Thunderbird Club

[Haji]

Buffy is my girlfriends, and she is trying to sell it, complete set, and also all of angel, pm me if interested

Strings are dean Markley nickelsteel, left over from some rockstar's tour, my friend is a tech and hooked me up. I keep soaking them in DNA and they still have some life left. .050-.110 set but with .115 instead of .110.

They are quite "scoopy", works good for SOAD, but the next strings I buy will probably be more SIT power steels in the same .050-.115 custom set from BSO, I won one from SIT on Facebook and after my initial dislike (hard to mount on the skinny tuning posts, and brittle tone before they break in), I found they were the perfect strings for my goth, and considering the buzz issue I'm having with the classic pro, the extra stiffness of the power steel might be the fix.

I just put on a set of Power Steels on my Charvel about a week ago that i got the same way: SIT gave 'em to me. They're good n'clanky, which I kinda like, but theyre more flexy than the Dunlop Heavy Core I usually use. I like the stiffer feel of the Heavy Core a little better.

 

[kat888]

It's gone I guess.

No loss.

 

[Dr_Feelgoood212]

I didn't mean to expose this sort of crap.
Not like there isn't enough of it on TB.
But it pissed me off, was my form of venting by sending you guys there.
I feel bad for doing so.

Don't worry about it, like @BklynKen said I didn't need to go. But I did, and I realized the reason I'm reclusive and how true my sig actually is. I was just venting too. Dont worry about it.

 

[Gluvhand]

I guess I haven't been around long enough but are you folks really that sensitive to what's said about T-Birds?

 

[MCF]

Not. I read through it. Full marks for perseverance to a couple of hardy people , but ...........

Typical BS. I almost took the bait, but my time is more valuable. The GP has no clue.

 

[ubernator]

I just put on a set of Power Steels on my Charvel about a week ago that i got the same way: SIT gave 'em to me. They're good n'clanky, which I kinda like, but theyre more flexy than the Dunlop Heavy Core I usually use. I like the stiffer feel of the Heavy Core a little better.

Give them some time, they lose that sandpaper feel and they start to sound more full and still keep some snap. Then they stay that way for a while. I put mine in the DNA recently for the first time, and I probably didn't need to since they still sounded good. But I like a bright snap. Will report on how they are after a DNA soak.

 

[kat888]

I guess I haven't been around long enough but are you folks really that sensitive to what's said about T-Birds?

Couldn't give a sh1take* mushroom whether they like TBirds or not. My bones of contention are 1. the rampant hypocrisy and 2. the inability to accept diversity ... what else do they police? 3. complete lack of humour.

* experiment returned the expected result. priceless.

 

[JIO]

Most tb 'club' threads are wastelands - this one is an oasis.

 

[Gluvhand]

Couldn't give a sh1take* mushroom whether they like TBirds or not. My bones of contention are 1. the rampant hypocrisy and 2. the inability to accept diversity ... what else do they police? 3. complete lack of humour.

* experiment returned the expected result. priceless.

Ok.

 

[veebass]

It's gone I guess.

I guess I haven't been around long enough but are you folks really that sensitive to what's said about T-Birds?

I wouldn't say sensitive.
Like @kat888 said , I couldn't care less what they say about Gibson basses in general, or TBirds specifically- I know what they are and what they are not. I have owned and gigged quite a range of Gibsons (and Fenders, Rics, G&L for that matter). I don't need some guy who played one once to tell me what they are all like. Someone who knows what they are talking about can talk to me all day long about them, similarly someone who genuinely wants to find out.
I find the group think behind some of the contribution in those threads (they come up every few weeks) annoying and in some circumstances sad.
Mostly, it is just tiresome.

 

[Nocturnal]

Except only to the early works of Leo.

His best work (G&L) doesn't seem nearly as popular for whatever reason.

I never understood that either. Wouldn't it seem like he took everything he learned from 7ender and MM and made better creation? I have really liked the G&L's I have tried.

