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Thunderbird Club

@Engle

Hey, Irv (and anyone else who knows)
Any idea what the normal radius should be on the wing & body edges of yer typical Gibson 'bird?

I spent yesterday re-profiling the rear faces of the wings on my kit build to a 1.25-degree angle. Took a little head-scratching, a little trig, and a bunch of benchmarking to work out where the new outside edge should be compared to where it was... then careful application of a powered hand planer and a whole bunch of hand sanding to connect that new edge to the current 'root' flat and level.

Worked pretty well, but once the front is done and I get the sides sanded, I'll need to re-radius all the edges.

I'd like to be authentic where I can.

Next big decision; to belly-carve or not to belly carve.

Pics of the prep and sweaty progress. I should get a belt sander, as this was a few hours of upper-body work. Mahogany is for sure slower to cut than basswood or alder.

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The off-center position of the jack hole is problematic; not a lot of wood there and will be less once radiused and the cover route is done. 99% sure Im going to fill it and go with a front jack. Which I kind of prefer anyway.
Wow Glen, it looks great! You are much more scientific about shaping bass bodies than I am:)
My process is to look at another instrument and then remove wood until it seems right... taking a few measurements as I go.
I'll be thinning the wings and doing a belly cut on my Epi base Tbird soon.

I find mahogany really easy to work vs maple or ash. But I've never shaped a basswood or alder instrument.
 
Trust me, a tummy cut is a nice thing - just do it

A little backside love!

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Love that bass!
 
not to bog down with live clips but since it is a TBird club, thought it may be helpful for some listening to different Birds setup differently in live scenarios with different amps and genres...
had a great tone night on Fri......cherry red (thin body) BaCH with TBuckers and broken in RS66, both pups dimed (love IVs) and tone at 7 (cap replaced with Cornell Dubilier of same original value which I can't recall), Dunlop nylon .72 and ABM EVO 500 set like:
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into a ABM 4x8" and a ABM 1x15" with a 700W Celestion......


all this said, I can't say enough how badazz this BaCH is, the neck is superior to many of my (way pricier) basses.....literally not a single dead spot anywhere.....
 
not to bog down with live clips but since it is a TBird club, thought it may be helpful for some listening to different Birds setup differently in live scenarios with different amps and genres...
had a great tone night on Fri......cherry red (thin body) BaCH with TBuckers and broken in RS66, both pups dimed (love IVs) and tone at 7 (cap replaced with Cornell Dubilier of same original value which I can't recall), Dunlop nylon .72 and ABM EVO 500 set like:
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into a ABM 4x8" and a ABM 1x15" with a 700W Celestion......


all this said, I can't say enough how badazz this BaCH is, the neck is superior to many of my (way pricier) basses.....literally not a single dead spot anywhere.....



I'm digging mine so much! Used it last night at rehearsal and it was pure joy, my settings are similar, I have the Valve Drive at 9, bass knob up at 10:30 with the lowest slider down quite a bit, just a little less compression - It sounds so much like my Trace, love it!
 
Nice! Is that new?

Thanks! No, I've had it since 2021 or so. It and my SWR Goliath 410 were coming with me on the tour I was gonna go on, but the pandemic killed that. It's since been living at my friend's house, since I had no space for it. NYC apartment living. Since we rarely need our own backline for NYC shows, and are often discouraged to bring one, I haven't needed it. But since I disliked that Fender amp so much, my friend in another band who played with us last time gave me the idea. He said the big cab and ran right home to grab is Darkglass head.

Practically, I would've been better off with the L500, but I got so wooed by the Legacy amps looking like mini 800RBs that I went with the 800. I do know that the 800RB was only 300 watts.
 
My process is to look at another instrument and then remove wood until it seems right... taking a few measurements as I go.
That'd be my preference too.

But I ain't got none. ;)

Only Gibson bass I have access to is my DC Tribute, which is a pretty different beast design wise even if it has a T-bird pickup and a 3-point.

It's body-edge radius isnt a symmetrical 90-degree fillet like on a 7ender; its more of a blend from the face to the edge, and a lot smaller/sharper than an FSO.

Pix I see of 'birds look different, smallish radius like the DC but more symmetrical, like a quarter-round fillet. Not quite Telecaster-sharp but close.
 
Thanks! No, I've had it since 2021 or so. It and my SWR Goliath 410 were coming with me on the tour I was gonna go on, but the pandemic killed that. It's since been living at my friend's house, since I had no space for it. NYC apartment living. Since we rarely need our own backline for NYC shows, and are often discouraged to bring one, I haven't needed it. But since I disliked that Fender amp so much, my friend in another band who played with us last time gave me the idea. He said the big cab and ran right home to grab is Darkglass head.

Practically, I would've been better off with the L500, but I got so wooed by the Legacy amps looking like mini 800RBs that I went with the 800. I do know that the 800RB was only 300 watts.
What big cab is at the venue?
 
not to bog down with live clips but since it is a TBird club, thought it may be helpful for some listening to different Birds setup differently in live scenarios with different amps and genres...
had a great tone night on Fri......cherry red (thin body) BaCH with TBuckers and broken in RS66, both pups dimed (love IVs) and tone at 7 (cap replaced with Cornell Dubilier of same original value which I can't recall), Dunlop nylon .72 and ABM EVO 500 set like:
View attachment 7280310
into a ABM 4x8" and a ABM 1x15" with a 700W Celestion......


all this said, I can't say enough how badazz this BaCH is, the neck is superior to many of my (way pricier) basses.....literally not a single dead spot anywhere.....

:cool::thumbsup:
 
Wow Glen, it looks great! You are much more scientific about shaping bass bodies than I am:)
My process is to look at another instrument and then remove wood until it seems right... taking a few measurements as I go.
I'll be thinning the wings and doing a belly cut on my Epi base Tbird soon.

I find mahogany really easy to work vs maple or ash. But I've never shaped a basswood or alder instrument.
Mahogany is the wood that was made to be worked. Given a choice, that's all I would ever deal with. It turns my hands orange, but that's a small price to pay.
 
Mahogany is the wood that was made to be worked. Given a choice, that's all I would ever deal with. It turns my hands orange, but that's a small price to pay.
You don't believe in gloves? Gloves don't believe in you? Mahogany juices goes right through gloves?
Is this a case of you having alien sweat like certain other members? Or does the mahogany have alien sweat?
Enquirer minds want to know!
 
That'd be my preference too.

But I ain't got none. ;)

Only Gibson bass I have access to is my DC Tribute, which is a pretty different beast design wise even if it has a T-bird pickup and a 3-point.

It's body-edge radius isnt a symmetrical 90-degree fillet like on a 7ender; its more of a blend from the face to the edge, and a lot smaller/sharper than an FSO.

Pix I see of 'birds look different, smallish radius like the DC but more symmetrical, like a quarter-round fillet. Not quite Telecaster-sharp but close.
Yeah the my modern Gibson is a DC Tribute - quite a bit different than my 68 EBO.