Yeah, we do that on a coupla numbers.
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Thunderbird Club
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- Jun 30, 2010
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I think the industry dictates that and other than a few incidences over decades have always mostly buried the bass in the mix. Those incidences have be '60s Motown/Wrecking Crew/Muscle Shoals, generally '70s Funk & Disco, '80s New Wave where the bass was out front, and some bands/songs since then. (Pixies, Primus, RHCP's and other more recent examples) It always happens when I have recorded with my bands over the years - I have to ask for more pronounced bass from the board when doing post-recording balancing/mixing as it's buried by everything else.
The other reason is how music is delivered now - all very compressed to sound "good" over phones. (not headphones!)
Legendary producer Jerry Wexler replied without hesitation when asked what he wanted inscribed into his headstone - "More Bass"
Jerry Wexler - Wikipedia
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As I've said B4, I had a SVT/Fridge rig for ~2 1/2 years. Never got what I wanted outta it.
I’m not sure how my comments on @TBird1958 good looks has anything to do with Fender amps, but I’m sure someone will explain it to me.
All this blueness coming up when I’m unable to pull the trigger on anything. No one ever said life is fair.
You drop out for a couple of numbers? I should try that.
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I agree - I'm continually working to make my bass-lines with BG & TSC as sparse as possible (including dropping out) for the dynamics you describe. Especially over the length of a song - I start by sparsely establishing the root notes and add seasoning over the verses/choruses. A slow/deliberate build-up always charges the song for a big ending/release.
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I’m glad my GAS is gone.
The work that’s been done on mine, (and one more to be finished) has satisfied my itch.
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I feel like the kid in high school who couldn’t afford gas and had to ride a bike everywhere.
Ugh!
But look at it this way.
You have a good family and 2 nice homes.
And lots of basses.
Geo - always enjoy reading your observations. Insightful and informative. Hadn’t really made the connection with the prevalence of micro speakers in phones, laptops and iPads (primary listening devices these days) and how that’s driving how sound is mixed.
Compare that with the monster Cerwin Vega and Pioneer speakers and subwoofers that we listened through in the 70’s through the 90’s home stereo systems as our primary music listening devices.
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Yah, the other perplexing exception was the advent of boom-boxes and those sub-woofers in cars -
We've gone full circle, bass used to be mixed for transistor radios; hence Pbasses, now compressed for smartphones. Doesn't explain the heavy kicks. I guess those are for oversized subs in cars (and side by sides)
One thing I've had to turn to in my mixing gigs is parallel saturation to make the bass more perceptibly audible on smaller speakers
- Jun 30, 2010
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- Jun 30, 2010
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- musician/artist/owner - Gildaxe
The over-emphasized kick is a club thing - sooo loud, it drowns the bass out! Don't know the rationality behind it.
Gaolee
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Shoot, or maybe PHWEW! It's a fiver. Otherwise I might be shopping a kidney.
