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Thunderbird Club

Hi everybody !

I need to buy a "real" amp now that my band is starting to tour. It became quite frustrating for me to borrow venues amplifiers everytime I play. I love Ampeg so I first wanted a SVT 410HLF with a SVT CL. I just saw Aguilar DB 410 with Tone Hammer 500. It costs less money (still expensive though) but I don't know how it sounds with a Tbird.

What amps do you guys use ? Which rig would you recommand ?

(Our drummer is loud and the guitar players plays Vox AC30 and Orange combo.)

Seeing as you mentioned an SVT ... you should consider Traynor. My 200 watt YBA200 is a svelte 19kg and runs 4 x 6550s.

@JJR58 pointed to the (possible) shortcomings of the SVT410HLF -- there are plenty of other 410s, but have you considered something other than a 10" speaker? The SVT212AV is a very nice cabinet and *only* weighs 29kg. According to JimmyM over in Amps and Cabs, they are very fridge like -- and this at a fraction of the size/weight.

 
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Seeing as you mentioned an SVT ... you should consider Traynor. My 200 watt YBA200 is a svelte 19kg and runs 4 x 6550s.

@JJR58 pointed to the (possible) shortcomings of the SVT410HLF -- there are plenty kf other 410s, but have you considered something other than a 10" speaker? The SVT212AV is a very nice cabinet and *only* weighs 29kg. According to JimmyM over in Amps and Cabs, they are very fridge like -- and this at a fraction of the size/weight.


That 212AV is an awesome cab @kat888!
I'd have 2 of them if the GK ran at 2ohms.
It definitely has a fridge type tone to it.
 
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I'm just being a wise guy as usual.
I've only had one bass that i removed the tone knob from.
But, it is useful.

tone knob, schmone knob

[insert obligatory TB maxim about tone being in the fingers]

2 Birds and 0 tone knobs - the Epi Vintage Pro will be having it's trip to the vet for de-knobbing soon after it comes home. Up on the table and out with the soldering iron.
 
The only thing better than that is a vintage or new 360. It's good to know I'm not the only one around here who understands the power of the folded horn.

Funny thing is that I love my 360s. I didn't like the 370 I had near as much. I also had a 320 and ran it through a 408 cabinet. That cabinet was one of the larger non-house and non-van objects I have ever owned. That combination sounded phenomenal as well, and would liquify guts a quarter mile away, just like a 360 will. I never had a 301 cabinet, so maybe that's why I never bonded with the 370. The one time I really loved the way that head sounded was when I plugged it into some unknown Ampeg stack. I do not like the baked in Ampeg sound, and a 370 into that stack didn't sound like an Ampeg. It almost sounded like a warm version of a much newer, much more hi-fi amp. There's amazing nuance and detail available from those heads if you care to find it.

As far as I'm concerned, those are absolutely not too heavy. A little bulky, but with wheels, no problems. The 360s fit into the back of my van with plenty of room left over for everything else.

Another way to wreak sonic havoc is to play an upright through an Acoustic Control stack. You have to be really careful not to get nasty feedback, but that's how it goes with what's really supposed to be an unamplified instrument. Get that sorted, and it's an absloute blast. In all ways.

Dude, couldn't agree more about the 360/361! It took me a while to hunt one down in great working order....only to have UPS do a number on the power amp in the cabinet when they DROPPED it from their truck. But, oh man....how that low end is thrown so far is astonishing. The difference between standing 10 ft. in front of it, and 50 ft. is incredible. And hard to describe unless you've experienced it. Here's a pic of mine...which rarely leaves the apartment anymore (living in NYC without a car, and being 50 makes for a bad combination)
(And you're right, the 301 cabinet isn't really bad at all to move about. Especially w the two wheels and recessed handles, and only one speaker)

IMG00484-20100807-1934.jpg
 
Dude, couldn't agree more about the 360/361! It took me a while to hunt one down in great working order....only to have UPS do a number on the power amp in the cabinet when they DROPPED it from their truck. But, oh man....how that low end is thrown so far is astonishing. The difference between standing 10 ft. in front of it, and 50 ft. is incredible. And hard to describe unless you've experienced it. Here's a pic of mine...which rarely leaves the apartment anymore (living in NYC without a car, and being 50 makes for a bad combination)
(And you're right, the 301 cabinet isn't really bad at all to move about. Especially w the two wheels and recessed handles, and only one speaker)

IMG00484-20100807-1934.jpg


Yehhhhhhhsss!!!!'
 
tone knob, schmone knob

[insert obligatory TB maxim about tone being in the fingers]

2 Birds and 0 tone knobs - the Epi Vintage Pro will be having it's trip to the vet for de-knobbing soon after it comes home. Up on the table and out with the soldering iron.
I'm really grateful to not be your cat. De-knobbing doesn't sound pleasant at all.
 
Speaking of cats, that cat is less impressed than is appropriate. It explains a lot. Plus, I'm happy to see that my house isn't the only place there's shelves full of slightly tatty looking books of various kinds. It's how to sharpen the pointy head.
 
I'm really grateful to not be your cat. De-knobbing doesn't sound pleasant at all.

In the period leading up to his 'operation' he was walking more and more like a cowboy as the bump grew. When the poor wee bugger came back from the vet he had an ears back, wide-eyed shocked expression which didn't go away for days.

I had expected stitches and what not but there were two small raw spots where his testicles had been. Poor fella.

His younger sister on the otherhand went in for her much bigger operation and was bouncing around, climbing and jumping off stuff as soon as she woke up - she's known as the 'little ninja' at the vet surgery.
 
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