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definitely not Hollister.....
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BuddhaFingas said:
Almost... strongly nudged.
My issue is, I'm not very competitive by character, but when I do compete, I COMPETE.
All in, no quarter asked or given.
Leads me to excess.
Rawr.
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I will keep my hands and feet away from your mouth. And I suggest that the same with me is also good when there's good chili around.
 
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JIO said:
The Baltic Kiss in Richmond (East Bay) used to entertain that option. It closed but someone is considering opening it again. Good venue, quality FOH/stage-lighting, ex-pro sound-man and a free dinner for a 3 set night. Both TSC & BG played that venue a few times each.

Bond Girl
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The lighting guy got fired after that photo was taken.
 
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BuddhaFingas said:
OK, so I said I'd share "The bad" 2%... Truth is I feel bad noting the negatives because the bass and case overall are in such awesome condition for almost 8 years old I'd be tempted to call it "NOS."

But you can't spell "Analyst" without... yeah. So I'm going to find everything, and fix everything I can. It's in my nature.

1) First noted when unpacking: The seller did an above-average job packing (almost an entire roll of bubble wrap came out of the box) but UPS will be UPS.
Spotted even before openeing, the exterior screws holding the divider inside the case were loose and crooked. Uh. oh.
Investigation showed the MDF had split from some impact.
I have already fixed this - pulled the divider, glued and clamped the split, drilled and doweled the screw holes, re-glued the fabric, and all back together overnight. No huhu. Not really worth even a picture.
But when I opened the case for the first time, I saw this: The bass had shifted out of the recessed pocket and crushed the foam under the cloth, and was able to hit the (fur-covered) hinge on the lower right:
View attachment 7353386

This left a tiny set of scratches in the finish on the lower bout. They 90% rubbed out on first cleaning.
View attachment 7353388
I feared the worst, but everything else about the bass checks out, so the case gave it's life to the noble cause of protecting the instrument.
I will in future replace the damaged foam; "ablative armor." Upholstery and I are old friends, so NBD to repair.

2) The pickguard is in awesome shape, even still bits of the protective film caught under some screws, zero scratches, logo absolutely unmarked...
But the lower corner is cracked, looks like from overtightening at the factory as I doubt it's ever been removed.
View attachment 7353392
This looks very gluable to me - preferably by solvent repair from the rear before it cracks the rest of the way.
Does anyone know for certain what type of plastic it is, so I can select the right glue/cement/solvent? It's clearly not celluloid, feels like styrene or PVC something softish like that. I'll do CA if I have to, but would prefer a solvent repair for longer-term strength.
Haven't removed it yet, but I did slack all the screws slightly. It closed up almost invisibly, so definitely fixable..

3) One tuner has a scratch on it, not real obvious, and it looks like the nitro finish under it may have crazed slightly from an impact (or maybe at assembly - nitro is like that). Not really too concerned about fixing that unless it's likely to cause premature checking, in which case I should probably drop-fill and repolish. Opinions?
View attachment 7353393

4) The upper horn has a TINY dig in it, just enough that it's not going to buff out. Probably not worth worrying about, or a tiny bit of solvent and then polish would fix it.
View attachment 7353395

5) The nut has a crosswise scratch on it (hard to photograph) between D and G, probably from the strings having dragged sidewise, which has nut lube graphite in it. If it bothers me enough I'll polish it out.
The nut slots have taken impression from the string windings (obviously they sat without moving for a long time), so there's pinging when tuning. They need a polish. As I'm 90% sure I'm going to restring with EBCFs, probably today, I'll do it then.
View attachment 7353398

I realized that as the existing strings have no silks, and are unworn, I can remove them and keep them if I ever want to go back to "as original" because you can't spell 'analyst' without... yeah. In another life I probably would have been an archeologist. Or a librarian.

6) (doesn't really count) The soldering is clearly original and to my (NASA certified, multi-layer PCB repair trained) eye, OMG horrible. Cold joints, melted insulation, "rat hair" from shields untrimmed, tag ends untrimmed.
But it works, and it's original, so it stays. I did trim the rat hair though, as me no likey shorts in me wiring.
View attachment 7353400
They set me a real easy bar to clear in my own build there.
But TBCH my LPDC Tribute was about the same - I had to resolder the pickup leads as they were stripped back so long they were shorting.

