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Healthcare is an industry, like hospitality or entertainment.
And "industry" has entitlement to make as much money as they like regardless of collateral damage?

Also, healthcare and psychopharmacology should not be treated as one and the same. One may profit from treatment, but the Hippocratic oath of "do no harm" went right out the window when the shrinks started to take over and big pharma started pushing psych meds via family doctors in the early 90s.

Since then, they have successfully fooled the general public into thinking they are as legit and scientific as other forms of internal medicine. That is anything but the truth.

A little history lesson here. All of the modern psych drugs are built off of experiments the Nazis did on Jews and other "undesirables" in the WWII concentration camps. Their goals were not to cure but to control. As part of project paperclip, these Nazi experiments were continued as various black ops, such as MKultra, which also added street drugs into the equation for mind control experiments.

Over the decades, lobbyists and pharma owned groups like NAMI have worked on the FDA (via lobbyists) to change its role from protector to pusher, and the public (via NAMI and media protrayal/drug commercials) into accepting it as just the same as regular doctors who have medical tests rather than opinions based 5minute interviews with criteria set by the constantly changing DSM (version 5 now), to diagnose and offer harmful drugs with side effects, neurological damage, in a game of whack a mole.

That is not how diabetes and cancer and other illnesses are treated, there are tests, not questions.

But diabetes is one of the side effects of all atypical antipsychotic drugs, and some of the "mood stabilizers" such as depakote.

NAMI, the national alliance for the mentally ill, is fighting to reduce the "stigma" of mental illness, to make it OK for everyone to be mentally Ill. In reality, they are 100% funded by the pharmaceutical industry, and they prefer to use the term "consumers" rather than "patients". To me that makes it even more obvious, but maybe I have a rare gift of BS detection instinct.

They think they are helping treat people, but those at the top, and some like me who have witnessed stuff first hand, know the truth. And I can't go much deeper into that here.

But basically, it is one of the many lies that have been successfully perpetrated against the mainstream public over the last century.

Psychiatry is no where near an exact medical science.
 
Well, he, was from Wyoming and did get me to quit smoking. He was trying to get me to see that if I wanted to be serious, I had to give up something that stood in my way of it. Got more out of studying Kenpo than I did out of smoking.

No objections here. Thinking about doing Aikido or something similar for years, but never get to do it. Don't want to hit people, but I love the selfdefense and discipline aspect of such arts.
 
No objections here. Thinking about doing Aikido or something similar for years, but never get to do it. Don't want to hit people, but I love the selfdefense and discipline aspect of such arts.
Wasn't hard shots, and not as bad as the mandatory kick you get when you moved up a belt level. Wasn't hard, but considered more like birth pains. You have been reborn as a higher level artist. It turned into an initiation rite and had a certain amount of dark humor to it.
 
Don't forget:

Suicidal thoughts (and the boost in mood enough to go through with it)

Stopping after using SSRIs can have withdrawal symptoms such as rebound depression, anxiety etc...

Off label uses, welbutrin for smoking cessation, and the sexual side effects are used to treat premature ejaculation....

Selling side effects as benefits...


I think I'll just stick with my good ole hardcore nicotine withdrawal.
 
I think I'll just stick with my good ole hardcore nicotine withdrawal.

Here, here.

Just take it a day at a time, if this is day two you're already close to mastering it. I highly recommend playing the bass as a great diversion.
 
Here, here.

Just take it a day at a time, if this is day two you're already close to mastering it. I highly recommend playing the bass as a great diversion.

Where, where?,
only kidding T, you're a gem!
onto day 3, and yes, that is my ticket, bass in hands after work.
When i was smoking, it wasn't in the apartment, out the bathroom window, or go downstairs.
So keeping the bass close by really works!
 
I've had my thunderbird classic for about a couple weeks now and I gotta say I'm unimpressed with it. Playing it makes me want to play my p bass. There's just no tone to the neck pickup, there's no distinction, there's nothing unique except the sound like someone CRANKED the bass on the preamp.

Shouldn't have any problem selling it. Post it up.
 
What could possibly go wrong?

Side effects of SSRIs may include, among others:
  • Drowsiness.
  • Nausea.
  • Dry mouth.
  • Insomnia.
  • Diarrhea.
  • Nervousness, agitation or restlessness.
  • Dizziness.
  • Sexual problems, such as reduced sexual desire or difficulty reaching orgasm or inability to maintain an erection (erectile dysfunction)
Dang, those side effects are enough to make you START smoking!
 
I've already replaced the nut from that plastic one to a bone nut, but seeing as it's not original you still think it'll sell easy?
If done professionally this is not considered a takeaway, many would consider it an improvement or at the very least a non issue. If done incorrectly or as a hack job it could easily impact the playability of the bass and be a real detractor driving the sale price way down.

Before you abandon the bird, have you shared your amp settings and tone goals with the club here? If not you should. Speaking from experience, I have a Spector Euro bass that I loved the feel and look of but just couldn't bond with the tone. I tried every reasonable setting on the bass and on my SVT-VR but it just wasn't even close to the sound I wanted. Just as I was ready to flip it I by chance plugged it into my smaller club rig (Musicman HD150/Berg HT322) and the bass came alive! It's now one of my favorite basses and a keeper for sure.

The TBird sound isn't for everybody and that may be your case, that's ok. At least you were open minded enough to give it a try, that's more than a lot of players would do.
 
If done professionally this is not considered a takeaway, many would consider it an improvement or at the very least a non issue. If done incorrectly or as a hack job it could easily impact the playability of the bass and be a real detractor driving the sale price way down.

Before you abandon the bird, have you shared your amp settings and tone goals with the club here? If not you should. Speaking from experience, I have a Spector Euro bass that I loved the feel and look of but just couldn't bond with the tone. I tried every reasonable setting on the bass and on my SVT-VR but it just wasn't even close to the sound I wanted. Just as I was ready to flip it I by chance plugged it into my smaller club rig (Musicman HD150/Berg HT322) and the bass came alive! It's now one of my favorite basses and a keeper for sure.

The TBird sound isn't for everybody and that may be your case, that's ok. At least you were open minded enough to give it a try, that's more than a lot of players would do.


Agreed, don't give up just yet, please let us know what you're after, what type of rig you've got.
Have you adjusted the bridge pick up height, maybe to close to the strings as is right now?
A couple of factors could get it to your liking, maybe not, as @GBassNorth has said, A Thunderbird is not for everyone, no need for the spanish inquisition if you don't like it.
 
I've had my thunderbird classic for about a couple weeks now and I gotta say I'm unimpressed with it. Playing it makes me want to play my p bass. There's just no tone to the neck pickup, there's no distinction, there's nothing unique except the sound like someone CRANKED the bass on the preamp.
Maybe you just aren't a 'Bird person. Not everyone is. It's a big world and there's plenty of room. The good thing is that the person in the audience who has you distracted probably doesn't know the difference between a Thunderbird and a Precision. That person is happily dancing away, unaware (or perhaps aware) of being an enormous distraction to the bass player. But, that person is highly unlikely to even know that you are playing a bass guitar. It's just another guitar to most of the audience. So, play what works for you and makes your hands and ears happy. If it's a Precision, then that's it! And, never mind our happy 7ender bashing. I have parts to build a Fenderbird that's a Precision in all but shape because I want to be able to make a Precision sound but prefer Thunderbird shaped bass guitars. The distracting dancer will never know.
 
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