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Thunderbird Club

My Pro 5 is the only Thunderbird I've had that I'd say has a neck dive "problem".
Re-locating the strap buttons helped a bit, but imo there's no real way to overcome that much headstock weight, with that light of a body, without using some kind of extender like @JIO posted



The push/pull on the Sadowsky pre-amp in my Jazz bass is solid shaft....

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I've never had a neck dive problem with my 67Gibby. Even with that humungous headstock.
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'Course it is a NR.:smug:
 
i cant find my name on the eternal tbird club roster im sadden and hating it

You are here good sir, #817. Be happy and in good health always! :)



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I'm in the process of downsizing but up-grading my rehearsal space rig. I realized I spend more time there than gigging, and that experience continually cements my connection with the musicians I rehearse with as creative coconspirators and as friends. Our beautiful space is gifted to us (both BG & TSC bands) by our guitarist Paul and his very tolerant wife Sandy. We rehearse twice a week for 3hrs each night so volume is always major issue. Also, it's in a close proximity (house to house) SF neighborhood. What I have been using there is way overkill for our needs; a Mesa Boogie M2000 650watt head and 1x18 Carvin ported cab - never exceeding 9:00 volume. It sounds great but it is way more rig than is required. So both the Mesa and Carvin are for sale here on tb, and here's what I am replacing it with -

As already posted, the amp is an all tube 30watt Ashdown "Little Bastard 30" - tone heaven.. a beautiful sounding & looking amp.

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Matched with a 1x15 German made EICH (pronounced E-cah-ha... translates to "oak") ported 4ohm 400watt cab with an adjustable 4" tweeter. (low-off-high) It even has a cool 45degree rod attachment that can be used for more intimate gigs like a monitor. (tilt-rod clips conveniently under the rear-bottom of the cab)
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The LB30 (which I already previewed and love) coupled with this cab should provide all the bass-sounds needed in our rehearsal space presence and volume-wise. I'm hoping it will be tailor-made in this regard. I considered their 2x12 cab (more $$$) but 1x15 is something I've grown quite fond of tonally. This cab is light and efficient and "German engineered" so I'm anticipating it will sound awesome with the LB30. Will provide a review once it's here and rocked. :bassist:

My (nameless) "amp tech-guru/awesome bass-player/friend" who you all know guided me to this rig-combo, of which I am eternally grateful for his generous expertise. :)
 
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Some options...

Best option - custom removable peg extension. (bolt-on only)
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For a 34" scale 8-string SG-style set neck-diver ...
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next - easy peasy... works on any Gen1 style bird
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And another dive-killer... heavy Koa bodied custom headless bird (Factorbird fretless) luthier skills required. ;)
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That’s a really interesting bolt on extender. It’s not an aesthetic I choose, but bravo!
 
You never know what you’ll find under the cover. I’ll take it!
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@MCF
Marshall, take note of that pic. Irv has the exact same issue as your white Eppi. The output jack tip contacting the control box cover shielding and grounding out. Note that he’s installed a piece of electric tape over the shielding to break the contact. Apparently yours isn’t the only bird with that issue, Tbirds do have shallow control cavities.
 
That’s a really interesting bolt on extender. It’s not an aesthetic I choose, but bravo!

Thanks, I could get all fancy aesthetically about it, but I wanted it to blend in (with dark/black shirt) and not call attention to itself. Bottom line - no neck dive. I accept your 'bravo'. :)
 
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Marshall, take note of that pic. Irv has the exact same issue as your white Eppi. The output jack tip contacting the control box cover shielding and grounding out. Note that he’s installed a piece of electric tape over the shielding to break the contact. Apparently yours isn’t the only bird with that issue, Tbirds do have shallow control cavities.
Must be a very tight tolerance as I have the same 2010 white CS/LE and don’t have any static issues.
 
And the bridge on my Pro IV is a pain in the arse to intonate. The saddle height allen screws bind up when sliding front to back. A screw driver and strong fingers are a definite requirement. Now that it’s intonated I hope those set screws keep the saddles from moving.
The bridge on my V was apparently installed wrong at the factory and warped, so I replaced it with the appropriate Hipshot.
 
@MCF
Marshall, take note of that pic. Irv has the exact same issue as your white Eppi. The output jack tip contacting the control box cover shielding and grounding out. Note that he’s installed a piece of electric tape over the shielding to break the contact. Apparently yours isn’t the only bird with that issue, Tbirds do have shallow control cavities.

I've run into this a number of times - things that shouldn't touch touching. Electrical tape is always the 1st tact/solution, and sometimes routing deeper is the ultimate solution.
 
Must be a very tight tolerance as I have the same 2010 white CS/LE and don’t have any static issues.
It’s a very tight tolerance. In Marshall’s case the recess area inside the control cavity for the output jack needs to be maybe 1/64th of an inch deeper to prevent the contact. In Irv’s case it looks as though the output jack isn’t set in a recess at all, hence the electric tape on the cover.
 
I'm in the process of downsizing but up-grading my rehearsal space rig. I realized I spend more time there than gigging, and that experience continually cements my connection with the musicians I rehearse with as creative coconspirators and as friends. Our beautiful space is gifted to us (both BG & TSC bands) by our guitarist Paul and his very tolerant wife Sandy. We rehearse twice a week for 3hrs each night so volume is always major issue. Also, it's in a close proximity (house to house) SF neighborhood. What I have been using there is way overkill for our needs; a Mesa Boogie M2000 650watt head and 1x18 Carvin ported cab - never exceeding 9:00 volume. It sounds great but it is way more rig than is required. So both the Mesa and Carvin are for sale here on tb, and here's what I am replacing it with -

As already posted, the amp is an all tube 30watt Ashdown "Little Bastard 30" - tone heaven.. a beautiful sounding & looking amp.

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Matched with a 1x15 German made EICH (pronounced E-cah-ha... translates to "oak") ported 4ohm 400watt cab with an adjustable 4" tweeter. (low-off-high) It even has a cool 45degree rod attachment that can be used for more intimate gigs like a monitor. (tilt-rod clips conveniently under the rear-bottom of the cab)
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The LB30 (which I already previewed and love) coupled with this cab should provide all the bass-sounds needed in our rehearsal space presence and volume-wise. I'm hoping it will be tailor-made in this regard. I considered their 2x12 cab (more $$$) but 1x15 is something I've grown quite fond of tonally. This cab is light and efficient and "German engineered" so I'm anticipating it will sound awesome with the LB30. Will provide a review once it's here and rocked. :bassist:

My (nameless) "amp tech-guru/awesome bass-player/friend" who you all know guided me to this rig-combo, of which I am eternally grateful for his generous expertise. :)
pretty awesome G…can’t wait to hear it..:thumbsup::thumbsup::hyper::bassist:
btw, the NR performed flawlessly at its baptism of fire at the Prunedale Legion on Fri eve….THANK YOU!..
 
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I've run into this a number of times - things that shouldn't touch touching. Electrical tape is always the 1st tact/solution, and sometimes routing deeper is the ultimate solution.
It's why I don't like the braided wire on the Probuckers. Easy for the braid to come into contact with the studs on the pots.
 

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