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Here are the pics of the (hopefully finish) cracks coming from the nut on my beater classic pro. The nut is totally held down by the strings only (I'm not home and don't have any glue). When the nut was off I tried to see if I could find a crack in the wood, I could not tell, not the greatest light, and no optics at my disposal for a closer look.

I'm hoping the cracks are from the nut itself stressing the finish. I will eventually glue it back down.

I have to admit part of me is worried the cracks are more related to how it was treated by the evidence on the headstock, but logic tells me the loose nut might have just stressed the finish.

What do you all think?

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Other things, I can't quite get enough relief for buzz free .115 drop C, but I just did the adjustment, perhaps in a day or 2 it will settle in. In that regard the 2006 white Korean bolt on might have been the better choice since I don't have that problem with my 2006 goth. I can live with a little buzz to have the neck through, and that other guy is a sheister, still running the ad as a classic pro for $380 even after I called him out and he went down to $220. I think I ended up with the right bass at the right price from the right seller, even if it has been through some abuse. Call it a "rescue" rather than a minty misrepresentation. If I had the funds I would throw another $200 down and have both, but I don't and won't for a while.

And where can I get a silver top top hat "tone" knob on the super cheap or free? View attachment 1189454

IIRC there have been a few people here that mentioned having stress cracks in the paint around the nut on the Epi Classic. I have also seen several listed on Ebay with the same issue. Its probably just cracks in the paint. You see those cracks semi-regularly on neck pockets on plenty of bolt-necked basses.

 

[ProgressiveDoom]

Just post with alacrity, most the clowns in that thread couldn't find their own @$$^%&*( with both hands - much less actually know something about Gibson basses.

We got the fn' Queen!!!!! Aint nobody else got that!

 

[ubernator]

I never understood that either. Wouldn't it seem like he took everything he learned from 7ender and MM and made better creation? I have really liked the G&L's I have tried.



IIRC there have been a few people here that mentioned having stress cracks in the paint around the nut on the Epi Classic. I have also seen several listed on Ebay with the same issue. Its probably just cracks in the paint. You see those cracks semi-regularly on neck pockets on plenty of bolt-necked basses.

Yep, it is similar to the ubiquitous neck pocket crack.

The ibanez rg120 guitar from the bookstore has one, and so does my $1500+ music man petrucci.

It is not as common to see them radiating from the nut, and the whole Gibson headstock issue thing had me worried. Seems solid so far. Probably just in the finish.

I also noticed there is a defined nut slot on the current classic pro, different than this 2013 model, which has the nut just sitting on the headstock rather than in a channel. I can see where that design change eliminated this issue.

Do we know for sure the classic is going to be replaced by the vintage? Or is that just conjecture? I can see a market for both basses, the classic is basically the same as the modern Gibsons, and I could see a market for both.

 

[ProgressiveDoom]

Having not read that thread, I'm pretty sure time spent in this club will be a much more sensible thing to do...

Dude I was irritated by the time I reached mid page 1. Freaks!.

 

[theFixer]

I particularly like the not too rare threads where some aberrant individual actually breaks ranks with the herd and complains about a problem with a new Fender bass and they all pile in. There was one last week, where the poor guy got a really hard time and had to actually prove the bass was new (not second hand) before they would believe him. He had to explain why he wasn't at the herds immediate beck and call when they demanded more details about the alleged issues with HIS bass and the purchase process. Lame excuse- he had to sleep.
Contrast that with the broad, baseless statements we read at the mere mention of the G word in relation to basses.

Yes I did enjoy the four tones bass comments. Always wondered what the knobs on my bass, amp and pedals were for. Hmm- I wonder about the Beatles or Rolling Stones. Also lots more recorded Gibson basses in popular music than people realise.

