Thunderbird Club

[Engle]

Yes, using the definition of 'breathing' as something 'living' - you are correct, but it's somewhat true if talking about acoustic instruments. 'Somewhat' because "breathe" is used in a specific way. More 'to move' with humidity and temperature changes - so loosely "breathing". (wood expanding/contracting) But if it has a thick finish the constricts movement/"breathing" - it will sound less "alive". At least that's how I have always interpreted it. The exaggerated use of 'breathing' is if talking about solid-bodied instruments. Necks will move due to temperature/humidity etc, but a solid wood body... ah..,no.

It makes sense that the thickness and type of finish affects the vibration of an acoustic instrument top. (From what I've read the sealer type/thickness actually makes more difference than the top coat).
I believe the effects of temperature and humidity have more to do with the geometry of the guitar changing: it's going to sound different if the neck moves.

But to say that a nitro finish on a bass guitar lets the wood breathe and is thereby superior...

 

[Miles_ONeal]

It ain't real unless the stein is 1 liter. Prost

And non-alcoholic beer counts. I heard on NPR that Germany is now a world leader in NA beer consumption.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Yes, using the definition of 'breathing' as something 'living' - you are correct, but it's somewhat true if talking about acoustic instruments. 'Somewhat' because "breathe" is used in a specific way. More 'to move' with humidity and temperature changes - so loosely "breathing". (wood expanding/contracting) But if it has a thick finish the constricts movement/"breathing" - it will sound less "alive". At least that's how I have always interpreted it. The exaggerated use of 'breathing' is if talking about solid-bodied instruments. Necks will move due to temperature/humidity etc, but a solid wood body... ah..,no.

A solid body can expand/contract with temp, but not with humidity unless it can breathe- which means only in its cavities with (e.g.) a poly finish. And I want it to do that as little as possible.

 

[Stealth57]

And non-alcoholic beer counts. I heard on NPR that Germany is now a world leader in NA beer consumption.

 

[JIO]

It makes sense that the thickness and type of finish affects the vibration of an acoustic instrument top. (From what I've read the sealer type/thickness actually makes more difference than the top coat).
I believe the effects of temperature and humidity have more to do with the geometry of the guitar changing: it's going to sound different if the neck moves.

But to say that a nitro finish on a bass guitar lets the wood breathe and is thereby superior...

There's ongoing myths in guitar-world about lacquer and they are propagated in an attempt to convince someone of how special it is in order to sell you something. I like and use lacquer for certain specific reasons but I know enough about finishing products to only consider it as a choice among many options which work well depending on application need.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

This is being brewed at least in some cases by top notch German breweries. The Germans wouldn't be consuming swill. They leave that to the USA.

 

[GonePlaid]

Yes, using the definition of 'breathing' as something 'living' - you are correct, but it's somewhat true if talking about acoustic instruments. 'Somewhat' because "breathe" is used in a specific way. More 'to move' with humidity and temperature changes - so loosely "breathing". (wood expanding/contracting) But if it has a thick finish the constricts movement/"breathing" - it will sound less "alive". At least that's how I have always interpreted it. The exaggerated use of 'breathing' is if talking about solid-bodied instruments. Necks will move due to temperature/humidity etc, but a solid wood body... ah..,no.

Right. And that's why the 67 NR has all those nicks in the lower bout. So it can breathe.
I also have a bridge for sale.
ADDENDUM: And so begins year 79.

 

[RedVee]

This is being brewed at least in some cases by top notch German breweries. The Germans wouldn't be consuming swill. They leave that to the USA.

Even Guinness do a zero version. I tried a local brand, Carlton Zero version. Horrible stuff. Only saving grace was it was cheap without the excises our Govt charges on alcoholic beverages. Took me weeks to get through the 4 pack.
But the zero alcohol beers seem to be a thing atm.

Many years ago we had supermarket supplied no alcohol “brewed soft drinks” - they weren’t legally “beer” at the time - they were horrible too.

Not a fan.

 

[JIO]

Right. And that's why the 67 NR has all those nicks in the lower bout. So it can breathe.
I also have a bridge for sale.

Guitar-world has no lack of BS.

 

[JIO]

Even Guinness do a zero version. I tried a local brand, Carlton Zero version. Horrible stuff. Only saving grace was it was cheap without the excises our Govt charges on alcoholic beverages. Took me weeks to get through the 4 pack.
But the zero alcohol beers seem to be a thing atm.

Many years ago we had supermarket supplied no alcohol “brewed soft drinks” - they weren’t legally “beer” at the time - they were horrible too.

Not a fan.

I recall a brand in the '70s called "Near-Beer" ... should have called it "Don't Bother Beer"

 

[Engle]

There's ongoing myths in guitar-world about lacquer and they are propagated in an attempt to convince someone of how special it is in order to sell you something. I like and use lacquer for certain specific reasons but I know enough about finishing products to only consider it as a choice among many options which work well depending on application need.

I like lacquer finishes, and the way they age.

 

[Count Bassie]

It's funny that they slurred 'sluts' and muted 'piss'.

Ghost Town. Love that tune.

 

[Engle]

Even Guinness do a zero version. I tried a local brand, Carlton Zero version. Horrible stuff. Only saving grace was it was cheap without the excises our Govt charges on alcoholic beverages. Took me weeks to get through the 4 pack.
But the zero alcohol beers seem to be a thing atm.

Many years ago we had supermarket supplied no alcohol “brewed soft drinks” - they weren’t legally “beer” at the time - they were horrible too.

Not a fan.

Results vary. Guinness zero is actually pretty good IMO

 

[Larryfales]

Fenderbird build

 

[JJR58]

Fenderbird build

Can you tell us a bit about the mounting of the HipShot D style bridge.
And is the body an aftermarket one?

 

[Larryfales]

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Can you tell us a bit about the mounting of the HipShot D style bridge.
And is the bod

Can you tell us a bit about the mounting of the HipShot D style bridge.
And is the body an aftermarket one?

I just picked this up a couple weeks ago, don't know a lot about it. The seller did not give much information on it . I'm pretty sure it's an aftermarket body. The neck is Warmoth, it came completely wired minus the pickups. I dropped a set of Performance Music pups in it and I am completely thrilled with it.

 

[JIO]

Can you tell us a bit about the mounting of the HipShot D style bridge.
And is the body an aftermarket one?

It's a well designed/well made bridge. Can incorporate string-thru or like on that bass - using a tail-piece/string-stop. It has two posts similar to the 3-point and is fine-tuning adjustable.

 

[Stealth57]

This is being brewed at least in some cases by top notch German breweries. The Germans wouldn't be consuming swill. They leave that to the USA.

No one said I have taste. I liked that Rainier Ale tallboy you bought me!

 

[Stealth57]

I recall a brand in the '70s called "Near-Beer" ... should have called it "Don't Bother Beer"

We had another name for that beer, but it would get me thrown off TB if I repeated it.

 

[Nocturnal]

This is being brewed at least in some cases by top notch German breweries. The Germans wouldn't be consuming swill. They leave that to the USA.

I actually like the Athletic Brewing NA's I have tried. I don't want to drink it all the time, but it is a nice alternative at times.