Thunderbird Club

[dagrev]

That depends on how you’ve known her.

Now that you mention it, "know" does have shades of meaning.

 

[TBird1958]

Thought I’d post a live clip of my Lull Tbird 5, had a band reunion gig last Thursday, haven’t played together since 2019 with these folks. It’s my lull Tbird 5 going thru my pedalboard to Foh straight to board. Had my gk700rbii thru my lowend 2/12 cab as my monitor. I’m really digging the tone of the Lull! ! It really has a distinct presence in the mix, nice bottom end, and I can hear myself very well onstage with it, and a great overall sound! (Not to mention a very cool looking bass!)

It sounds great, and nice playing by you and your mates! Hang on to that Lull, it's a rare Bird, with only about 100 total of all variations made, it's worth more than most folks realize. Let me know if you would like a club number, happy to add you

 

[Afc70]

It sounds great, and nice playing by you and your mates! Hang on to that Lull, it's a rare Bird, with only about 100 total of all variations made, it's worth more than most folks realize. Let me know if you would like a club number, happy to add you

Thanks so much for the kind words! Sure , I’ll take a number.. honestly I’d never even considered a Tbird until around Sept of 2024. I saw a great band from Missouri named Tempest Alley (formerly Hickory Smoke) playing 80’s rock, & their bassist was using an old Epiphone Tbird, straight to Di to the house (no amp onstage) & it sounded amazing (old strings & super high action I may add lol) ! I couldn’t get that tone of out my head. It cut so well & just sounded amazing!

(I’m a longtime active electronics guy, have generally played Modulus EBMM , Ken smiths, Roscoe, etc & still love those basses) but there was something about that epiphones Tbird tone that stuck with me. I’ve always been a fan of Tesla, and Brian wheat, their bassist has played Gibson Tbirds pretty much his whole career, and I love his tone.Anyways- Thanks for the info about the Lull TBird, I didn’t know that they were kinda rare.. Spencer had told me that they couldn’t make the classic looking Lull Tbirds shaped like mine anymore, but didn’t go into details on why. I had assumed maybe they had gotten a cease & desist letter at some point tho lol.
Thanks again!

 

[dagrev]

Nice to see some vintage Thunderbird action on the big stage. At ~5:15 the second song has '64 II and it gets some camera time through out. The next song it's used as well, but barely seen. The first song in the set (White Horse) would have been the Thunderbird as well but wasn't captured.

 

[Chucky Stiletti]

Thanks. Or just a small note indicating that. I don't think I pulled them out enough to notice.

or prematurely cutting them....

 

[GBassNorth]

Thought I’d post a live clip of my Lull Tbird 5, had a band reunion gig last Thursday, haven’t played together since 2019 with these folks. It’s my lull Tbird 5 going thru my pedalboard to Foh straight to board. Had my gk700rbii thru my lowend 2/12 cab as my monitor. I’m really digging the tone of the Lull! ! It really has a distinct presence in the mix, nice bottom end, and I can hear myself very well onstage with it, and a great overall sound! (Not to mention a very cool looking bass!)

Great sound and great Tbird! I’m lovin my Lulls as well…



The club leader in this thread also has a beautiful Burnt Orange Lull Tbird II which sounds fantastic. I’ve only had my Lull 5 for a few weeks, so I’m still going thru the learning curve on it. Bought some TI Jazz Flats for it but when putting them on I realized it was a 34” scale set. They sound wonderful but were a bit short (silks on the nut) so I bought a 36” set that should be here next week. Can’t wait to get it all strung up and set up to my specs and completely dialed in.
Welcome to the club!

 

[Gaolee]

The Magic year (2012) CP is just such a perfectly built inexpensive bass. Its purpose in the Eppi/Gibby line up was to offer a less expensive option than a full spec Gibby Tbird but with the same sound, look and feel of the Gibby. Epiphone succeeded with the CP. However, in true Eppi fashion, they took the extra step of bumping the neck pickup nearly a full pickup width towards the bridge. This gave it a tighter punchier low end. For some reason they only did that for one or two years then moved the neck pickup back to standard Gibby spec location closer to the neck. Love my modern Gibson Reverse (gold anniversary edition) and my 2015 Tbird with the DeCola pickups but the magic year CP is the one of the three I reach for more the most. To my ears it’s very much a Gibson Tbird in sound only better.

As for Goths - don’t get me started. My absolute hands down favorite mod platform in the Eppi/Gibby line up. I gravitate towards deep and dark in a lot of my playing and the Goths come voiced that way stock. Tou can pick them up for as little as $250 on the used market (although that’s getting much harder to do lately, the word is getting out I guess). But you’ll also see many in the $600 and up category. Which means if you pick one up for cheap you can still dump some serious mods in it and not be completely underwater on resale value.