Kinda goes along with what I said right after my rebirth as a Gibsonite. The world of Gibson bass isn't part of "Bass World"... it's parallel to it. Most people's first exposure to the bass, is in the form of a P, a J, or something from that "world". It takes a certain kind of person to step out of the shadow, or the security, of that which is comfortable & familiar. It's natural to fear and resist change. If you recall... my first encounter with a Thunderbird, ended with my thinking, "Well that sucked... I guess that ain't gonna work" after 15 seconds of sitting down with something that didn't feel like every other bass I'd ever picked up. It was only after talking with you guys & giving it a second shot, that I finally "got it". How many people out there will never give it that second shot? Unfortunately... there's a plague sweeping over the world. This "disease" apparently strips the infected individual of their ability to control their sense of pride or ego. They develop an unnatural craving for a sense of superiority, which can only come from belittling others. Who better to belittle, than people who don't see eye to eye with you (besides... people who think like you, can be your allies and create the illusion of strength). Common decency and love for one's brothers & sisters, slides off the bottom of the priority list, as they become more and more self absorbed. They lose their ability to admit when they're wrong, accept responsibility for their actions, or apologize for anything... and with the advent of the internet... they don't have to.
What happens when an individual with this affliction, is given the opportunity to voice their opinion of something that is foreign or unfamiliar to them? It ain't pretty... and it'll only get worse if no cure is found.

 

[veebass]

If you recall... my first encounter with a Thunderbird, ended with my thinking, "Well that sucked... I guess that ain't gonna work" after 15 seconds of sitting down with something that didn't feel like every other bass I'd ever picked up.

You make an interesting point about early experiences. Fenders were not common in Oz in the 70s. The first real Fender Bass I actually played was a 73 Humbucker Telecaster Bass that a close mate bought new. I had a fair bit to do with that bass in my formative years and I always loved the sound of it and as it turned out I bought that same bass years later after it had quite a few adventures. I played the Ibanez V in my Avatar in bands for years in my 20s. I do remember being mightily impressed after playing a Gibson Ripper in one of the big music stores in Sydney. I saved for it but it sold before I got the $ together (a "local rock" star- Ted Mulry- bought it to add to his Gibson EB 0). Another matebought a new P Bass in about 1977. I recall thinking , 'This sounds dreadful". When I eventually experienced Jazz Basses I thought- "What was all the fuss about?" My view of P Basses has changed a bit but I still find Jazzes disappointing generally.
I think I preferred humbuckers from very early on.

 

[kat888]

@veebass - in a way not unsimilar to my experience. In NZ there were a LOT of copies around in the 80s, apart from Ibanez, Yamaha etc. I remember trying out a couple of Fender Ps in Dorkland music shops on visits but the necks seemed massive to me and they only had one pickup. At the time I would only consider 2 pup basses. Also I've never found the split humbucker aesthetically appealing (amusing as apparently the P affcionados thing soapbar style pickups are hideous). I had a J fretless for a while ... Meh! These days I prefer the sound of a humbucker.

 

[Gaolee]

Fvckwit -- for when 'wanker', 'tosser', 'bellend' and 'knob' won't do.

It was cold yesterday, and forecast cold for next week, but today it's already 20C with a forecast maximum of 26C -- might have to break out the cocktail umbrellas.

Your idea of cold and my idea of cold might be a little different. Show is over. There were people taking pictures and video and stuff. Dunno if I'll ever see any of that. I'm beat. See y'all tomorrow sometime.

 

[Gaolee]

My view of P Bass has changed a bit but I still find Jazzes disappointing generally.

I love the sound of a P for certain things. The sound of a J sucks. That's all. I just flat don't like 'em. If you have two pickups, they need to be 'buckers.

 

[veebass]

I love the sound of a P for certain things. The sound of a J sucks. That's all. I just flat don't like 'em. If you have two pickups, they need to be 'buckers.

Yep, if we had two fulltime guitarists or if one of them used a Les Paul I would probably use a P bass more with the current band. I have the series/ parallel mod on one of my Jazzes and I find it better with the pickups in series. Just my taste.