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Thunderbird Club

I am so tempted to get in the car and cruise out the 60 to Rancho to take a look at it.
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You should! :thumbsup:

And if you decide after you buy it, that you want to change the pickups, I'll take the old ones ;)


Do you have issues with your hand?

Yes, the right hand (separate from the old damage to the left fingers.....)

Some nerve damage from carpal tunnel (not bad enough for surgery, apparently :meh: ), plus some other, as yet undetermined, issue(s) :banghead:
 
You should! :thumbsup:

And if you decide after you buy it, that you want to change the pickups, I'll take the old ones ;)




Yes, the right hand (separate from the old damage to the left fingers.....)

Some nerve damage from carpal tunnel (not bad enough for surgery, apparently :meh: ), plus some other, as yet undetermined, issue(s) :banghead:
Eaton allergy?
 
You should! :thumbsup:

And if you decide after you buy it, that you want to change the pickups, I'll take the old ones ;)




Yes, the right hand (separate from the old damage to the left fingers.....)

Some nerve damage from carpal tunnel (not bad enough for surgery, apparently :meh: ), plus some other, as yet undetermined, issue(s) :banghead:

Sorry to hear this - I tried the copper-treaded gloves but not sure they did much. Some people say they help.
 
:drool:
…. I believe @GBassNorth had the stock tone cap changed for a 0.022 on his Goth and I recall him saying it opened up the bass even more and made it louder.

Hope this helps,
cheers,

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Exactly correct!
If you have a stock Goth and are considering changing its sound, I would STRONGLY suggest removing the stock tone cap and replacing it with a .022uf one. The difference it makes is mind blowing (and nearly speaker blowing as well). The stock pickups are very hot but that stock tone cap throws a wet blanket on them. The new cap costs all of $5 or less, takes 10 minutes to install and lets the Goth retain its outward stock appearance.

Before the change I was setting my neck pup volume on about 9 and bridge at about 5 with the tone knob at about 8. What I got sounded good, but I was clearly about out of room to go any brighter and nudging the tone knob down below 5 turned the output to indistinguishable overly bassy notes. As Mike said, it sounded like it was being played on the other side of a wall.

After the change my settings are neck volume at about 2 or 3, bridge volume off and tone off. At that setting I get incredibly loud and clear super deep tone with tons of lower mids, nice balanced mids and upper mids and a rolled off but still present top end. Besides letting the pickups breathe and not sound choked it negated the need to roll in the bridge pickup for necessary clarity and gave me a full range tone knob again.

But be warned you’ll get a huge volume boost, so first time playing after the mod, go easy on the volume level. I wasn’t aware of that when I did mine and just left the volume and tone settings in pre mod positions. Hit an open E and nearly knocked the house off its foundation.
 
I've not had a chance to spend much time with them yet, but I can tell they'll be an adjustment - but I've been using a pick since the early 90s. Learning to play fingerstyle is a work in progress still.....

Anyways, the way I hold a pick has evolved over the years, and is obviously "incorrect" - I hold it primarily between my thumb and middle finger, with that finger nearer the "point", with the index finger sorta half on, at the front? corner. It's apparently a bit weird.....

The BM pick will let me hold it at the same angle, with the same amount of point.... protrusion?, if I use my index finger only. So, an adjustment, but I should be able to manage it with some practice.

I have also noticed, the spring is tight. Finding a comfortable position for the clip will take a bit of work/practice/acclimation, at least for me.

I do like the feel of the pick part so far, and the spring & clip seem well made, not cheap & flimsy.


Still experimenting obviously, but initial impressions & tests are positive :thumbsup:





I would use the past tense of that, but the replies......:nailbiting:


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I use 1.14 picks as well, primarily Jim Dunlop U.S.A. "H" - in red, of course.

The heavy gauge BM pick, conveniently (for me) the ones with the red finger-clip, are the same shape, size & thickness, as far as I can tell.

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One area of adjustment for me, is the slight texture that you mentioned - on the Jim Dunlops, I keep the writing (textured) under my thumb. The BM writing (textured) is on the opposite side I'm used to, under the index finger.....