I’ve had four of them, still have three left (the original FrankenGoth had an unfortunate accident, so I parted some of it out and built a new one). I have a lot of different and top end birds, but from a sound and player standpoint my number two bass is my Capped Goth (Lull TP Tbird is #1). Simple $5 mod on a $200 bass and it hangs with my birds that cost 10 to 20 times more money. I dont gig anymore but this is the perfect gig bass - cheap, indestructible, ballz galore and easily replaced if lost or stolen. I did add a Hipshot bridge because the stock bridge inserts were toast when I bought it (that’s why it was $200). Also has Cobalt Flats - the perfect string for this bass.
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Then there’s my FrankenGoth. Bartolini pickups, Aguilar OBP-2 two band preamp (Vol, Vol, treb boost/cut, bass boost/cut) and a coil tap switch that takes both humbuckers to single coil (outside coil of each pup) when needed. Equipped with LaBella Black Tapes this thing goes from hard rock monster to baritone guitar at the flip of a switch. Paid $300 for the bass and sunk about $300 in upgrades in it. Very unique sounding with the Bart pickups, my go to bass for noodeling out bass lines or doing guitarish riffs due to it’s crystal clear output.
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Finally, there’s the SilverGoth. Just finished it up a few weeks ago. Loved the Aggie preamp in the FrankenGoth so I did another one of those except I configured it with a push/pull active passive volume pot and a blend knob (instead of two volume knobs like the FrankenGoth). Then I added a third pickup, a DiMarzo one right up at the neck and a Dingwall 4way selector switch connected to the blend pot. Now I can pan and blend anything from full mudbucker to whatever setting the pup selector is on (mid pup, mid and bridge in series, mid and bridge in parallel or bridge pup). Sounds great and very gig friendly with the fast pan and pickup selector. IIRC I paid under $300 for the bass and sunk about $250 in it. Still trying to figure out just where it sits in my bass line up, the pickup in the Mudbucker position is much clearer and more articulate than I was expecting (I may change it out for a 1960’s EBO pickup if I can find a nice one at a good price).
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Mudbucker solo with some treb boost…
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As a person with an EB-2 with a Dimarzio Model One in exactly that position, I vote against swapping it for a mudbucker. Your white Thunderbird with that pickup has me convinced that my fretless 'Bird needs a Dimarzio Model One in mudbucker position. I love the sound you get from those pickups in that location. It's got all the boom and thump of a mudbucker, but without the smeary quality.

 

[Gaolee]

The offshore T Birds are actually fine. When the request for a better than factory T Bird came in i asked for the pickup to be sent in so i could examine. After opening up the pickup i was surprised. Good cover , Alnico magnets , coils looked good. No problem , good price. This is why i don't bother offering a standard T Bird. Just buy the offshore pickup. They are nice quality and priced fairly. What was noticed was the short magnets. The coils and pickup package do not leave much room for modifications. Over winding is a option but to keep the original sound but fuller and fatter the neo boosters were added to beef up those short A5 mags on the Alneo T Birds

If you can find a 2001 Thunderbird pickup to dissect, I would be very interested in finding out what makes the magic in those. I have a set (in the pixie dust 2001 Thunderbird), but I'm reluctant to take those out of the bass, lest the magic and magic smoke escape. Ken has a set in one of his Thunderbirds as well. They are a little noisier than some other TB+ pickups, which makes me think there's a fortunate flaw or some other anomaly to them.

 

[Gaolee]

That depends on how you’ve known her.

 

[Gaolee]

Thanks so much for the kind words! Sure , I’ll take a number.. honestly I’d never even considered a Tbird until around Sept of 2024. I saw a great band from Missouri named Tempest Alley (formerly Hickory Smoke) playing 80’s rock, & their bassist was using an old Epiphone Tbird, straight to Di to the house (no amp onstage) & it sounded amazing (old strings & super high action I may add lol) ! I couldn’t get that tone of out my head. It cut so well & just sounded amazing!

(I’m a longtime active electronics guy, have generally played Modulus EBMM , Ken smiths, Roscoe, etc & still love those basses) but there was something about that epiphones Tbird tone that stuck with me. I’ve always been a fan of Tesla, and Brian wheat, their bassist has played Gibson Tbirds pretty much his whole career, and I love his tone.Anyways- Thanks for the info about the Lull TBird, I didn’t know that they were kinda rare.. Spencer had told me that they couldn’t make the classic looking Lull Tbirds shaped like mine anymore, but didn’t go into details on why. I had assumed maybe they had gotten a cease & desist letter at some point tho lol.
Thanks again!

I lust after a Lull Thunderbird. Eventually, one will come along when I have enough to actually buy it. I would rather have a Lull than a first generation Gibson, which is borderline heresy around here.

 

[BklynKen]

If you can find a 2001 Thunderbird pickup to dissect, I would be very interested in finding out what makes the magic in those. I have a set (in the pixie dust 2001 Thunderbird), but I'm reluctant to take those out of the bass, lest the magic and magic smoke escape. Ken has a set in one of his Thunderbirds as well. They are a little noisier than some other TB+ pickups, which makes me think there's a fortunate flaw or some other anomaly to them.

I have another set from the same era sitting around, but they're embedded in epoxy. Not much dissecting you could do without the good possibility of ruining them.

 

[BklynKen]

I guess all shipping companies suck in one way or another.

