Thunderbird Club

[dagrev]

The “bride pickup”? Is that something like carrying your newlywed over the threshold? Or is it more kinky than that?

I'd rather not say.

 

[GBassNorth]

What I find interesting, between the two, is how the bridge lines up with the knobs. Forget that the Burny is string-through for a minute.

The fingerboards meet the body at the same fret. The pickguards sit beside the pickups at essentially the same spot (look at the screws). Granted, the Epi in the pic has leaned over a little bit. The Burny fits nicely into an Epiphone case - just not quite as snug as the bass it was intended for. That tells me the bodies are slightly different.

But then look at the bridge studs in relation to the control knobs. The Burny's is at the Tone knob, rather than the middle knob. Also, the Burny bridge PU is next to the first knob. It appears to my eyes that the Burny bridge sits closer to the end of the body, than the Epi's does. So am I getting more scale length?

Assuming they are both the same 34” scale (you’d have to measure from the G string saddle to the nut to confirm), it looks to me like both the Burny pickups are closer to the neck than the CP pickups. That theoretically would make the Burny tend to be darker and creamier sounding vs the CP, which should be a bit punchier and more capable of creating grit and grind. It’s hard to tell for sure from the photos because of the different angles of each shot, but the angle of the butt on the Burny (from the upper rear bout to the lower rear bout) looks to be a bit sharper.

 

[Engle]

What I find interesting, between the two, is how the bridge lines up with the knobs. Forget that the Burny is string-through for a minute.

The fingerboards meet the body at the same fret. The pickguards sit beside the pickups at essentially the same spot (look at the screws). Granted, the Epi in the pic has leaned over a little bit. The Burny fits nicely into an Epiphone case - just not quite as snug as the bass it was intended for. That tells me the bodies are slightly different.

But then look at the bridge studs in relation to the control knobs. The Burny's is at the Tone knob, rather than the middle knob. Also, the Burny bridge PU is next to the first knob. It appears to my eyes that the Burny bridge sits closer to the end of the body, than the Epi's does. So am I getting more scale length?

Grab a tape measure and compare the scale length. I think the difference is in the body shape, but it's hard to know from photos.

 

[Syd Rayne]

Assuming they are both the same 34” scale (you’d have to measure from the G string saddle to the nut to confirm), it looks to me like both the Burny pickups are closer to the neck than the CP pickups. That theoretically would make the Burny tend to be darker and creamier sounding vs the CP, which should be a bit punchier and more capable of creating grit and grind. It’s hard to tell for sure from the photos because of the different angles of each shot, but the angle of the butt on the Burny (from the upper rear bout to the lower rear bout) looks to be a bit sharper.

In the meantime, for some data collecting, here's what I discovered with the tape measure....

The distance from the front of the nut to the bridge studs is: (drum roll....)

• Burny = 34 1/2 inches
• Epi = 34 3/4 inches

So, the photos are messing with my perception! I know that's not what you measure for scale length.

The Burny is 17" from the front of nut to the 12th fret wire. Which means 34" scale. Mind blown.

 

[Syd Rayne]

I'm certain that the Burny body has minor differences along the perimeter - no doubt because of copy restrictions and such. I do like that more rakish slant to the butt than what the Epi has going on.

And as GBassNorth pointed out - the Burny PU's are closer to the neck.

I can run it into my Boss CS-3 and then dial up the amp mid & high and it sounds as good (if not punchier) than the 2013 Epi.

 

[Engle]

In the meantime, for some data collecting, here's what I discovered with the tape measure....

The distance from the front of the nut to the bridge studs is: (drum roll....)

• Burny = 34 1/2 inches
• Epi = 34 3/4 inches

So, the photos are messing with my perception! I know that's not what you measure for scale length.

The Burny is 17" from the front of nut to the 12th fret wire. Which means 34" scale. Mind blown.

So it's the body shapes that differ. I like the Burny shape.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

View attachment 5042117 Hi all! I'm a newbie. I've been trying to learn how to play bass for a couple years and decided to upgrade to a Thunderbird! Love it so far.
I'm excited to learn from the experience and knowledge of this group!
Can I join?

Welcome! And you just did.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Looks like an Epi IV but what the heck is the bridge and claw?

Update: maybe I should read before posting...but that would be a first.

It almost had to be an Epi based on the pickups. I've never seen those three screw pickups on any other birds. I suppose someone *could* have retrofitted a pair to a Gibson or Greco, but ...

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Why would you read before posting? I obviously don't do that. It would be like using the search function. Strictly prohibited if you can just ask another question that's the same.

Why would you read before posting?

 

[Syd Rayne]

So it's the body shapes that differ. I like the Burny shape.

Agreed. The Burny almost has an Explorer edge to it. Whereas the Epi has a Rubenesque tush to it.

Just to be fair, the Epi is facing the camera head on, and the Burny has a slight tilt to the right, which may accentuate the perspective along the bottom. Regardless of that, I'm concluding that the Epi has more wood between the bridge and the body end, instead of the Burny having it's bridge set further back. Engle was right. The control knob locations are the proof.

 

[Gaolee]

The “bride pickup”? Is that something like carrying your newlywed over the threshold? Or is it more kinky than that?

Way more kinky. And risky. But it might be fun.

 

[Instagator]

Two for Tuesday...! Finally getting around to posting them. Now I can be member # 900 ?

Black and White... or Spy vs Spy. My 2011 Burny Bird and 2013 Epi Bird.

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Spy vs Spy on twofer Tuesday?
I’m in.

 

[MCF]

Spy vs Spy on twofer Tuesday?
I’m in.
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You have two SVTs?
Two X twofer Tuesday?

 

[Stealth57]

Spy vs Spy on twofer Tuesday?
I’m in.
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I can’t play because my white CP was a red PG.

 

[PillO]

Looks like an Epi IV but what the heck is the bridge and claw?

Update: maybe I should read before posting...but that would be a first.

Reading before responding would really reduce the entertainment factor of posts. Next you are going to want an accurate reading of the post too.

 

[PillO]

Keeps people on their toes.
Just as long as we don't see pics of any.
Give me watermelons all day every day

Your wish is my command...

 

[PillO]

What they had:
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What they wanted:
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Another who attended the @WillyW school of phootography.

 

[JJR58]

Reading before responding would really reduce the entertainment factor of posts. Next you are going to want an accurate reading of the post too.

CLASSIC!

 

[PillO]

That's ok, i've got a strong stomach.
And just for that, I will now summon @PillO
Do your handy work Sir PillO.

You rang?

I recommend these fabulous shoes when doing Phootography

 

[PillO]

Can we not get carried away here?

But it is what we do...