Thunderbird Club

[wolfkeller]

I have a tbx never installed in my Kramer, the wiring has me not knowing what to do. Its v/t/t and a 3 way toggle. I gave up on it.

 

[giocalypse]

I have a tbx never installed in my Kramer, the wiring has me not knowing what to do. Its v/t/t and a 3 way toggle. I gave up on it.

I think the Problem you have is V/T/T.. you need V/V/T. the 3 switch toggle would only be used on and a bass with Neck and Bridge pick up. Ether way u only need one Tone Pot.

 

[giocalypse]

I ordered a TBX pot after reading about the uses here. I have a Jazz Special so I am already familiar with it, but never would have thought to try it on the Epi Birds. I'm going to install it in my new-to-me sunburst Epi. I will let you know my thoughts after I do it.

Awesome bro. Let us know how it goes. $12 tone 15 min install.

 

[wolfkeller]

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Awesome bro. Let us know how it goes. $12 tone 15 min install.

Can I get a shot of the front, where the lugs are so I can see better? Also, where are those leads going to. I always rewire my basses but this gets me. I guess I need to rewire the whole thing v/v/t switch

 

[hillerup]

Anyone has a link to soundclips comparing the regular VVT of the T'bird to a T'bird with a TBX tone circuitry?

Maybe you could upload some soundclips of the you modded bird when you've done the mod?

 

[giocalypse]

Can I get a shot of the front, where the lugs are so I can see better? Also, where are those leads going to. I always rewire my basses but this gets me. I guess I need to rewire the whole thing v/v/t switch

Here is a helpful link regarding the TBX Tone pot. http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/the_fender_tbx_tone_control_part_1

 

[giocalypse]

Here is a helpful link regarding the TBX Tone pot. http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/the_fender_tbx_tone_control_part_1
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..and here is part 2 of that link for the TBX.
http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/The_Fender_TBX_Tone_Control_Mod_Part_2

 

[wolfkeller]

Yes much better! Now what and where am I connecting to this?

 

[giocalypse]

Yes much better! Now what and where am I connecting to this?

That depends on how you want this to be wired. Spend some time online and look for wiring diagrams. I copied the Jazz Bass Special (aka Duff Mckagen sig Bass)

 

[wolfkeller]

My bass is a duff clone so I'll prob go that route

 

[Haji]

Picked up this one today. It sounds so radically different from my Formerly a Goth, TBurt. Newbie is much, much brighter. I still don't like the top hats and I don't like the three point bridge (I may have mentioned that once or twice) so those will likely go. You can see in the pic of them both that the nut width is slimmer on the Newbie, even though Epi says it's not supposed to be. interesting.
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[Nocturnal]

That depends on how you want this to be wired. Spend some time online and look for wiring diagrams. I copied the Jazz Bass Special (aka Duff Mckagen sig Bass) View attachment 486676

So did you add the 3 way switch as well on your Epi? I kinda want to avoid adding a switch, but can work with it if I need to.

 

[rickwebb]

Picked up this one today. It sounds so radically different from my Formerly a Goth, TBurt. Newbie is much, much brighter. I still don't like the top hats and I don't like the three point bridge (I may have mentioned that once or twice) so those will likely go. You can see in the pic of them both that the nut width is slimmer on the Newbie, even though Epi says it's not supposed to be. interesting.
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So the thinner bolt-on neck wasn't a figment of my imagination!

 

[Haji]

I can't read a tape measure to save my life, but I can tell when there are more lines to the right of one than of the other!

 

[Justice]

Something else to throw out and I'm betting Haji can confirm. On my Goth Birds, the front strap button is on the upper horn, on my Sunburst bird, the factory location for the strap button is on the neck plate.

 

[Haji]

Same with mine, Justice.

 

[wolfkeller]

Fired this baby up tonight @ rehearsal... Swa+eet!!!

 

[Nocturnal]

My BurstBird has the strap buttons on the upper horn like your Goth. I think the rear/neck plate placement started happening a couple years back??

 

[hillerup]

My BurstBird has the strap buttons on the upper horn like your Goth. I think the rear/neck plate placement started happening a couple years back??

Having quite a few Epi bolt-ons this is my observation:

The older ones have the wider neck, a straight headstock (straight in line with the neck like a Gibson) and quite often the strap button on the upper on (though they moved it to the neck plate in recent years).

The newer ones have the narrow neck with the 1,5" nut, a downwards slanted headstock to keep strings in a straight line (as opposed to the old straight headstock) and the strap button on the neck plate.
The downward slanted headstock was also used on the Pro-V...

I kinda dig the playability of the narrow neck and 1,5" nut on my TV Silver Limited Edition - But I'm not too happy about the downward slanted headstock, which I think breaks the design flow of the bass as a whole.
I would much rather they would have gone with a narrow neck and a straight headstock - just like they did on the Classic Pro-IV and the Gibsons - either that, or the wider neck/straight headstock, which looks much nicer IMHO.

 

[hillerup]

So did you add the 3 way switch as well on your Epi? I kinda want to avoid adding a switch, but can work with it if I need to.

I would think you could leave out the switch just fine - unless you also move the jack to side, then you could always fill the old input hole on the front with a toggle/kill switch...