And that friends & neighbors is absolutely EVERYthing I found I could possibly criticize; This bass is so near to perfect and no sunlight shines between.

I have instruments I bought new-out-the-box that had more and larger issues, truly.

I am gloriously happeh with it, and look forward to obsessing over it for probably the rest of my life.

Overall feelings:
I have a Thunderbird at last.
Regrets over selling the original RH Epi that had me joining this club, all gone.
It's way above my level of play, which will inspire me to try to level up.
I'm happy the previous one "got away" as clearly it was in rougher shape, and more money.
Feeling as lucky as my club number of "777"would imply.

Later, will post the outside sunshine beauty shots I finally got to take today. They be glorious.

And now... I have to try to make my fretless build "worthy" of the heritage.
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I would just play it as it is. It will get its own bumps and bruises over time from being played. I don't deliberately harm anything and I certainly don't "relic" anything on purpose. No issues with people who do, mind you, but it's just not what I do. But I also don't baby anything and if it gets a scratch or wear spot here or there, it doesn't bother me. If a bass comes with little issues like those, it doesn't bother me either. But then I'm not an analyst.
 
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BuddhaFingas said:
OK, so I said I'd share "The bad" 2%... Truth is I feel bad noting the negatives because the bass and case overall are in such awesome condition for almost 8 years old I'd be tempted to call it "NOS."

But you can't spell "Analyst" without... yeah. So I'm going to find everything, and fix everything I can. It's in my nature.

1) First noted when unpacking: The seller did an above-average job packing (almost an entire roll of bubble wrap came out of the box) but UPS will be UPS.
Spotted even before openeing, the exterior screws holding the divider inside the case were loose and crooked. Uh. oh.
Investigation showed the MDF had split from some impact.
I have already fixed this - pulled the divider, glued and clamped the split, drilled and doweled the screw holes, re-glued the fabric, and all back together overnight. No huhu. Not really worth even a picture.
But when I opened the case for the first time, I saw this: The bass had shifted out of the recessed pocket and crushed the foam under the cloth, and was able to hit the (fur-covered) hinge on the lower right:
View attachment 7353386

This left a tiny set of scratches in the finish on the lower bout. They 90% rubbed out on first cleaning.
View attachment 7353388
I feared the worst, but everything else about the bass checks out, so the case gave it's life to the noble cause of protecting the instrument.
I will in future replace the damaged foam; "ablative armor." Upholstery and I are old friends, so NBD to repair.

2) The pickguard is in awesome shape, even still bits of the protective film caught under some screws, zero scratches, logo absolutely unmarked...
But the lower corner is cracked, looks like from overtightening at the factory as I doubt it's ever been removed.
View attachment 7353392
This looks very gluable to me - preferably by solvent repair from the rear before it cracks the rest of the way.
Does anyone know for certain what type of plastic it is, so I can select the right glue/cement/solvent? It's clearly not celluloid, feels like styrene or PVC something softish like that. I'll do CA if I have to, but would prefer a solvent repair for longer-term strength.
Haven't removed it yet, but I did slack all the screws slightly. It closed up almost invisibly, so definitely fixable..

3) One tuner has a scratch on it, not real obvious, and it looks like the nitro finish under it may have crazed slightly from an impact (or maybe at assembly - nitro is like that). Not really too concerned about fixing that unless it's likely to cause premature checking, in which case I should probably drop-fill and repolish. Opinions?
View attachment 7353393

4) The upper horn has a TINY dig in it, just enough that it's not going to buff out. Probably not worth worrying about, or a tiny bit of solvent and then polish would fix it.
View attachment 7353395

5) The nut has a crosswise scratch on it (hard to photograph) between D and G, probably from the strings having dragged sidewise, which has nut lube graphite in it. If it bothers me enough I'll polish it out.
The nut slots have taken impression from the string windings (obviously they sat without moving for a long time), so there's pinging when tuning. They need a polish. As I'm 90% sure I'm going to restring with EBCFs, probably today, I'll do it then.
View attachment 7353398

I realized that as the existing strings have no silks, and are unworn, I can remove them and keep them if I ever want to go back to "as original" because you can't spell 'analyst' without... yeah. In another life I probably would have been an archeologist. Or a librarian.

