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Thoughts on this Setup

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Fletz, Jan 19, 2014.

  1. Fletz

    Fletz Supporting Member

    Jan 16, 2009
    New Jersey
    Hartke artist
    Hey guys. I am currently on the "I-Love-My-Bass-So-I'll-Play-With-Effects" kick (every 2-3 years I do this). Anyway, here is my set up:

    image by peterdannenfelser, on Flickr

    image (1) by peterdannenfelser, on Flickr

    As for the pedals:

    I play with the MXR Chorus Deluxe on almost all the time. The crossover feature is amazing and gives me the "me-tone" I've been in search of for years. Keeps the bass full and gives the upper register some "sing." Best chorus I've ever played.

    I use the MXR '78 Badass Distortion almost all the time too to dirty up my tone. The cleanliness of the Genz is awesome, but this almost makes it sound a little Ampeg-like. I boost the bass knobs on the amp to ensure I don't lose any bottom end and keep the tone on the distortion at about 10:00. I switch it off for some of the "older" tunes we do. Beatles, Paul Simon, etc.

    The MXR Envelope Filter is really just a toy. But I love having it. The Big Muff is great for "punking out" during harder songs or to fill up a little under guitar solos.

    The Markbass booster is a wonder-tool. Perfect for when I need a little bump to get some attention or when the song calls for the bass to take a little stronger position (Psycho Killer, Are You Gonna Be My Girl, etc.)

    Anyway, that's my rig. I am back in a cover band and we'll be playing regularly (I hope) and instead of pushing on getting new basses, I hope to finally settle on this set up. The two basses are all a gigging bassist needs, the Mesa cab is a monster and the electronics are very versatile. :bassist:
  2. Mortom27


    Jul 22, 2013
    Charlotte, NC
    Nice set up, I really like that 212 mesa cab i had the chance to play with a 410 & 212 mesa cabs one time using my GK1001RBII and it was a delight, been trying to get my hands on those cabs ever since.
  3. RickenBoogie


    Jul 22, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    If it were mine, I'd have some dirt in front of the filter. Makes a HUGE difference.
  4. Fletz

    Fletz Supporting Member

    Jan 16, 2009
    New Jersey
    Hartke artist
    Would you recommend putting the distortion first, then envelope, then chorus?
  5. bongomania

    bongomania Gold Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    That works.
  6. WaldoNova

    WaldoNova Having fun yet? Supporting Member

    Jun 14, 2009
    Hawthorne, NY
    I would. YMMV...
  7. BooshBass


    Sep 2, 2013
    Chicago, IL
    Envelope stays first in my opinion. I think the only that should be before an envelope filter is an octave. Get as much control over sensitivity as possible on that filter.
  8. Fletz

    Fletz Supporting Member

    Jan 16, 2009
    New Jersey
    Hartke artist
    Cool. I'll give it a go
  9. Fletz

    Fletz Supporting Member

    Jan 16, 2009
    New Jersey
    Hartke artist
    So I'm going to go:

    Env -> Dist -> Chorus -> Fuzz -> Boost
  10. SirMjac28

    SirMjac28 Patiently Waiting For The Next British Invasion

    Aug 25, 2010
    The Great Midwest
    No compressor?
  11. Fletz

    Fletz Supporting Member

    Jan 16, 2009
    New Jersey
    Hartke artist
    No. Try to keep dynamics as much as I can and always screw up compression. :)
  12. Mvilmany


    Mar 13, 2013
    Upstate NY

    I agree with this. The Envelope Filter is basically an auto Wah. I found that I always put Wah before dirt on guitar, and I put envelope before dirt on bass as well. Reversing it produces a different type of sound and I respect anyone's choice to do that.
  13. BooshBass


    Sep 2, 2013
    Chicago, IL
    I have oct > env > fuzz > wah > od. Get that synthy sweep with fuzz before wah and airy envelopy distortion with od after wah

    The best of both worlds
  14. I like having envelope filters and pitch effects such as octavers first. The tracking is better IMO. The dirt part comes after.
  15. eveilleu

    eveilleu Supporting Member

    Oct 30, 2013
    Montreal, Qc
    I think Fuzz into an envelope is awesome! I Like to put it at the very end, with octave being the very first (tuner doesn't count) and dirt in between, but that's just me! :p

  16. David Beers

    David Beers

    Jan 2, 2013
    Sales, Marketing, Design @ Brimstone Audio
    Although for most purposes, yes, envelope first, you CAN get cool, synthy type sounds by putting distortion in front. Bootsy famously ran his big muff into his Mutron. Just a different thing.

    Mild overdrive in front can compress your peaks and actually make the envelope filter respond more consistently.
  17. I like dirt before filters/wahs. If I had your pedals I would go Muff>distortion>filter>chorus. I don't know where I'd put the boost. Either first or last or after the distortion.
  18. Fletz

    Fletz Supporting Member

    Jan 16, 2009
    New Jersey
    Hartke artist
    I just went into the garage and ran env-Dist-chorus-muff-boost. Just having Dist and chorus running was the best sound I've heard in a while. A little tube like into a good well set chorus was gorgeous. I turned the tone on the distortion up a little and boosted the bass on the amp. I am excited to hear it in the mix with my band. The muff sounded very nice there, btw, at the end of the chain. (Boost stayed off for now)