But for me, that cupping technique you're talking about, aggravates the problem with my hand that is causing me problems with holding a pick.

So, atm at least, I've got to adjust to these new picks (if they help), or be stuck with only being able to play *maybe* one song with a pick....:(
I always found thumb picks too tight and uncomfortable, if comfortable they would move around. I'm weird, I hold a pick basically upside down and play with what would be one of the two top rounded edges. The pick doesn't want to spin that way. It really can't hurt my playing....
 
You should! :thumbsup:

And if you decide after you buy it, that you want to change the pickups, I'll take the old ones ;)




Yes, the right hand (separate from the old damage to the left fingers.....)

Some nerve damage from carpal tunnel (not bad enough for surgery, apparently :meh: ), plus some other, as yet undetermined, issue(s) :banghead:

Kara,

Please take care of your hands. They’re the only ones you’ve got.

You know me, and you know I want to. I love the Epi Blackbird you passed along to me. I can’t justify another $2K bass. I’m going to stay put for now and tweak what I have. And maybe off a couple non T-birds.

I do intend to get another head this year, one I’ve wanted for years. And another cab. Maybe a fridge for the SVT and use the wonderful Berg NV 610 with the new head. Then (I swear) I’ll be done amp wise. Although I want to add another Subway cab to the Mesa rig. Probably a 210. Then I’ll be done.
 
Exactly correct!
If you have a stock Goth and are considering changing its sound, I would STRONGLY suggest removing the stock tone cap and replacing it with a .022uf one. The difference it makes is mind blowing (and nearly speaker blowing as well). The stock pickups are very hot but that stock tone cap throws a wet blanket on them. The new cap costs all of $5 or less, takes 10 minutes to install and lets the Goth retain its outward stock appearance.

Before the change I was setting my neck pup volume on about 9 and bridge at about 5 with the tone knob at about 8. What I got sounded good, but I was clearly about out of room to go any brighter and nudging the tone knob down below 5 turned the output to indistinguishable overly bassy notes. As Mike said, it sounded like it was being played on the other side of a wall.

After the change my settings are neck volume at about 2 or 3, bridge volume off and tone off. At that setting I get incredibly loud and clear super deep tone with tons of lower mids, nice balanced mids and upper mids and a rolled off but still present top end. Besides letting the pickups breathe and not sound choked it negated the need to roll in the bridge pickup for necessary clarity and gave me a full range tone knob again.

But be warned you’ll get a huge volume boost, so first time playing after the mod, go easy on the volume level. I wasn’t aware of that when I did mine and just left the volume and tone settings in pre mod positions. Hit an open E and nearly knocked the house off its foundation.
Kind of like V’s bird with Lulls when I hit the open A. I thought Chucky’s house was going to come down.
 
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Kara,

Please take care of your hands. They’re the only ones you’ve got.

You know me, and you know I want to. I love the Epi Blackbird you passed along to me. I can’t justify another $2K bass. I’m going to stay put for now and tweak what I have. And maybe off a couple non T-birds.

I do intend to get another head this year, one I’ve wanted for years. And another cab. Maybe a fridge for the SVT and use the wonderful Berg NV 610 with the new head. Then (I swear) I’ll be done amp wise. Although I want to add another Subway cab to the Mesa rig. Probably a 210. Then I’ll be done.


I know how you feel - I've got to get rid of a few more basses too. The ones that get used the least will be the first to go.....

I'm going to get rid of some amps too, I ended up with more than intended, and probably the 'fridge after I re-do the covering to make it a bit more presentable.

I would, however, like to find another Peavey 215D cab at some point, to match with the one I have.....
 
I know how you feel - I've got to get rid of a few more basses too. The ones that get used the least will be the first to go.....

I'm going to get rid of some amps too, I ended up with more than intended, and probably the 'fridge after I re-do the covering to make it a bit more presentable.

I would, however, like to find another Peavey 215D cab at some point, to match with the one I have.....
I can not fathom two Peavy 215s. You’ll collapse the 12th Street bridge with that rig.