6) (doesn't really count) The soldering is clearly original and to my (NASA certified, multi-layer PCB repair trained) eye, OMG horrible. Cold joints, melted insulation, "rat hair" from shields untrimmed, tag ends untrimmed.
But it works, and it's original, so it stays. I did trim the rat hair though, as me no likey shorts in me wiring.
View attachment 7353400
They set me a real easy bar to clear in my own build there.
But TBCH my LPDC Tribute was about the same - I had to resolder the pickup leads as they were stripped back so long they were shorting.

And that friends & neighbors is absolutely EVERYthing I found I could possibly criticize; This bass is so near to perfect and no sunlight shines between.

I have instruments I bought new-out-the-box that had more and larger issues, truly.

I am gloriously happeh with it, and look forward to obsessing over it for probably the rest of my life.

Overall feelings:
I have a Thunderbird at last.
Regrets over selling the original RH Epi that had me joining this club, all gone.
It's way above my level of play, which will inspire me to try to level up.
I'm happy the previous one "got away" as clearly it was in rougher shape, and more money.
Feeling as lucky as my club number of "777"would imply.

Later, will post the outside sunshine beauty shots I finally got to take today. They be glorious.

And now... I have to try to make my fretless build "worthy" of the heritage.
Click to expand...

Congratulations! I like all my Epis. I love all my Gibsons.

Couple of notes:

1.) About the case: I’ve had to glue many screws on the cases for the ‘15 reverse and ‘21 NR into place. And AFAIK, neither case has taken an impact. Both came with the new basses. The ‘15 has maybe been ot of the house thirty times. The ‘21 maybe ten. All of my earlier Gibson cases are better built.

2.) One of the first things I do when I get a bass, regardless of the brand, is lesson the torque on the pickguard screws.

3.) The scratch on the tuner wouldn’t bug me. The finish issue would.

4.) I would probably leave it.

5.) Whatever works for proper tuning.

6.) looks better than most of my basses.
 
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BuddhaFingas said:
OK, so I said I'd share "The bad" 2%... Truth is I feel bad noting the negatives because the bass and case overall are in such awesome condition for almost 8 years old I'd be tempted to call it "NOS."

But you can't spell "Analyst" without... yeah. So I'm going to find everything, and fix everything I can. It's in my nature.

1) First noted when unpacking: The seller did an above-average job packing (almost an entire roll of bubble wrap came out of the box) but UPS will be UPS.
Spotted even before openeing, the exterior screws holding the divider inside the case were loose and crooked. Uh. oh.
Investigation showed the MDF had split from some impact.
I have already fixed this - pulled the divider, glued and clamped the split, drilled and doweled the screw holes, re-glued the fabric, and all back together overnight. No huhu. Not really worth even a picture.
But when I opened the case for the first time, I saw this: The bass had shifted out of the recessed pocket and crushed the foam under the cloth, and was able to hit the (fur-covered) hinge on the lower right:
View attachment 7353386

This left a tiny set of scratches in the finish on the lower bout. They 90% rubbed out on first cleaning.
View attachment 7353388
I feared the worst, but everything else about the bass checks out, so the case gave it's life to the noble cause of protecting the instrument.
I will in future replace the damaged foam; "ablative armor." Upholstery and I are old friends, so NBD to repair.

2) The pickguard is in awesome shape, even still bits of the protective film caught under some screws, zero scratches, logo absolutely unmarked...
But the lower corner is cracked, looks like from overtightening at the factory as I doubt it's ever been removed.
View attachment 7353392
This looks very gluable to me - preferably by solvent repair from the rear before it cracks the rest of the way.
Does anyone know for certain what type of plastic it is, so I can select the right glue/cement/solvent? It's clearly not celluloid, feels like styrene or PVC something softish like that. I'll do CA if I have to, but would prefer a solvent repair for longer-term strength.
Haven't removed it yet, but I did slack all the screws slightly. It closed up almost invisibly, so definitely fixable..

