget his name, who was the US T-I distributor or something. So I contacted him, and I got a replacement low B that, though visually indistinguishable from the old one, sounded much better. That was my very first T-I set, and none of the ones I've bought since (I don't buy that many, since they last so long) have had that problem.

I'm not saying you definitely have a dud string, just that it's at least a possibility. OTOH, it could be that your bass just doesn't like those strings, or they it.

Outside possibility: If .136 is substantially bigger than you normally use, could the nut slot be too tight and pinching it a bit?

Another outside possibility: These strings have round cores. The "received wisdom" I've always heard about round-core strings is that you need to make a right-angle bend in them before cutting them to length; the idea presumably is that this keeps the wrap from slipping along the core, since it's not held in place by the edges of the core as would be the case with a hex core. I don't know enough about strings to verify this, but I've heard it many times. Not to impugn your string-changing skills--my own aren't stellar--but is it possible you didn't make a bend before cutting? It's about the only other possibility I can think of.

All this aside, the simplest explanation may be that the T-I .136 just doesn't work for you. Or that your bass is a hater.;)
 
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Have you tried TI flats on a Stingray? Barely dip the mids, boost the bass and treble slightly, omg, it's one of my favorite tones. And you can go more extreme on the previous settings for increased effect, obviously lol. It also gets better as they age. It seems to be pretty key to dip the mids a little, in my opinion. Otherwise it's just too focused and pointy on the Ray.

Let me know what you think of TI Flats on the Jazz. For me it's been an epiphany of bass playing. Everything wide open, maybe a bit of tone roll-off. Amazing!!!
I have not tried flats on the StringRay. I've heard some people swear by it but to me it just seemed wrong somehow with that bass. I just put the Sheehan Rotos on there but when they die I'll consider giving the flats a try. I'll report back here when I swap the strings out on the Jazz for TI flats.
 
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I think I paid almost $140 for the set because I couldn't find just a single B string for sale, and I've been lucky enough to snag all my regular TIJF sets for $30-45 when the price dips on Amazon.
You can definitely find single TIJF strings on Amazon, including the B. Not super easy to find (look for JF34136), but they're there. Not cheap, but a lot cheaper than a full set.
 
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I have not tried flats on the StringRay. I've heard some people swear by it but to me it just seemed wrong somehow with that bass. I just put the Sheehan Rotos on there but when they die I'll consider giving the flats a try. I'll report back here when I swap the strings out on the Jazz for TI flats.
I had a Stingray a few years ago that had rounds on it when I bought it. When I put an ancient set of Chromes on it is when the bass sounded best (to me).
 
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How come there's not more talk about TI Jazz Rounds???

I always play flats. I love TIs and LaBella LTFs. My attempts to have a bass with rounds have always failed. I always lose interest and find the tone generic and boring, metallic, zingy - until now!

Yesterday I strung up my new Jazz Bass with TI rounds, and to be honest it changed everything I know about "rounds." Smooth, warm, low finger noise, super slinky but not loose. The tone is like a well broken in set of nickels, at least from what I hear people say and it seems to make sense.

There's a lot of talk that they are very loose. Well, I don't find that to be the case playing on a JB near the bridge. In fact, it's absolutely prefect tension in this area. I could see how they may feel loose with a pick over a P pickup, but for JB fingerstyle, absolute heaven!!!

Do yourself a favor and try a set if you have a Jazz-type bass! Really cool silk color, too.


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I have to agree with JRA; there's a fair amount of love for the TIJR's around here. Although it's equally fervent, it does tend to get a little lost in the noise about the Jazz Flats, though...
Personally? Yeah, I like them, too. Although, like the TIJFs, in my world they are pretty much a One Trick Pony - but, one that does that trick superbly well. In my musical world, the TIJF's problem is that, due to their low tension/stiffness - compared to the flats on 24 of my 26 basses - the technique adjustment needed to play the TI's with a pick is... more than I want to deal with on a regular basis. So, the bass that wears them (an Alembic Epic) is always finger-picked - even though most of my basses are played with a pick. All the time. As for the TIJRs? I can easily play them with a pick - and the bass they're on (Gretsch Broadkaster) is always played that way. I bought the Jazz Rounds by mistake. The only reason they're on the Gretsch is because I'd spent the previous 12 years I owned it, trying to find strings that didn't make it sound like a hippo fart in deep mud - or a baritone guitar. I put the TIJRs on it simply because I didn't have another bass that needed medium scale length strings to put them on - and because I'd run out of strings to try. I'm glad I bought the things, because they were just the strings the Broadkaster needed. Ideally, they could use a little more bottom end - but that's the fault of the :poop: Japanese ceramic Filtertrons the bass has - the ones that belong on a guitar. The ones that Rockabilly Gretsch guitar players will kill for... The only thing I don't like about the TIJRs, and the thing that makes them a One Trick Pony - for me? They're round wounds. I really, really, dislike round wounds. Except for my MIK Rogue VB-100 (which wears Roto TruBass 88 tapewounds), the Gretsch is my only bass that doesn't wear flats. I imagine that some of my other basses might sound really good with Jazz Rounds, but... even though they're the least obnoxious rounds I've ever played? Ain't gonna happen...:whistle:
 
