Thunderbird Club

[bobyoung53]

Another @Chucky Stiletti type question. The spec on the 200s is 60W at 16ohms. Is there any reason that I couldn't play that into my 215m, which is 4ohms? I do have other options at 8ohms (MM 115RH and Trace Elliott 210).

I'm not Chuck but I wouldn't run it at 4 ohms, maybe the cab has two 8 ohm speakers in parallel? If so you could rewire it in series for an impedance of 16 ohms. Some tube amps are ok at half under and doubled but I won't do it. With tube amps I always run them at the correct impedance.

 

[Stealth57]

I'm not Chuck but I wouldn't run it at 4 ohms, maybe the cab has two 8 ohm speakers in parallel? If so you could rewire it in series for an impedance of 16 ohms. Some tube amps are ok at half under and doubled but I won't do it. With tube amps I always run them at the correct impedance.

Don’t want to mess with the 215m as it is matched to the Concert Bass at 200W at 4ohms.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

Don’t want to mess with the 215m as it is matched to the Concert Bass at 200W at 4ohms.

I wouldn't worry, just run your 4 Ohm into the EXT Sprk with NOTHING plugged into the main spkr....

 

[TBird1958]

yeah, bring it so I can trade you for this….I don’t mind the gold knobs…..
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I swear the body on my BaCH is thinner..........Gonna look at that when I get home.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

That's how I hold a pick. Bad technique, but unlikely to change!

If it works for you, it's good technique.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

I remember him on the Smothers Brothers Show a lot.

Hollywood Squares!

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Yeah I should try out a chrome bird on a black PG.

I want a chrome bird. Kinda rough on the audience if they look right at it as the light is reflected, though.

 

[bobyoung53]

Hollywood Squares!

Yeah. Hey, ya gotta make a buck somehow.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

I didn't even recognize her at first.

Who? Who who? Who who who who? Who are you^H^H^H^H^H^H^His she?

 

[GBassNorth]

Love Acer Japonicum.

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At my last house in KY, I planted a number of those. They grow fast and can be shaped and layered quite nicely. Here’s one I had in one of my hosta gardens…

I did all my own landscaping (planting, trimming, shaping, weeding, gravel mulching, lawn, you name it). When a nursery would deliver a tree or shrubs to the house they’d just look in awe, I had more plant selections and better gardens than most of the nurseries in the area. Used to even cultivate and cross breed my own flowers and ship the seeds and tubers to friends and relatives.
Then I moved to SoCal, in the middle of a drought and couldn’t grow crap for the last decade. I miss my gardens.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

I swear the body on my BaCH is thinner..........Gonna look at that when I get home.

68 on the left….not only thinner but bigger?..….

 

[Miles_ONeal]

I'm not Chuck but I wouldn't run it at 4 ohms, maybe the cab has two 8 ohm speakers in parallel? If so you could rewire it in series for an impedance of 16 ohms. Some tube amps are ok at half under and doubled but I won't do it. With tube amps I always run them at the correct impedance.

Most tube amps can go double impedance, though if you drive them hard it can be risky. Half impedance or less is almost always safe. With a tube amp, a short is safer than an open output. If you put any kind of power into a tube amp with no load (or just a high load for that amp), it will blow. With old school solid state amps, the danger is short circuits.

Modern solid state amps have protection.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Yeah. Hey, ya gotta make a buck somehow.

It wasn't a diss. He was a fave on there!

 

[Stealth57]

I want a chrome bird. Kinda rough on the audience if they look right at it as the light is reflected, though.

Had that happen to me at the Winterland. Ronnie Montrose had a chrome guitar he used for Bad Motor Scooter. I’m blind and it had nothing to do with the wacky tobaccy.

 

[BklynKen]

Who? Who who? Who who who who? Who are you^H^H^H^H^H^H^His she?

Kim Gordon from Sonic Youth.

 

[GBassNorth]

I want a chrome bird. Kinda rough on the audience if they look right at it as the light is reflected, though.

You can finish a wood bass in a chrome coat, Warwick does it with the Robert Trujillo model. Here’s one in blue chrome…

 

[Stealth57]

I wouldn't worry, just run your 4 Ohm into the EXT Sprk with NOTHING plugged into the main spkr....
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Can you explain why as if I’m an …fill in the blank.

 

[bobyoung53]

Most tube amps can go double impedance, though if you drive them hard it can be risky. Half impedance or less is almost always safe. With a tube amp, a short is safer than an open output. If you put any kind of power into a tube amp with no load (or just a high load for that amp), it will blow. With old school solid state amps, the danger is short circuits.

Modern solid state amps have protection.

Oh yeah, I'm familiar enough with them. I've actually had amps red plate on me with double impedance, old Fenders and an Ampeg. I cut an SVT cab into two 410 8 ohms cabs years ago and ran it that way at one point with one cab into the main out and the other into the ex out which ran off the 2 ohm tap before I knew anything, and it just never sounded right, less power and it distorted way sooner than it should. It never bothered the amp but it never sounded right, when I bought an adapter at Rat Shack that allowed me to plug them both in the 4 ohm output the difference was very noticeable. I even had a guitarist I knew well tell me there was something wrong with the amp and he was right. So I always stick with the specs now.

 

[dagrev]

They came from my area, Worcester, Mass and I saw them in a local club before they got big, great live band, you could tell there were going to go places, I hope I haven't posted that here 100 times before.

You have--104 times actually, but who's counting? But it's still all true! Would have been one fun band to see and even better to be in.

 

[bobyoung53]

You have--104 times actually, but who's counting? But it's still all true! Would have been one fun band to see and even better to be in.

Did I ever tell you where I saw them?