3) One tuner has a scratch on it, not real obvious, and it looks like the nitro finish under it may have crazed slightly from an impact (or maybe at assembly - nitro is like that). Not really too concerned about fixing that unless it's likely to cause premature checking, in which case I should probably drop-fill and repolish. Opinions?
View attachment 7353393

4) The upper horn has a TINY dig in it, just enough that it's not going to buff out. Probably not worth worrying about, or a tiny bit of solvent and then polish would fix it.
View attachment 7353395

5) The nut has a crosswise scratch on it (hard to photograph) between D and G, probably from the strings having dragged sidewise, which has nut lube graphite in it. If it bothers me enough I'll polish it out.
The nut slots have taken impression from the string windings (obviously they sat without moving for a long time), so there's pinging when tuning. They need a polish. As I'm 90% sure I'm going to restring with EBCFs, probably today, I'll do it then.
View attachment 7353398

I realized that as the existing strings have no silks, and are unworn, I can remove them and keep them if I ever want to go back to "as original" because you can't spell 'analyst' without... yeah. In another life I probably would have been an archeologist. Or a librarian.

6) (doesn't really count) The soldering is clearly original and to my (NASA certified, multi-layer PCB repair trained) eye, OMG horrible. Cold joints, melted insulation, "rat hair" from shields untrimmed, tag ends untrimmed.
But it works, and it's original, so it stays. I did trim the rat hair though, as me no likey shorts in me wiring.
View attachment 7353400
They set me a real easy bar to clear in my own build there.
But TBCH my LPDC Tribute was about the same - I had to resolder the pickup leads as they were stripped back so long they were shorting.

And that friends & neighbors is absolutely EVERYthing I found I could possibly criticize; This bass is so near to perfect and no sunlight shines between.

I have instruments I bought new-out-the-box that had more and larger issues, truly.

I am gloriously happeh with it, and look forward to obsessing over it for probably the rest of my life.

Overall feelings:
I have a Thunderbird at last.
Regrets over selling the original RH Epi that had me joining this club, all gone.
It's way above my level of play, which will inspire me to try to level up.
I'm happy the previous one "got away" as clearly it was in rougher shape, and more money.
Feeling as lucky as my club number of "777"would imply.

Later, will post the outside sunshine beauty shots I finally got to take today. They be glorious.

And now... I have to try to make my fretless build "worthy" of the heritage.
Click to expand...
I would just polish the dings and not bother filling anything. When you play the bass it's just going to get more little dings and scratches because it's nitro. Embrace the imperfections!

Yes to gluing the pickguard. I believe pickguard material is pvc. I would do some test gluing on a scrap piece.
That's a pretty rough looking beveled edge to my eye. I know that's how they come from the factory, but I would sand and polish it.
 
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JIO said:
The Baltic Kiss in Richmond (East Bay) used to entertain that option. It closed but someone is considering opening it again. Good venue, quality FOH/stage-lighting, ex-pro sound-man and a free dinner for a 3 set night. Both TSC & BG played that venue a few times each.

Bond Girl
View attachment 7353387
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Baltic kiss, hmmm. I can think someone who would be happy to give a Baltic kiss- the character on the on that beam of the Voodoo Hut-

She’s in a graphic short story set in the 7th in what would be present day Estonia, the northern reaches from which one can see the Aurora Borealis. In the illustration you can see it in the skies above her-



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BuddhaFingas said:
OK, so I said I'd share "The bad" 2%... Truth is I feel bad noting the negatives because the bass and case overall are in such awesome condition for almost 8 years old I'd be tempted to call it "NOS."

But you can't spell "Analyst" without... yeah. So I'm going to find everything, and fix everything I can. It's in my nature.