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About three years ago I was interested in the smoothest strings and was a flats fan (TIJFs were my favorite), when I bought a Ric - my first expensive bass - and out of a kind of respect for the Ric (oh, never mind the logic!) I wanted to put smooth rounds on it, thus TIJRs were the first rounds I ever bought.
I adjusted to them easily and really liked the beauty of their tone, so became less interested in smoothness and more interested in figuring out this beauty (short answer is the greater flexibility, which also gives clearer lows even at tone=0).

With beautiful highs taken care of, I gradually got sick of modern type flats but still like traditional type, but keep the highs rolled off.

I think that average nickel plated steel bass rounds such as those installed on most new basses are horrible, and are *most* of the reason why I always kept the tone knob clamped at zero; a bright tone is still not my favorite, but if it's there, and beautiful, I sometimes open up.
 
Is the small diameter of the E (and A) strings strange or hard to get used to at first?
Considering trying a set of jazz rounds and being so used to a 105 E has me a tiny bit concerned considering the price.
 
I've been using TI Flats on a Yamaha BBP34 and I love the feel/tension but I'm not in love with the sound, they feel a little too mid-heavy but dull on bottom/high, so I want to try something else that is also very smooth to the touch (I don't like how typical rounds feel).

I was planning on getting GHS Pressurewounds until I came across the TI Jazz Rounds. Can anyone compare the stiffness/tension between TI Jazz Flats and TI Jazz Rounds? Do the TIJRs feel looser?
 
I liked the Sheehan Rotos from day 1!

Just coming back to this thread, and wanted to say that I tried the Sheehan Rotos on the SR special and never fully came around to them. The feel was one reason but sound wasn't exactly what I was after either. The SR is a somewhat special case in part because I normally prefer passive basses and it's got a newly designed 18v 3-band EQ so it's not quite like the SRs that came before it. I do think it benefits from a brighter string which is already a harder sell for me. Anyway, I just recently got some StringJoys, Dunlop Hybrids, and Ken Smith Rock Masters to try. I put the Rock Masters on first, and wow I'm surprised I liked them right out of the package, without the usual requisite break-in time. These strings suit this bass nicely.
 
Just coming back to this thread, and wanted to say that I tried the Sheehan Rotos on the SR special and never fully came around to them. The feel was one reason but sound wasn't exactly what I was after either. The SR is a somewhat special case in part because I normally prefer passive basses and it's got a newly designed 18v 3-band EQ so it's not quite like the SRs that came before it. I do think it benefits from a brighter string which is already a harder sell for me. Anyway, I just recently got some StringJoys, Dunlop Hybrids, and Ken Smith Rock Masters to try. I put the Rock Masters on first, and wow I'm surprised I liked them right out of the package, without the usual requisite break-in time. These strings suit this bass nicely.

The bass determines the string it wants.
 
Sounds to me like these strings can be best described as "round wounds for the player who prefers flats". :)

My experience exactly. I play TI flats on my Precision bass. This year I added a Jazz bass and tried several strings including TI flats. It occurred to me that I didn't really want the Jazz bass to sound like a Precision bass and happened upon TI rounds. I tried them and loved their feel and Jazz tone. The TI Rounds work well with fingers and especially with pick. Happy camper here!
 
TI Jazz Rounds are a great match with a Jazz Bass. This J has worn Jazz Rounds since I got it in May '22 and I love the smooth feel and low tension. And they respond very well to playing dynamics and expressive techniques, I love using vibrato to add that nice chorus-like shimmer when I'm playing chords or melodic stuff.
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I've been using TI Flats on a Yamaha BBP34 and I love the feel/tension but I'm not in love with the sound, they feel a little too mid-heavy but dull on bottom/high, so I want to try something else that is also very smooth to the touch (I don't like how typical rounds feel).

I was planning on getting GHS Pressurewounds until I came across the TI Jazz Rounds. Can anyone compare the stiffness/tension between TI Jazz Flats and TI Jazz Rounds? Do the TIJRs feel looser?

The tension of Jazz Flats is low compared to other flats but pretty typical when compared to a set of roundwounds. Jazz Rounds are lower tension than a standard set of rounds and very flexible. So the rounds are lower tension than the flats. Also while they are smooth felling they are still standard rounds so something like pressurewounds will feel much smoother.
 
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