 

[Afc70]

Great sound and great Tbird! I’m lovin my Lulls as well…
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The club leader in this thread also has a beautiful Burnt Orange Lull Tbird II which sounds fantastic. I’ve only had my Lull 5 for a few weeks, so I’m still going thru the learning curve on it. Bought some TI Jazz Flats for it but when putting them on I realized it was a 34” scale set. They sound wonderful but were a bit short (silks on the nut) so I bought a 36” set that should be here next week. Can’t wait to get it all strung up and set up to my specs and completely dialed in.
Welcome to the club!

Appreciate it ! & love the color of those white Thunderbirds, They look amazing & I bet they sound spectacular! Edit: I received my Lull T-bird 5 back in November 2024, & have used it on a few hard rock & country gigs, & it’s very versatile!

 

[TBird1958]

Thought I’d post a live clip of my Lull Tbird 5, had a band reunion gig last Thursday, haven’t played together since 2019 with these folks. It’s my lull Tbird 5 going thru my pedalboard to Foh straight to board. Had my gk700rbii thru my lowend 2/12 cab as my monitor. I’m really digging the tone of the Lull! ! It really has a distinct presence in the mix, nice bottom end, and I can hear myself very well onstage with it, and a great overall sound! (Not to mention a very cool looking bass!)

Please be welcome here with us Afc70,
As always please feel free to post videos, pics etc., and questions are welcome, we don't like the "search" function here! Your Lull is both, rare and beautiful,
and was made by the man himself. You are #954, welcome!




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[Matt Kustom]

If you can find a 2001 Thunderbird pickup to dissect, I would be very interested in finding out what makes the magic in those. I have a set (in the pixie dust 2001 Thunderbird), but I'm reluctant to take those out of the bass, lest the magic and magic smoke escape. Ken has a set in one of his Thunderbirds as well. They are a little noisier than some other TB+ pickups, which makes me think there's a fortunate flaw or some other anomaly to them.

Is that the T bird pickup that looks like a P Bass powered by a single ceramic magnet?

Thunderbird pickups i can see in pics after the originals are sometimes just blade Humbucker with larger ceramic , and the P bass looking ones with standard ceramic. All are epoxied. If ones not taken apart alot of the build would be a guess. Coil reads would help as the coils are small and a reading would tell what wire was used.

If there is one for sale let me know. If someone wants to send in and have it taken apart it can always be put back together. I have to take apart broken Peavey Super Ferrite all the time due to being wired poorly and they die

 

[MCF]

I guess all shipping companies suck in one way or another.

Funny, I watched a different vid on that last night. There was no mention that the Bako GC was involved. Doesn’t surprise me. Just sayin’. And I have shipped things via UPS that disappeared.

 

[BklynKen]

Is that the T bird pickup that looks like a P Bass powered by a single ceramic magnet?

Thunderbird pickups i can see in pics after the originals are sometimes just blade Humbucker with larger ceramic , and the P bass looking ones with standard ceramic. All are epoxied. If ones not taken apart alot of the build would be a guess. Coil reads would help as the coils are small and a reading would tell what wire was used.

If there is one for sale let me know. If someone wants to send in and have it taken apart it can always be put back together. I have to take apart broken Peavey Super Ferrite all the time due to being wired poorly and they die

No, they look more the more recent TB+, but no plastic outlines around the screw holes; just holes drilled into the epoxy. I can take a photo of them when I get home.

 

[BklynKen]

Is that the T bird pickup that looks like a P Bass powered by a single ceramic magnet?

Thunderbird pickups i can see in pics after the originals are sometimes just blade Humbucker with larger ceramic , and the P bass looking ones with standard ceramic. All are epoxied. If ones not taken apart alot of the build would be a guess. Coil reads would help as the coils are small and a reading would tell what wire was used.

If there is one for sale let me know. If someone wants to send in and have it taken apart it can always be put back together. I have to take apart broken Peavey Super Ferrite all the time due to being wired poorly and they die

Another thought here is considering your description of your Thunderbird pickups, they may already be in the same ballpark, tone-wise, as the 2001 era TB+. I'm sure we could figure something out if you want to check out my spare set of them. Not exactly sure what year they're from, but they should be about the same.

 

[Matt Kustom]

These state to be 2018 TB+

Looking at these they are blade Humbucker with 3 ceramic magnets. One middle and two flanker magnets , both state to be 9.7k

What i cant see is there may be a bent metal plate inside the plastic cover you can see in the picture with the grounding tape

 

[AllieCat]

Got my 2014 Cherry:

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Beautiful as it is, it needs some changes:

Notice the 2021 NR set notes Rhy vs Lead for the neck/bridge pickup. When you buy the Vintage Re-issue pickups directly from the Gibson website, you only get “Lead”. Or at least the first two I bought were both “Lead”:

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Replacing the big, thick TB+ pickups with the much thinner 2021 NR/Reissue set takes some “material” to keep them up and from being too loose:

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Gotta make sure the spring doesn’t sit on the pickup lead:

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So it’s almost there:

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All that’s left is the chrome mini-clover Hipshots and extender.

Goodness, that is one beautiful bass.