1) First noted when unpacking: The seller did an above-average job packing (almost an entire roll of bubble wrap came out of the box) but UPS will be UPS.
Spotted even before openeing, the exterior screws holding the divider inside the case were loose and crooked. Uh. oh.
Investigation showed the MDF had split from some impact.
I have already fixed this - pulled the divider, glued and clamped the split, drilled and doweled the screw holes, re-glued the fabric, and all back together overnight. No huhu. Not really worth even a picture.
But when I opened the case for the first time, I saw this: The bass had shifted out of the recessed pocket and crushed the foam under the cloth, and was able to hit the (fur-covered) hinge on the lower right:
View attachment 7353386

This left a tiny set of scratches in the finish on the lower bout. They 90% rubbed out on first cleaning.
View attachment 7353388
I feared the worst, but everything else about the bass checks out, so the case gave it's life to the noble cause of protecting the instrument.
I will in future replace the damaged foam; "ablative armor." Upholstery and I are old friends, so NBD to repair.

2) The pickguard is in awesome shape, even still bits of the protective film caught under some screws, zero scratches, logo absolutely unmarked...
But the lower corner is cracked, looks like from overtightening at the factory as I doubt it's ever been removed.
View attachment 7353392
This looks very gluable to me - preferably by solvent repair from the rear before it cracks the rest of the way.
Does anyone know for certain what type of plastic it is, so I can select the right glue/cement/solvent? It's clearly not celluloid, feels like styrene or PVC something softish like that. I'll do CA if I have to, but would prefer a solvent repair for longer-term strength.
Haven't removed it yet, but I did slack all the screws slightly. It closed up almost invisibly, so definitely fixable..

3) One tuner has a scratch on it, not real obvious, and it looks like the nitro finish under it may have crazed slightly from an impact (or maybe at assembly - nitro is like that). Not really too concerned about fixing that unless it's likely to cause premature checking, in which case I should probably drop-fill and repolish. Opinions?
View attachment 7353393

4) The upper horn has a TINY dig in it, just enough that it's not going to buff out. Probably not worth worrying about, or a tiny bit of solvent and then polish would fix it.
View attachment 7353395

5) The nut has a crosswise scratch on it (hard to photograph) between D and G, probably from the strings having dragged sidewise, which has nut lube graphite in it. If it bothers me enough I'll polish it out.
The nut slots have taken impression from the string windings (obviously they sat without moving for a long time), so there's pinging when tuning. They need a polish. As I'm 90% sure I'm going to restring with EBCFs, probably today, I'll do it then.
View attachment 7353398

I realized that as the existing strings have no silks, and are unworn, I can remove them and keep them if I ever want to go back to "as original" because you can't spell 'analyst' without... yeah. In another life I probably would have been an archeologist. Or a librarian.

6) (doesn't really count) The soldering is clearly original and to my (NASA certified, multi-layer PCB repair trained) eye, OMG horrible. Cold joints, melted insulation, "rat hair" from shields untrimmed, tag ends untrimmed.
But it works, and it's original, so it stays. I did trim the rat hair though, as me no likey shorts in me wiring.
View attachment 7353400
They set me a real easy bar to clear in my own build there.
But TBCH my LPDC Tribute was about the same - I had to resolder the pickup leads as they were stripped back so long they were shorting.

And that friends & neighbors is absolutely EVERYthing I found I could possibly criticize; This bass is so near to perfect and no sunlight shines between.

I have instruments I bought new-out-the-box that had more and larger issues, truly.

I am gloriously happeh with it, and look forward to obsessing over it for probably the rest of my life.

Overall feelings:
I have a Thunderbird at last.
Regrets over selling the original RH Epi that had me joining this club, all gone.
It's way above my level of play, which will inspire me to try to level up.
I'm happy the previous one "got away" as clearly it was in rougher shape, and more money.
Feeling as lucky as my club number of "777"would imply.

Later, will post the outside sunshine beauty shots I finally got to take today. They be glorious.

And now... I have to try to make my fretless build "worthy" of the heritage.
Click to expand...
Awesome, dude!
 
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This morning we ran my bass from my board direct to the mixer. The cranked the bass in the spot monitor[1] I shared with the acoustic guitarist. I could barely hear myself, but this is the plan moving forward. I need to talk to Mallory and find out why. But if we can’t go back, I’m going to ask to either (1) use one amp on a kick back stand as my monitor, (2) start setting up closer to a PA speaker (unlikely), or (3) I’ll get a headphones feed.

1. I’ve never been happy with one.
 
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